I'm currently trying to track the exacts down, but not having access to a Law Library makes things difficultERaptor said:Again, i did not say he deserved it. Im saying it's his own damn fault. If the people you drive around with are pulling such stunts, what do you expect? It's actually amazing that there didnt happen anything beforehand.Ultratwinkie said:He didn't. The guys that fought are in court today. The paralyzed guy did nothing.ERaptor said:I'd rather say he provoked it. If you play around with fire, you might get burned. And if you drive a bike like a retard you might cause an accident. Even if he himself didnt do aynthing (which i highly doubt), he hung around with those idiots, and look at the moves they were pulling even before going apesh*t on the SUV. I wont say he deserves to get crippled, but i sure as hell wont feel sorry for him either. Karma's a bit*h.ninjaRiv said:Holy shit... people are saying that it's GOOD a guy will never be able to walk again? Sure, he behaved like a dick... But it's a grand thing he's NEVER GOING TO WALK AGAIN. What? Punish him for being an ass, yeah. Put him behind bars, whatever. But he will never walk again. HE WILL NEVER WALK AGAIN. I do not understand how that is something to be celebrated.
Let's not forget that the details are shaky as fuck. I couldn't see any SUV attacking until the end of the video. Also, this was a very large crowd, not all of them were total dicks, I am assuming. this was a thing that went to far. Some asshole's idea of a joke. And then one asshole got run over and crippled for life. I hate to repeat myself but I think an asshole being crippled for life is a fuck sight worse than a guy being scared.
Man... Celebrating a guy getting crippled. If it turns out he's a murdering rapist, sure. Maybe. But... As far as we know, this is some guy who acts like a dick. Don't celebrate that.
"hanging around with idiots" can be another line of logic you can apply to anyone. None of it defensible.
"Oh, he got shot in the face by a stray bullet? Its his fault because he shouldn't have been there."
I can argue the father was a horrible parent that he hung around bikers and should have his parental rights revoked and have his kids put into a better foster home that doesn't hang around bikers.
The worse the crippled guy ever did was have traffic violations on his record. If traffic violations warrant paralyzation, then why don't thieves get their hands cut off and domestic abusers get their balls cut off? And anyone who doesn't pay taxes automatically gets the death penalty?
Oh that's right, because that is some saudi arabia level "justice" that is complete overkill.
To pick up your bullet example, no if you are going on in your daily life and get shot by a stray bullet, its not your fault. But if you hang around with people waving guns like its a game, you should've seen it coming.
Skip to about 6:25 for the short form. Basically says that if you are willingly part of a malicious or violent group or mob, every member of that group shares equally in culpability for whatever may happen. If the person your group is encroaching upon decides to fire a gun at someone in the front of your group, misses the target and ends up striking somebody at the rear of the group then that is legally sound. That person willing assumed the risks and responsibilities of being a part of that group and waived any special protections when they did so.
Now this case isn't as clear cut and perfect, but it certainly fits the mold. The bikers clearly demonstrated an extreme capacity for violence and disregard for the safety of others. A motor vehicle can be defined as a lethal weapon within U.S. law and understanding the dangerous situation he was presented with, the driver of the SUV used his available resources to make an opening and extricate himself the best he could from that situation. It doesn't matter if you weren't the one assaulting the man, you share the responsibility and risks of the group. If the mob had pulled the man from the vehicle and beat him so viciously that he later died from his wounds in the hospital, almost every member of that mob would have been just about as legally responsible for the man's death as those who actually dealt the fatal blows.
Take all of this in stride of course as I am most certainly not a certified legal professional.