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That'd be nice but by the lore of the setting it isn't true. The Alliance only uses one command structure:ecoho said:
The Alliance uses a modified version of the ranking system that has been used for hundreds of years. Soldiers are classified into rank-and-file enlisted personal, experienced non-commissioned officers (NCOs), and specially trained officers.
The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are. This unity of command is imposed by the futility of fighting without control of orbit; without the navy, any army is pointless. The marines, as a matter of pride, maintain some of their traditional rank titles; for example, marines have Privates and Corporals instead of Servicemen.
In ascending order of responsibility, the ranks of the Alliance are:
ENLISTED
Serviceman 3rd Class/Private 2nd Class
Serviceman 2nd Class/Private 1st Class
Serviceman 1st Class/Corporal
NCOs
Service Chief
Gunnery Chief
Operations Chief
OFFICERS
2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Staff Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Staff Commander
Captain/Major
Rear Admiral/General
Admiral
Fleet Admiral
The divide between naval personnel and ground forces ("marines") is small. Ground units are a specialized branch of the fleet, just as fighter squadrons are. This unity of command is imposed by the futility of fighting without control of orbit; without the navy, any army is pointless. The marines, as a matter of pride, maintain some of their traditional rank titles; for example, marines have Privates and Corporals instead of Servicemen.
In ascending order of responsibility, the ranks of the Alliance are:
ENLISTED
Serviceman 3rd Class/Private 2nd Class
Serviceman 2nd Class/Private 1st Class
Serviceman 1st Class/Corporal
NCOs
Service Chief
Gunnery Chief
Operations Chief
OFFICERS
2nd Lieutenant
1st Lieutenant
Staff Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Staff Commander
Captain/Major
Rear Admiral/General
Admiral
Fleet Admiral
But it may have been what the writers were thinking when they put it all together
The first I think I can answer, in spoiler box form:RedDeadFred said:
Jack needed the vault hunter to get the power core from Wilhelm so as to make it seem legit, thus using it to power down Sanctuary's shields and shell the fuck out of it.
After Angel's death, he keeps you in the system because he wants to be the one to kill you, in vengeance.
As for the time between Sanctuary and angel's death, not sure if you noticed, but Jack is a arrogant as all hell bastard! The asshole thinks himself a freaking hero because of all the shit he does. You and your multiple deaths were probably amusing to watch for him, plus when ever you die, Hyperion gets money from you to respawn. Jack probably thought that as hilarious...
That Jack being Arrogant also explains why he didnt have himself in the NewU system, he didnt think he could die.
Though I should mention, we dont know exactly if Jack is actually dead. He could just be hiding in his massive fortress, just waiting for the opportunity to fuck you up.
After Angel's death, he keeps you in the system because he wants to be the one to kill you, in vengeance.
As for the time between Sanctuary and angel's death, not sure if you noticed, but Jack is a arrogant as all hell bastard! The asshole thinks himself a freaking hero because of all the shit he does. You and your multiple deaths were probably amusing to watch for him, plus when ever you die, Hyperion gets money from you to respawn. Jack probably thought that as hilarious...
That Jack being Arrogant also explains why he didnt have himself in the NewU system, he didnt think he could die.
Though I should mention, we dont know exactly if Jack is actually dead. He could just be hiding in his massive fortress, just waiting for the opportunity to fuck you up.
My be just guesswork, but it sorta makes sense...
Maybe it's not necessarily a plot hole, but I am led to believe that the romances in Dragon's Dogma take place apart from the main game.
Aelinore is the Duke's wife. You go into her room, the duke arrives and starts choking her. You pop out of hiding and the Duke has you thrown into the dungeon and lashed to bits. Aelinore frees you and she's sent to the Blighted Manse. Here's the problem: The Duke doesn't even say anything about you ever meeting with Aelinore and he even gives you gifts and money just before he sends you to the Greatwall! You'd think that his wife having an affair with you is something that he wouldn't so easily forget, but nooo. It's never once mentioned anywhere.
Perhaps, but I think that the experiments were not made aware to the government since they were a private company.EHKOS said:
Also to be nit-picky the terminals and Pip-boy are made by Robco and not Vault-Tec! >.<
I like the Fallout lore and while 3 was a good reboot it made many plot holes and took the lore and screwed it all up.
I did question this at first, on my second play through I noticed how they knew his name.wolf thing said:
When The Didact comes out of his Cryptum, all of The Covenenant reverently say "Didact" while bowing down.
I'm not making excuses for poor story telling here, but reading the books gives much more insight into the Didact's motives.
Shepard is there because she's on lock down pending a court marshal before the admiralty board.Devoneaux said:
As to why is it in a high rise building? Why not? I suspect that entire building is the Alliance Central Command. Common Sci-Fi Future Earth logic is that all building end up being skyscrapers or arcologies so it doesn't surprise me for the Military to have a huge 100 story complex rather than a spread out fenced off area.
And a question back When is what eluded to?
If I am, I am. It's not a huge concern to me either way. I'm just trying to help clarify.
I'll take your word for that because its been a while since I played the opening while sober. I seem to recall a bunch of jumping to other buildings, especially when you first fight the husks which is where you fire meet the kid, but I may be mistaken.
Action series logic, no problems for me there. Though it should be noted that Shepard's uniform is a bit blood covered by the ending of the Earth sequence.
Your right, but stories don't stand to nitpicks and do require a certain level of "go with it" before it could be considered bad. Example: Dark Knight Rises: Batman shows up on the same ice at the same time as Commisioner Gordan and company are being forced to walk it. How'd he know they were there, how'd he get on the ice unseen in 300lbs of body armor with breaking it?
Just go with it, it doesn't destroy the flow it only pushes forward the narrative.
Or to go back to the kid in the vents. The story goes "he ended up in the building where the kid was hiding" You can't say "Well I think he ended up on another building, because the story shows us that's not true.
EDIT: Oh and I wanted to say no matter how we leave this, I truly enjoyed talking about this with you. As a regular on the BSN It's hard to talk about anything in Mass Effect 3 without a half dozen points going "Space Magic" or "Artistic Integrity" or "rEApers did it" or "Yaw Dawg" any other stupid meme that have taken over polite and interesting discussions there.
Lets put it this way. Smudboy was banned from BSN for being a right bastard to anyone who disagreed with anything he said.Devoneaux said:
The end of Half-life 2. The Vortigaunts show up and Deus ex machina Gordon and Alyx by teleporting them away from the explosion. Ok lets assume they have this power. Why do I spend all my time traveling from one place to the next when I have a enslaved race of aliens who worship me as their savior, available to transport me anywhere in the world?
That... is a good question. Especially since Alyx almost gets killed because of on foot travel and she has some really important info on her memory stick.invadergir said:
Now for my contribution. During the events of Portal the run around in the Aperture Science facilities, we see them as average size with GLaDOS controlling the tests to an extent and the facilities themselves seem to be pretty normal too and at the end we see GLaDOS on the ground, outside of the Aperture Science facilities.
In Portal 2, we find her whole inside the now giant Aperture Science facilities where she has full super duper control over the geometry of the whole facility, rebuilding entire testing areas with both speed and resources never hinted about in the old Portal.
I gotta say, you have to love Valve's storytelling techniques, but the story itself might not be of Faberge quality.
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Its rather apparent that the man in black and the vorts are kinda working for cross purposes aside from the fact they both view Gordon Freeman as valuable. So maybe he is blocking their ability to do that.The Headcrab Farmer said:
Assassin's Creed 3
Why doesn't Desmond just go through Haythem's memories? Instead of spending 15 hours of going "WHERE IS CHARLES LEE" and not learning anything, you could have gained all the information needed by just going through Haythem's memories. Not to mention direct access to Templar secrets and what not.
EDIT: You know what? Another thing.
They always bring up how you "have" to go through the memories the animus dictates.
Why do Haythem's memories only consist of about one or two missions? Not to mention we skip the entirety of his training, unlike every other person. Except Altair I guess, but that is explained by Clay already unlocking some of Altair's memories.
EDIT: Nevermind again. Clay was an ancestor of Ezio, not Altair.
Plotholes abound, I guess.
Why doesn't Desmond just go through Haythem's memories? Instead of spending 15 hours of going "WHERE IS CHARLES LEE" and not learning anything, you could have gained all the information needed by just going through Haythem's memories. Not to mention direct access to Templar secrets and what not.
EDIT: You know what? Another thing.
They always bring up how you "have" to go through the memories the animus dictates.
Why do Haythem's memories only consist of about one or two missions? Not to mention we skip the entirety of his training, unlike every other person. Except Altair I guess, but that is explained by Clay already unlocking some of Altair's memories.
EDIT: Nevermind again. Clay was an ancestor of Ezio, not Altair.
Plotholes abound, I guess.
I always figured it was due to Shepard's Spectre seniority. Kaiden may be the higher rank in the Human military, but Shepard was a higher Spectre rank, and as Spectre rank trumps Alliance rank, Shepard was in command.DeimosMasque said:
The problem is that you interpret each group as good or bad, the mages are an oppressed minority, which you would naturally feel sympathy for, while the Templars are an authoritarian military arm of a church, which you would naturally not like very much, however each group has it's good and bad, the mages are mostly down to earth people who don't want trouble, then there are the Blood Mages who take control of peoples' minds and consort with demons. Then you have the Templars, the majority of whom are zealous oppressors of those born differently, then there are the ones who feel sorry for the mages and try to help them escape the Circle.Rawne1980 said:
And yeah Meredith did go all crazy, but then there's Orsino, who opposes the Templars, and while you're first thought may be "And rightfully so" but you might forget that half the mages you encounter are dangerous Blood Mages who try to kill you, Orsino also seems to forget this, and that the Circle does have a practical purpose, although it's been taken too far.
I think it is wonderfully well written, neither side is correct because they demand the extreme, the major failing of the game in my mind is that they exclude any grey area, both in the story and the character interactions, you're forced to either side totally with the mages or Templars, and you're teammates are the exact same, if you helped an elderly mage across the street Fenris would flip his shit, and it you even smiled at a Templar Anders would do the same.
I've said before, Tamriel is a giant inside out prison, self contained areas of civility surrounded by freely roaming criminals and magical beasts.Jimmy T. Malice said:
It was so they could sell you $15 DLC that fixed that. It has forever tainted my opinion of Bethesda, as that's the worst kind of DLC. Worse than horse armor. I shouldn't have to pay an extra $15 to fix the mistake of the developer.Legion said:
More so than that, in MW3 how does Russia have enough military forces to invade America, which has the most superior military in the world, while simultaneously invading every capital city in Europe, after American Special Forces decimated their Navy, and still send an army after Soap, Yuri, and Captain Price?deadman91 said:
Now I've had this discussion before, and the conclusion that I came to is that a lot of people seriously underestimate Russia's ability to mobilize and field large armies. Hell, if you look at it historically for most of the Cold War Russia could field more divisions (who were better trained and drilled than are often given credit for - they learned their lessons the hard way in WW2) than the entire of NATO. Really the thing that kept them in check was the American superiority in nuclear weapons rather than American superiority in conventional weapons (and the fact that Russia always believed the US'd be willing to sacrifice Western Europe if it came to a nuclear exchange). Given that in the MW alt-universe Russia is coming out of a civil war (that seemed to include much of Eastern Europe and the Caucusus) and likely already had a lot of men mobilized - not to mention don't need a navy to invade overland - and it's not an inconceivable notion. I think that's why they're so often still used as an enemy in video games, Russia can still be a viable, realistic threat.LarenzoAOG said: