Bioware blocks user from playing his store-bought copy of DA2, for bad-mouthing EA?

Dansrage

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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/6459941/1#6460241

Just stumbled upon this little gem and wondered what you fine gentlemen thought about it?
 

Eri

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Well if you sucker-punch a heavy weight boxer, you shouldn't be surprised when he turns around and clocks you. If you get sanctioned on steam, the sane thing happens, you're locked out of your games. If he's that unhappy with them, fuck if I know why he bought it.
 

0mn1p0t3ntg6y

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Well theat's just awful. Why should they prevent him from getting what he deserves from what he bought with legalcurrency because they are unhappy with his opinion of them. He can say what he likes and they can't do anything.
 

Dansrage

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Eri said:
0mn1p0t3ntg6y said:
He can say what he likes and they can't do anything.
I'm pretty sure they already proved you wrong.
But the question is, do they have the RIGHT to do anything about it? It wasn't even real criticism, it was more of a joke than anything.
I quote:
"Have you sold your souls to the EA devil?"

That isn't even an opinion worth censoring if you ask me, it's like shooting someone for saying you have a silly hat.
 

Not-here-anymore

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Pretty sure that's theft on Bioware/EA's part?

Just because they currently dislike that user doesn't give them the right to remove his ability to play games on that account - that prevents him from accessing save files and DLC in previous Bioware games too. (obviously a new account could be made for DA2)

How well does playing offline work? Would that let him access his (non-DA2) games again?
 

Fusionxl

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Doesn't practically every EULA these days remove all rights from the user to complain about anything?
"It's our game. I know you paid 60 green for it, but it's still ours. Just FYI"
 

Lunar Templar

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they shouldn't be allowed to do that

i don't like Nexon much, and have said so ON THEY'RE forums, as have others, an my account isn't banned or suspended

but then, this is EA, pissing people off seems they're hobbie
 

Katana314

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There's a reply from the moderator at the bottom of the page now. I'm not sure what to make of it; it seems like their EULA does sort of have mention about that sort of thing, but if that really is the case, and it prevents access to a single-player game, then they really need to consider changing that.
 

NotSoNimble

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One thing I've learned in life is that people being punished are almost never honest when talking about it during or after they 'pay the piper'.

I have never heard of a forum suspension having any other repercussion other than use on a forum tho.

EDIT: The MOD says:

""Please review the EA Community Terms of Service, particularly sections #9 and #11. There are two levels of enforcement here:

1. BioWare community bans are forum-only and can be for as little as 24 hours. These bans should have no effect on your game, only your ability to use all the features of this website/community. these bans are handed out by BioWare Moderators as the result of our travels around the forum and/or issues reported by fellow community members.

2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC.

Because the BioWare community now operates under the same umbrella as all EA Communities, community members here have all explicitly agreed to abide by and be governed by both sets of rules. Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.

If there are further questions or concerns, please send them to me via private message. Thank you.

End of line.""

Guess that answers that. It's what you get for not reading the rules you agree to.
 

lacktheknack

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Apparently, it was done by a machine because a bunch of people clicked the "report" button.
 

tippy2k2

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Big game companies are not stupid and don't just ban you because of things like that. Most likely, he's one of those kids who has done something REALLY stupid and got hit for it.

We're seeing one side, the side of the guy who can make whatever he wants up and says that EA banned him for it...
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Looking at the ToS, they CAN do that. It doesn't make it right, though.

From a mod/admin: "Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow."

Yeah, Bioware has lost all of the respect I once had for them.
 
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Ok that's just wrong. Suspend him on the forums, fine, good, that's perfectly appropriate. But preventing him from activating his game that he BOUGHT?

That's just not right.
 

ZippyDSMlee

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Why do they feel the need to tie a your game account with your forum account for bans,ect. That seems....quit silly if you ask me.
 

mireko

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Please review the EA Community Terms of Service, particularly sections #9 and #11. There are two levels of enforcement here:

1. BioWare community bans are forum-only and can be for as little as 24 hours. These bans should have no effect on your game, only your ability to use all the features of this website/community. these bans are handed out by BioWare Moderators as the result of our travels around the forum and/or issues reported by fellow community members.

2. EA Community bans come down from a different department and are the result of someone hitting the REPORT POST button. These bans can affect access to your game and/or DLC.

Because the BioWare community now operates under the same umbrella as all EA Communities, community members here have all explicitly agreed to abide by and be governed by both sets of rules. Consider it an added incentive to follow the rules you say you're going to follow.

If there are further questions or concerns, please send them to me via private message. Thank you.

End of line.

I have no idea who to blame at this point.

We need a little more context, but it seems that the user got themselves suspended from EA's side as opposed to being suspended by BioWare mods. It's an unnecessarily harsh punishment, but it could be an unintended side-effect of the suspension. Of course, since we're talking about EA they could just be fucking with him for fun. Their ToS does come with a laundry list of reasons to wreck your shit, after all:

11. Rules of Conduct

You may violate the Terms of Service if, as determined by EA in its sole discretion, you:

- Post, transmit, promote, or distribute Content that is illegal.
- Harass, threaten, embarrass, or do anything else to another player that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages or making personal attacks or statements about race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc.
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- Use abusive, offensive, or defamatory screen names and/or personas.
- Disrupt the flow of chat in chat rooms with vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, "spamming" or flooding [posting repetitive text].
- Impersonate another person (including celebrities), indicate falsely that you are an EA employee or a representative of EA, or attempt to mislead users by indicating that you represent EA or any of EA's partners or affiliates.
- Attempt to get a password, account information, or other private information from anyone else on EA Services.
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ImprovizoR

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What they did is illegal. It's that simple. It's his opinion and his right to free speech.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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J03bot said:
Pretty sure that's theft on Bioware/EA's part?

Just because they currently dislike that user doesn't give them the right to remove his ability to play games on that account - that prevents him from accessing save files and DLC in previous Bioware games too. (obviously a new account could be made for DA2)

How well does playing offline work? Would that let him access his (non-DA2) games again?
http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/#section9
Look at 9 and 11. They could effectively cut him off. Sounds like what they did.