Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
Hypocrites, all of you.
For the record, I personally was not rooting for the hackers. And they were never "taking down" anything. They were just being a nuisance.Pendragon9 said:Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
Yeah check out the wikipedia page on Anonymous,Luthir Fontaine said:So anonymous goes after people they deem a threat?phelan511 said:Ehh.... difference is Anonymous hacks and goes after people that deserve it according to their ideals of free speech and freedom of information (most of the time anyway). Lulzsec tends to just go after game companies just to cause havoc IMO.Luthir Fontaine said:Both use there computer knowledge to A: ruin peoples day and B: to make people do what they want, strong arm them if you would.phelan511 said:I don't recall them defending Lulzsec. They did sorta defend Anonymous, but it was more of the fact that Anonymous straight up said it wasn't them. As proof, 4chan got DDoS'd for a bit yesterday. Not sure by who but my money's on LulzsecLuthir Fontaine said:So when well those extra credit guys make another video talking about how great those hackers are....?
I don't think anyone supported the Sony takedown, it was universally agreed to be a massive dick move, besides LulzSec =/= Anonymous, just because they both happen to be hackers, that doesn't mean supporting one means we support all hacker groups.Pendragon9 said:Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
Spartan448 said:Well, this means that LulzSec is getting closer and cloaser to the core of the gaming community. We know that their apparant motive is to expose weaknesses in internet security, but we all know that a talented hacker can get through anything that's not government level security.
Ailauris said:What I'm wondering is when will they go after Blizzard?
Well Sony was the first one hit majorly. It's possible the other companies learned from their mistake.Madara said:Ya know. All I keep seeing that every other fucking company under the sun has responded to these attacks better than the idiots over at Sony.
First, Anonymous is not an organization at all. They are more like a bunch of strangers that just happen to hang out in the same public room.elvor0 said:Yeah check out the wikipedia page on Anonymous,Luthir Fontaine said:So anonymous goes after people they deem a threat?phelan511 said:Ehh.... difference is Anonymous hacks and goes after people that deserve it according to their ideals of free speech and freedom of information (most of the time anyway). Lulzsec tends to just go after game companies just to cause havoc IMO.Luthir Fontaine said:Both use there computer knowledge to A: ruin peoples day and B: to make people do what they want, strong arm them if you would.phelan511 said:I don't recall them defending Lulzsec. They did sorta defend Anonymous, but it was more of the fact that Anonymous straight up said it wasn't them. As proof, 4chan got DDoS'd for a bit yesterday. Not sure by who but my money's on LulzsecLuthir Fontaine said:So when well those extra credit guys make another video talking about how great those hackers are....?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
their hacking is generally good for everyone, as they try to help free speech where ever they can, some people might see it as immature but personally the proper Anonymous that goes after corruption, wikileaks and freespeech and so on seems good to me.
The problem is alot of people will just say their anonymous to sound cool, which is technically correct because they are a formless organization hence the name, but I'm sure theres some sort of top dog shadow cabal that are the proper anonymous that never let anyone know who they are.
LulzSec on the other hand, are just a massive pain in the arse, as they just keep taking out services and things that everyone enjoys.
I don't think anyone supported the Sony takedown, it was universally agreed to be a massive dick move, besides LulzSec =/= Anonymous, just because they both happen to be hackers, that doesn't mean supporting one means we support all hacker groups.Pendragon9 said:Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
I really hope that you are right on this, I really do.Gethsemani said:Lulz Sec has obviously found a way to get their Lulz on; Hack everything you can think off. Most likely it is just a fad and will fade in a month or so when they find something else to get their Lulz on.
Well you know what I mean by Sony takedown; it's semantics, that was just the words I happen to used for it, they took PSN down, which is sort of what I meant, then took all the customer details. Granted there were some people that supported it, but we can pretty much just label them as dicks, I don't even have a PS3, but I'll be damned if I supported the attack and most people didn't. There was pretty much no reason to support it unless you're some sort of massive anti sony fanboi.A1 said:First, Anonymous is not an organization at all. They are more like a bunch of strangers that just happen to hang out in the same public room.elvor0 said:Yeah check out the wikipedia page on Anonymous,Luthir Fontaine said:So anonymous goes after people they deem a threat?phelan511 said:Ehh.... difference is Anonymous hacks and goes after people that deserve it according to their ideals of free speech and freedom of information (most of the time anyway). Lulzsec tends to just go after game companies just to cause havoc IMO.Luthir Fontaine said:Both use there computer knowledge to A: ruin peoples day and B: to make people do what they want, strong arm them if you would.phelan511 said:I don't recall them defending Lulzsec. They did sorta defend Anonymous, but it was more of the fact that Anonymous straight up said it wasn't them. As proof, 4chan got DDoS'd for a bit yesterday. Not sure by who but my money's on LulzsecLuthir Fontaine said:So when well those extra credit guys make another video talking about how great those hackers are....?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
their hacking is generally good for everyone, as they try to help free speech where ever they can, some people might see it as immature but personally the proper Anonymous that goes after corruption, wikileaks and freespeech and so on seems good to me.
The problem is alot of people will just say their anonymous to sound cool, which is technically correct because they are a formless organization hence the name, but I'm sure theres some sort of top dog shadow cabal that are the proper anonymous that never let anyone know who they are.
LulzSec on the other hand, are just a massive pain in the arse, as they just keep taking out services and things that everyone enjoys.
I don't think anyone supported the Sony takedown, it was universally agreed to be a massive dick move, besides LulzSec =/= Anonymous, just because they both happen to be hackers, that doesn't mean supporting one means we support all hacker groups.Pendragon9 said:Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
Next, there was, and is, no "Sony takedown", but just an attack against Sony. And if you think no one was rooting for the hackers when they were attacking Sony then I'm afraid that you're badly mistaken. When Sony was first attacked everyone who didn't like Sony for any reason was having a field day.
To answer your question, remember how we all laughed at the kid whining that hacking Counter Strike and CoD should be illegal?TheCommie12 said:what is it with hacking these days?!
When wasn't it?Glamorgan said:*sigh*
This is getting rather irritating now...
I wish you would be more precise and accurate with regard to your wording. To say "all customer details" would imply that stuff like how many freckles each customers has and the like. A more accurate way of saying it is that the hackers stole personal information. And they didn't take PSN down. Sony did that to stop them, and it worked. And they stole personal info before Sony shut them down, not after.elvor0 said:Well you know what I mean by Sony takedown; it's semantics, that was just the words I happen to used for it, they took PSN down, which is sort of what I meant, then took all the customer details. Granted there were some people that supported it, but we can pretty much just label them as dicks, I don't even have a PS3, but I'll be damned if I supported the attack and most people didn't. There was pretty much no reason to support it unless you're some sort of massive anti sony fanboi.A1 said:First, Anonymous is not an organization at all. They are more like a bunch of strangers that just happen to hang out in the same public room.elvor0 said:Yeah check out the wikipedia page on Anonymous,Luthir Fontaine said:So anonymous goes after people they deem a threat?phelan511 said:Ehh.... difference is Anonymous hacks and goes after people that deserve it according to their ideals of free speech and freedom of information (most of the time anyway). Lulzsec tends to just go after game companies just to cause havoc IMO.Luthir Fontaine said:Both use there computer knowledge to A: ruin peoples day and B: to make people do what they want, strong arm them if you would.phelan511 said:I don't recall them defending Lulzsec. They did sorta defend Anonymous, but it was more of the fact that Anonymous straight up said it wasn't them. As proof, 4chan got DDoS'd for a bit yesterday. Not sure by who but my money's on LulzsecLuthir Fontaine said:So when well those extra credit guys make another video talking about how great those hackers are....?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)
their hacking is generally good for everyone, as they try to help free speech where ever they can, some people might see it as immature but personally the proper Anonymous that goes after corruption, wikileaks and freespeech and so on seems good to me.
The problem is alot of people will just say their anonymous to sound cool, which is technically correct because they are a formless organization hence the name, but I'm sure theres some sort of top dog shadow cabal that are the proper anonymous that never let anyone know who they are.
LulzSec on the other hand, are just a massive pain in the arse, as they just keep taking out services and things that everyone enjoys.
I don't think anyone supported the Sony takedown, it was universally agreed to be a massive dick move, besides LulzSec =/= Anonymous, just because they both happen to be hackers, that doesn't mean supporting one means we support all hacker groups.Pendragon9 said:Yeah, you all were rooting for the hackers when they were taking down a company you hated, but now they're targeting things you like, so it isn't so funny anymore, is it?
Hypocrites, all of you.
Next, there was, and is, no "Sony takedown", but just an attack against Sony. And if you think no one was rooting for the hackers when they were attacking Sony then I'm afraid that you're badly mistaken. When Sony was first attacked everyone who didn't like Sony for any reason was having a field day.
On the Anonymous front, I know Anonymous isn't an organization, but I'm sure there is some sect of it that Organizes the Free Speech movements; the top hacktivists as it were. I know it is a formless entity and anyone can be a part of it, but proper Anonymous must have some sort of organization hidden with in it in order to organize their Free Speech attacks. Like they use the formlessness of it to move around undetected, using the chaos of it to do their stuff
freddi91 said:Its not the hackers' faults. Security updates for server software costs money. So they take the easy way out by not securing it properly.
analogy: If a bank decided to not upgrade its vault with paper walls to metal walls and some thief came by and stole all your savings..... would you really blame the thief as much as the banking company?
Companies should just delete account data that they dont plan on using anymore once they stop supporting the games.
If this keeps up, I see two possible outcomes:
paid internet security that leaves room for privacy goes up
or
pair internet security that does not leave room for privacy goes up (the easy way out for security firms... yet it would cause protests... I hope)
As my old man would say...'Back in my day somebody would've hit someone by now'Ilikemilkshake said:Damn hackers! when will it end!