BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC
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What was this occasion? "Just in case 2 infamous insane people join powers and try and destroy the world/internet/reason, I made you a batman costume so you can get sidetracked by riddler trophies"? I wish my mum was that cool. She just gave me a bunch a junk and told me I could be anything I wanted. So by day I wear a box and by night I wear a bin-bag. True story.Daystar Clarion said:
Not all AAA is that bad. Take Skyrim for instance, it's been out a bit over 3 months and has had a free texture pack DLC and a free CK release, absolutely no paid DLC created before release, no in-game bonuses to collectors editions or preorders or anything. If you bought the game, you got the full game. No exceptions.Sandytimeman said:
Basically what this is going to come down to sometime next week is basically what happened with the multiplayer. "OMGNOES NO MULTIPLAYER BAD EVIL BIOWARE DEVIL SATAN FAIL". then they played it "Hey, you know, it's not that bad." Probably about the same as what's going to happen with this DLC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM
This guy can explain this much better than anyone here. I agree with him entirely, simply because he's 100% right. I would've been fine with this as long as the DLC was entirely aesthetic, but it's not, and the game hasn't even been released yet, also, the price of the DLC is 1/5, maybe less of the full game, so it should contain that much imo.
This guy can explain this much better than anyone here. I agree with him entirely, simply because he's 100% right. I would've been fine with this as long as the DLC was entirely aesthetic, but it's not, and the game hasn't even been released yet, also, the price of the DLC is 1/5, maybe less of the full game, so it should contain that much imo.
Hey you know if this was released a month after release everyone would be fine with it. But for some reason because it was released at launch everyone is in an uproar. You can't afford it right now then don't buy it right now wait a while.
The thing is that TotalBiscut's video has been torn to shreds time and time again.HalfBakedCheeto said:
He is wrong, almost 100% so.
1300 posts Jesus H christ. People, you do realize that after I post this we only need around 40 more posts to get this thread on the hottest thread of the year list and then it will NEVER die...I probably didn't help just now. I need to talk about something on topic now....uh...if you hate the DLC so much then just don't buy it, it has around just as much importance as Lair of the Shadow broker, and why does it being developed alongside the game make it bad?
Released 2 months after full game = acceptable
Released at launch = unforgivable
I don't follow.
Also I like TotalBiscuit but he's not infallible.
Released 2 months after full game = acceptable
Released at launch = unforgivable
I don't follow.
Also I like TotalBiscuit but he's not infallible.
I do like the cut of your jib.erttheking said:
Also people are just dumb really. They feel because its a day one DLC they are being forced to pay more for the game already and that's just unacceptable. The entire thing about content being cut away from the game is just bunk.
I find it ironic that the people who are okay with buying the DLC are "sheeple" or whatever according to Zeel. But then a few of the people who are against the DLC have basically been saying:SajuukKhar said:
"But....butbutbut....TOTALBISCUIT SAID!!!"
And apparently they're free thinkers with their own ideas and whatnot.
Wow, almost 40 pages for a DLC that looks totally crap? I'm just relieved that Prothy is optional and not part of the "real" game.
My biggest problem with this is.. the construction of this kind of DLC in the first place is damaging to the franchise as a whole.
Zaeed and Kasumi.. would you really consider them a part of the canon of Mass Effect? They have no connection to anyone else but themselves and are not integrated into the plot as a whole. As a matter of fact, that's probably why ME2 was just a character recruitment simulator, because the game was designed around independent characters that could be dropped out of the plot at will.
This is in stark contrast to ME1, where every crew member was important or became important in the grand scheme of things. You don't have any "Ashley and Kaiden" moments, you don't have the Wrex standoff at the factory, you don't have the Liara parts where she helped explain your prothean connection, you don't have Tali moments where she carried vital information about corrupt affairs of the villains, you don't have any moments like that in ME2.
That's because ME2 was designed around greed. The entire cast of that game was created around non-interdependent parts so that they could shove DLC in more smoothly. That's why the game has so little of a main plot to it. EA has messed with the story of Mass Effect so that they could make more money and Bioware was forced to develop around this. They did a good job, but it's still sad that they had to work like that and it makes you wonder what could have been. You begin to realize why their top developers and writers keep leaving.
The argument that they would just fire those extra developers without the DLC involved is just ridiculous. That's where expansion packs, much more substantial side stuff come in to play. Bethesda has already gone back on board with this. Or heck, they could always be put on the next game in the franchise or the next franchise entirely. This is EA, they always have another project in line. Heck, working on simple cosmetic stuff is perfectly fine fine with me, but not an entire separate character. That crosses the line.
Don't get me wrong, ME2 is still a great game, but this DLC business is crapping all over us and I don't know how anyone can defend it. EA don't exactly have a good track record with this either, in-fact, I would describe them as despicable human beings who destroy franchises to make a quick buck. No one should trust EA, they have never earned it.
Zaeed and Kasumi.. would you really consider them a part of the canon of Mass Effect? They have no connection to anyone else but themselves and are not integrated into the plot as a whole. As a matter of fact, that's probably why ME2 was just a character recruitment simulator, because the game was designed around independent characters that could be dropped out of the plot at will.
This is in stark contrast to ME1, where every crew member was important or became important in the grand scheme of things. You don't have any "Ashley and Kaiden" moments, you don't have the Wrex standoff at the factory, you don't have the Liara parts where she helped explain your prothean connection, you don't have Tali moments where she carried vital information about corrupt affairs of the villains, you don't have any moments like that in ME2.
That's because ME2 was designed around greed. The entire cast of that game was created around non-interdependent parts so that they could shove DLC in more smoothly. That's why the game has so little of a main plot to it. EA has messed with the story of Mass Effect so that they could make more money and Bioware was forced to develop around this. They did a good job, but it's still sad that they had to work like that and it makes you wonder what could have been. You begin to realize why their top developers and writers keep leaving.
The argument that they would just fire those extra developers without the DLC involved is just ridiculous. That's where expansion packs, much more substantial side stuff come in to play. Bethesda has already gone back on board with this. Or heck, they could always be put on the next game in the franchise or the next franchise entirely. This is EA, they always have another project in line. Heck, working on simple cosmetic stuff is perfectly fine fine with me, but not an entire separate character. That crosses the line.
Don't get me wrong, ME2 is still a great game, but this DLC business is crapping all over us and I don't know how anyone can defend it. EA don't exactly have a good track record with this either, in-fact, I would describe them as despicable human beings who destroy franchises to make a quick buck. No one should trust EA, they have never earned it.
would you considering a Prothean grunt who has no real knowalge of everything part of Mass Effects canon?
Also do you remember the days of expansions?
The days of having to wait for a year or more to get new content?
The days when said content was only about 2 of New Vegas' DLC worth of content?
The days where you had to pay 30-40 dollars what you can get from two 10 dollars DLC today?
The days where after you beat said content you had to wait another year or more to get new content?
those days SUCKED.
I don't know about you but I personally don't want to go back to that.
Also do you remember the days of expansions?
The days of having to wait for a year or more to get new content?
The days when said content was only about 2 of New Vegas' DLC worth of content?
The days where you had to pay 30-40 dollars what you can get from two 10 dollars DLC today?
The days where after you beat said content you had to wait another year or more to get new content?
those days SUCKED.
I don't know about you but I personally don't want to go back to that.
Because paying $10 for a squad member is such a better system.SajuukKhar said:
Say what you like about Expansion packs, but, at least they weren't crap like Weapon skins and Horse armour.
The decently done packs were basically small sequels to the game.
DLC these days are awfully overpriced and provides very little content for what it is.
I can think of only a few examples of decent DLC, the vast majority seems to be minimal work for maximum profit.