Big Boobs- why do people complain?
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Rachel317 said:
Wait let me get this straight. You are against women to be objectified on sexual level to men in games.
While having Bayonetta as your role model...
I'm sorry but something in there just does not compute.
(Not that I think that objectifying women in games as sexual symbol is good. I just find your choice of role model and your stance on this matter a tad conflicting)
EDIT: Role MODEL not role MOTHER. Damnit what's wrong with me today.
Can I hug the twins goodbye?--- http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=146Sarahcidal said:
OT: I don't mind them as long as they didn't substract from the character a.k.a making them the priority trait instead of her development as a character and person. With that said, I don't like em too big.
How about this: most video games are designed by men for men. This means most mainstream/popular titles have an average of one female character (see: Bulletstorm). And if that one character has ginormous breasts... For a female gamer it makes it even more clear that this game was not made for them.
re #3: it is not the same treatment, because in real life, men and women are not treated equally. Thus, even if men in video games are basically walking talking cabinets (see again: Bulletstorm), as a man you're far less likely to have an uncomfortable moment of "these standards are expected from me in real life as well, and I am confronted with this on a daily basis". As a woman? You are confronted with this ideal on a daily basis, every day of your life, for the rest of your life. Seeing it reflected in video games, something that is supposed to be a relaxing and fun pastime is depressing.
re #3: it is not the same treatment, because in real life, men and women are not treated equally. Thus, even if men in video games are basically walking talking cabinets (see again: Bulletstorm), as a man you're far less likely to have an uncomfortable moment of "these standards are expected from me in real life as well, and I am confronted with this on a daily basis". As a woman? You are confronted with this ideal on a daily basis, every day of your life, for the rest of your life. Seeing it reflected in video games, something that is supposed to be a relaxing and fun pastime is depressing.
That makes perfect sense, because Bayonetta is always in control of her sexuality. SHE flirts with the camera; the camera isn't zooming in on her ass/boobs when she's having a conversation (for example), without her being aware of it. Basically, she isn't Aya Brea in the latest Squeenix debacle.CommanderKirov said:
It just annoys me how stupid the measurements are.
Massive tits, a teeny waist and huge hips? You won't find many girls like that.
I'd be more insulted if I were a guy, they think I need to see big titties to buy their game? I'm not that shallow >_>
Massive tits, a teeny waist and huge hips? You won't find many girls like that.
I'd be more insulted if I were a guy, they think I need to see big titties to buy their game? I'm not that shallow >_>
Pretty sure no one would complain about big bosoms if they were part of an otherwise well characterized and nuanced character. Except perhaps weird people who have a problem with sexuality in general or something.
When all you have to a character is the big boobs though, that kind of gets old really fast.
When all you have to a character is the big boobs though, that kind of gets old really fast.
In fairness you could of proably picked better characters than those. Talim and Amy are both supposed to be about 14 and 15. I think Talim might be a bit older in SCIV but is definitely 15 in SCII.RelexCryo said:
OT: Anyway I suppose my only real problem with them are things like Jiggle physics and that thing they had in the PS3 Ninja Gaiden. That was a bit too far other than thing like that(which I supposed to be honest are just for a laugh) I don't mind big boobs. When people end up playing games for boobs and they end just being fan service which to be honest Ivy's bondage outfit really is it gets annoying.
To the people bringing up the SC characters Yes Amy's are big for a 14 year old and Talim's for 15 but I don't think Tira's boobs or Xianghua's are getting bigger since they are 17 and 20 so their boobs are on the grand scale of things small and medium sized.
And they should.... If anything most of the men are treated worse because people want to defiantly beautify the women so that it catches the eyeRelexCryo said:
Great post my friend
Because most games these days strive towards realism, or at least to be taken seriously. Giant boobs just take me out of the experience. I haven't played too many examples of these types of games (thank GOD), but I recently played the Dragon Age 2 demo, and I just felt I was taken out of the experience by all of those titties around me. Even after the "giant tits" part had passed. I was supposed to feel like I'm beginning an epic odysseu but I just sat on my computer, listening to average fantasy dialogue delivered by uncanny valley residents.
Putting big boobs into games is the easiest way to make them not taken seriously.
Putting big boobs into games is the easiest way to make them not taken seriously.
it's largely unnecessary, and boob physics are just..just.../sighs.
Yeah..i won't even touch that. But Boob physics are insulting and exceedingly stupid. So boob physics combined with low-cut tops and gigantic boobs aren't how women want to be portrayed in games. We'd rather have a more accurate portrayal (see also: leliana)
Yeah..i won't even touch that. But Boob physics are insulting and exceedingly stupid. So boob physics combined with low-cut tops and gigantic boobs aren't how women want to be portrayed in games. We'd rather have a more accurate portrayal (see also: leliana)
Not everyone finds it attractive, in fact as straight male I find characters like Ivy and Isabela kind of repulsive
And yes its unrealistic, very few women have norks that size, you make some vague arguement regarding intelligence that holds no analog at all- women are not objectified on their intelligence.
Plus most of the time its for little more then base titiliation on the most crude level, appealing to the lowest commen denominator- that is to say an immature treatment of sexuality.
And yes its unrealistic, very few women have norks that size, you make some vague arguement regarding intelligence that holds no analog at all- women are not objectified on their intelligence.
Plus most of the time its for little more then base titiliation on the most crude level, appealing to the lowest commen denominator- that is to say an immature treatment of sexuality.
I live in Australia, in which it is illegal to even look at breasts under C size, so I guess our various game committees would be in total support of this phenomenon.
I would like the industry to get over the whole sex thing, but I don't really see it happening, so I find it easier to just grin and bear the existence of Mr. Shirtless Growly Musclearms and Mrs. Chesty Bikini-Clad McBreasterson
I would like the industry to get over the whole sex thing, but I don't really see it happening, so I find it easier to just grin and bear the existence of Mr. Shirtless Growly Musclearms and Mrs. Chesty Bikini-Clad McBreasterson
Because when the developers put needless big boobs on a character, I feel insulted to be the target audience.
Right there with:
You're mom will hate it.
It has like totally much blood!
It's immature and I'm waaay passed the age where I give a damn about the size of a girls chest.
Right there with:
You're mom will hate it.
It has like totally much blood!
It's immature and I'm waaay passed the age where I give a damn about the size of a girls chest.
No it does not, It does not matter if the female character is dominative over her sexuality or submissive. She still is objectified and reduced to fetish doll by a majority of puberty teens.kogane said:
The way she is acting does not change how she looks and what was she designed towards.
I would dare say, that being against big boobs in games is actually hateful. What, so busty women can't shoot a gun or enter a combat contest or save the world? What's wrong with having a big chest? Women with huge breasts also have feelings, and they can do anything a flat-chested woman can do. Except maybe press their nose up against a wall.
But the point is, while big boobs is a gaming stereotype, the alternative - only depicting women with small or average boobs - is much worse, because such a policy would be discrimination against busty babes.
But the point is, while big boobs is a gaming stereotype, the alternative - only depicting women with small or average boobs - is much worse, because such a policy would be discrimination against busty babes.
According to undergarment manufacturers in the US, the average American woman is a 36C, up from the previous average of 34B only thanks to implants and widespread obesity. By contrast, the average female character in video games is dealing with something easily inside the D range and the worst offenders are easily in the triple-D if to F range (Soul Caliber's Ivy is easily a DDD for example).
My problem is two fold. First, it is unrealistic to the point that I'm often left to question things I shouldn't have to question, such as "how does someone built like that stand up straight" and, "good god, how uncomfortable is that breastplate considering the size of said breasts". The second is that I personally do not care for absurdly large breasts.
My problem is two fold. First, it is unrealistic to the point that I'm often left to question things I shouldn't have to question, such as "how does someone built like that stand up straight" and, "good god, how uncomfortable is that breastplate considering the size of said breasts". The second is that I personally do not care for absurdly large breasts.