BioWare: Mass Effect 3 Combat Perfected
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I don't understand where your post comes from ? I complained about DA2 and said that I don't like their focus for ME3 and am losing faith in SW TOR as well and you come and say how I'm wrong because "ME2 was AWESOME" ... -_- ??McMullen said:I don't understand where this viewpoint comes from. When I played ME1 I though it was the best game ever. I'm currently playing through it again to get a character ready for ME2, and now it's just a test of patience and tolerance. ME2's gameplay and story are both vastly improved as far as I can tell. The characters are more interesting, the environments and world more fleshed out and refined (Omega feels like the shithole it's supposed to be, Illium feels like a nice place to visit... at least at first glance), and we don't keep revisiting the same 3 prefab structures on 50 different planets. I think they should have done away with the probe mechanic and replaced it with the quick survey from orbit from the first game, along with bigger caches of minerals in mission areas.Vaer said:Kind of sad what Bioware is slowly becoming since it became part of EA, not that it wasn't to be expected but it's still depressing, from deep and involving story and characters to mindless action and cliche and shallow story and characters, from the leading RPG developer to crappy action and shooter games, did all the people that work on previous games just die ? cause after DA2 and now hearing this it seems like Bioware itself isn't far off from following them... hell even my hopes for SW TOR are slowly being killed
It seems to me that people just assume all non-shooter aspects of ME2 suffer simply because the RPG mechanics were made less of a focus. I don't agree at all. I would have liked more than just 4 levels per power, but there just isn't anything in ME2 that I would say was better in ME1. Even the probe gameplay, while boring, is far less time-consuming than the mako.
ME 2 was fine, I liked it a lot but it had its fare share of problems and ME3 most definitely does not need to become even more of a shooter.
Still I don't get your post since you're saying I'm wrong by talking about something completely different :S
Ladders and unique tactics were already in the previous Mass Effects. Do they mean they are going to expand on these? All they need to do to smarten the AI is to make them use cover intelligently.
Mass Effect 1&2 are both RPG/FPS. Battles were very improved in the second and the only issue i had were the clips.
Mass Effect 1&2 are both RPG/FPS. Battles were very improved in the second and the only issue i had were the clips.
Ho ho ho, you and your puns.HankMan said:
What I'm really concerned about is the inventory mechanics, the first one's was overly tedious and the second's was almost non-existant, personally I would prefer a regular rpg-inventory.
So they're comparing Mass Effect 3 to Call of Duty now? I'm definetly not buying this thing now.
Being a first-person shooter fan as well, I don't mind if Mass Effect 3's shooter mechanics are elevated towards the levels expected from "pure" shooters...
...As long as they don't also keep the RPG mechanics dumbed down like they were in ME2. And since BioWare have promised more than once to make improvements in that area for ME3, I don't expect to be disappointed.
...As long as they don't also keep the RPG mechanics dumbed down like they were in ME2. And since BioWare have promised more than once to make improvements in that area for ME3, I don't expect to be disappointed.
I agree, and I also want to add that it's kind of silly to tout the ability to climb ladders as a great new gameplay mechanic.GLo Jones said:
Grand Theft Auto 4 did this in their interviews and it just sounded chuckle worthy.
Should we really be so impressed with this evolution in their game?
I say 'their game' because climbing ladders has sort of been a gaming staple for as long as I can remember.
Sure, it's cool the first time you gain an elavational advantage over your opponent but really it's just for kicks.
VivaciousDeimos said:
Quoted both of you just to get your attention... you can actually have the Yeoman take care of that for youLoop Stricken said:
As for the topic, quite simply, I'm looking forward to this. I haven't lost faith in Bioware at all. So they fucked up a little with Dragon Age 2... it was still a good game, just not AS good. Worse =/= bad. And right now, Mass Effect is there baby, so they're probably focusing most of their stuff on that. So I'm not worried.
There is something wrong here... we're having a logical and pleasant exchange of ideas on the interwebz?! I have to admit, my eyes are brimming with tears.Ian Caronia said:
EVERYONE, LOOKS HERE! Someone who thinks ME2 is an RPG and someone who thinks it isn't an RPG are GETTING ALONG!!! We're the Romeo and Juliet of the modern day, but without the sex!
That's awesome, because I have a short fuse from people always complaining that ME2 was dumbed down. I don't call them anything specifically, but I usually just say something about how they exist because I allow it, and that their heads will explode because I demand it.
YES! THIS! Now we are grooving to the RPG & SHOOTER MUZAK!!!! *Shepard dance*
Hahahahaha! Best. Line. Ever. I wonder if the escapist can set up some sort of auto-reply for everyone who complains about the game either way with this. If I wasn't so lazy, I would take this a step further and draw a comic of two dudes running around the corner with Mass Effect in their hands and bumping into each other... "You got your shooter in my RPG!" "You got your RPG in my shooter!" and they both smile.Glad you were as amiable as I hoped you were, mate! Hope you have fun with your ME3 RPG, because I hope I'll be having a blast with my ME3 shooter!
Want to make Mass Effect 3 perfect Bioware?
Get rid of the bloody idiotic thermal clip system. Over heating worked fine in Mass Effect. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
Give us back the inventory system but scale back on micro-management a bit.
Bring back character progression. I liked the fact that at the beginning of Mass Effect I was barely a marine then built myself up to be y'know, Shepard.
And this is more of a personal gripe but please do something about Charge if you're going to keep it for Vanguards. What's the point in the ability if an AI enemy can lock me down simply by being behind cover?
Get rid of the bloody idiotic thermal clip system. Over heating worked fine in Mass Effect. Don't fix it if it isn't broken.
Give us back the inventory system but scale back on micro-management a bit.
Bring back character progression. I liked the fact that at the beginning of Mass Effect I was barely a marine then built myself up to be y'know, Shepard.
And this is more of a personal gripe but please do something about Charge if you're going to keep it for Vanguards. What's the point in the ability if an AI enemy can lock me down simply by being behind cover?
there feels to be something wrong with the dragon age and mass effect series since origins and ME1, but what is it...oh, now i see, they have shifted everything to combat...
lets be serious, while the sequels still are heavily story based, there does seem to be a much larger focus on the combat when compared to the first ones, the combat is just icing on the cake, and im going to say this in capitals, IN MY OPINION.
i would much rather the advertsto be about how DAII was a tale about Hawke, but all i heard was "the combat is much more streamlined and is better on the console then DAO"...i play BIOWARE GAMES FOR THE STORY.
one little thing that would be cool, the subtitle under the title for 'mass effect 3' should be "Combat Perfected", teach halo a thing or two.
lets be serious, while the sequels still are heavily story based, there does seem to be a much larger focus on the combat when compared to the first ones, the combat is just icing on the cake, and im going to say this in capitals, IN MY OPINION.
i would much rather the advertsto be about how DAII was a tale about Hawke, but all i heard was "the combat is much more streamlined and is better on the console then DAO"...i play BIOWARE GAMES FOR THE STORY.
one little thing that would be cool, the subtitle under the title for 'mass effect 3' should be "Combat Perfected", teach halo a thing or two.
I agree with most of your points, save for this. While I do like that the skill progression was very distinct, it conflicted so badly with the story that it bugs me every time I go back to play. Shepard supposedly starts the game as an elite N7 operative yet he can't reliably hit a target 20 feet away? Something's amiss here.Doc Theta Sigma said:
