BioWare Could Move Away from Fantasy and Sci-Fi
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I did think Jade Empire, but: 1. Jade Empire was awesome, and 2. Your title did sort of prep me to think of the odd ones out.
So we could be looking at a Space Precinct [//www.spaceprecinct.com/]-esque game from Bioware? Excuse me while while I try to comprehend this sudden rush of awesomeness.John Funk said:
Maybe if Bioware has made Alpha Protocol more people would have liked it, because I bleeding loved it. I played it twice back to back, and I intent to play it again sometime. I could not understand why it's appeal was so lacking. I didn't enjoy my "Shotgun and SMGs" character as much as my "Pistol, Unarmed and Stealth" character (second and first respectively), but it was still a solid game playing balls out action.
I also don't like why so few developers don't want to try RPG's in a pseudomodern era. But that's a query for a much more verbose reply sometime later.
I also don't like why so few developers don't want to try RPG's in a pseudomodern era. But that's a query for a much more verbose reply sometime later.
PIRATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please please please please please please please...I really want a good pirate RPG. Want to know how badly I want one? I'm pre-ordering Risen 2: Dark Waters. I'm not expecting quality, just a kind of game I've been wanting for a long time.
Plus, it could be based (or just have feature) my city, Charleston. Blackbeard did hold the city for ransom.
Give me my ArrrPGs, already!
Please please please please please please please...I really want a good pirate RPG. Want to know how badly I want one? I'm pre-ordering Risen 2: Dark Waters. I'm not expecting quality, just a kind of game I've been wanting for a long time.
Plus, it could be based (or just have feature) my city, Charleston. Blackbeard did hold the city for ransom.
Give me my ArrrPGs, already!
Hmmm, well I have mixed opinions. To be honest I'm a science fiction and fantasy nut, so moving away from those generes doesn't appeal to me. However as Bioware, like a lot of companies, seems to be wanting to sell out it's "geek" fan base for mainstream appeal, it's not surprising it wants to increasingly move away from what are generally fringe generes. Cop shows and the like are a staple for prime time TV, and what mostly appeals to the "everyman" with only a few science fiction and fantasy show scoring widespread mainstream appeal. With the lowest human denominator increasingly on computers, it makes sense for businesses to want to make games that appeal to them to reap the largest possible profits from the availible audience. Geeks might be a big audience, but we're not the biggest one that can be reached anymore.
It makes sense that looking back at earlier attempts to do this like "Police Quest", which didn't fail horribly even with the limited audience, with be inspiring.
Truthfully, I might enjoy a good cop show, mystery, or spy show, but science fiction, fantasy, and horror is what I always keep coming back to. You move away from those generes, your going to lose me, and probably a lot of people like me, sadly with the potential money to be made I doubt many of the gaming company execs running around with dollar signs in their eyes really care.
Speaking for myself, I thought "LA Noire" looked interesting on some levels, but overall the idea of just being a regular cop, and solving crimes, even fairly sensational ones, doesn't appeal to me as far as gaming goes. It's a differant time period, but all I could think of was "Police Quest 1940s" albiet with much more modern technology than that game series presented. I thought "Police Quest" was okay, but I was never a huge fan, I vastly preferred oh... "Quest For Glory".
The Spy genere is okay, as it has potential for a lot of wierdness, I thought "Alpha Protocol" could have been a masterpiece with a lot more work, or perhaps a differant team (Obsidian was a bit out of their depth).
Right now if I had to pick a genere for Bioware to head into, I'd probably say that I'd like to see them do a horror RPG game, rather than going in the directions they seem to be thinking. That's probably too heavily in geek territory for where they want to move though.
Looking at say "LA Noire" my big thoughts were that it seemed like it showed how someone could finally make a totally kick arse "Call Of Cthulhu" game, sadly Rock Star doesn't typically focus on material like that.
Such are my thoughts, mixed as they are.
It makes sense that looking back at earlier attempts to do this like "Police Quest", which didn't fail horribly even with the limited audience, with be inspiring.
Truthfully, I might enjoy a good cop show, mystery, or spy show, but science fiction, fantasy, and horror is what I always keep coming back to. You move away from those generes, your going to lose me, and probably a lot of people like me, sadly with the potential money to be made I doubt many of the gaming company execs running around with dollar signs in their eyes really care.
Speaking for myself, I thought "LA Noire" looked interesting on some levels, but overall the idea of just being a regular cop, and solving crimes, even fairly sensational ones, doesn't appeal to me as far as gaming goes. It's a differant time period, but all I could think of was "Police Quest 1940s" albiet with much more modern technology than that game series presented. I thought "Police Quest" was okay, but I was never a huge fan, I vastly preferred oh... "Quest For Glory".
The Spy genere is okay, as it has potential for a lot of wierdness, I thought "Alpha Protocol" could have been a masterpiece with a lot more work, or perhaps a differant team (Obsidian was a bit out of their depth).
Right now if I had to pick a genere for Bioware to head into, I'd probably say that I'd like to see them do a horror RPG game, rather than going in the directions they seem to be thinking. That's probably too heavily in geek territory for where they want to move though.
Looking at say "LA Noire" my big thoughts were that it seemed like it showed how someone could finally make a totally kick arse "Call Of Cthulhu" game, sadly Rock Star doesn't typically focus on material like that.
Such are my thoughts, mixed as they are.
Steampunk please, oh god please. If Bioware made a deal with Girl Genius I might implode from happiness :3
This would also be cool ARRR!DustyDrB said:
Bioware remaking Arcanum would be a bad idea. I haven't seen any evidence that they could create an open world game. Arcanum wouldn't work in the linear fashion that Bioware games tend to be.Hristo Tzonkov said:
If an Arcanum remake were ever to come around, I'd much rather Obsidian were the developers. They showed they could handle an open world game when they released New Vegas.
Oh god I really really hope they do a spy RPG. Or any RPG that's set in "modern" times. Such an underused setting in RPGs, at least those that don't involve vampires.
The problem with pirate RPGs is coming up with something to do with them. Such games typically come down to arguements about fantasy vs. simulation, with the sim crowd usually winning out. Once you start focusing on recreating the period, it kind of limits things as you wind up only having so many options for what you can do. Your bestiary pretty much winds up being "humans with swords and guns", and after hundreds of hours boating around in one pirate game it tends to become old hat when you run into another one. More detailed RPG mechanics can only add so much to the same basic activities.DustyDrB said:
I thought Disney's "Pirates Of The Carribean" MMORPG had potential for breaking the mould but it seemed to be too kid friendly, too focused on fitting in movie referances and characters, and by way of being too kid friendly involved things like where you couldn't shoot people with guns (I'm not kidding) one of those "WTF" things because even if your talking about emulating the movies, they certainly have no compunction about shooting each other with pistols.... needless to say I was disappointed and felt they wasted what could have been a really good liscence for adding enough elements to the pirate formula to keep it interesting, especially if they wanted to stray away from the movie a bit more and focus on it being "the world of..." more than such a literal use of the liscence.
Better idea: Platinum Games. They made one of the best action games of this generation.SageRuffin said:You know what I just thought of reading this? If BioWare managed to co-develop a Jade Empire sequel with none other than the infamous Team Ninja.rickynumber24 said:
Hang on, before you bring up Other M, recall that Team Ninja made Ninja Gaiden Black, one of the best action games of the previous generation. Seriously, check this video out:
Well, of course it wouldn't play exactly like that, but think of the possibilities!
Erm... sorry. A little too much root beer.
Think about it, Jade Empire meets Bayonetta. You know it makes sense.
Shouldn't Fantasy and Sci-Fi be considered settings rather than genres? I know having more than one genre is a common thing, but think about it. Action, Adventure, Mystery, Romance, etc. are things that can happen anywhere, anywhen. They also say something about the personality of the characters involved. Are they brave? Are they tenacious? Are they intelligent? Do they let emotions rule their decisions? Fantasy and Sci-Fi only decide what tools and obstacles are available to both protagonists and antagonists.
Wait, what was my point here? Ummm... I think I got lost on my opinions on technicalities. But Bioware can make a good engrossing story. I'm sure they can manage just fine without the exotic sparkle Fantasy and Sci-Fi tend to provide.
Wait, what was my point here? Ummm... I think I got lost on my opinions on technicalities. But Bioware can make a good engrossing story. I'm sure they can manage just fine without the exotic sparkle Fantasy and Sci-Fi tend to provide.
Despite wanting a Steampunk RPG I agree Obsidian would definately be a better choice for the Arcanum license. Bioware could certainly create a new IP with a steampunk style though.GiantRaven said:
Yarrr matey!DustyDrB said:
1) Well it was about time. and 2) How about some superheroes! I recommend the Mutants and Masterminds Freedom City Universe. 3) Try Mystery or Disaster genres.