Um ME was the absolute best of the series. ME2 was a buggy, crappy, Gears of War rip-off that stripped away all the immersion ME had. (Let's get rid of the elevator where you'd hear news about your exploits, get new missions, and hear squad banter and replace it with... a GRAPHIC of an elevator that is on screen for longer! Genius!) And ME3 was a little bit better than 2 up until the very end.Zeriah said:
I would expect it to be closer to 50 shades of grey.Eruanno said:
Gears of War rip off? Hard to take you seriously when you say stuff like that. You still have classes, you still have talents, you still have weapon choices and abilities, you still have to control your squad. It just had a slightly higher focus on the shooting portion of it, so you can't just stand in the open and kill everything without being in any danger at all (so long as you use your skills), like in ME1 (that you could even do this on Insanity difficulty as a Soldier was just insane). There were no bugs on my game and the 'crappy' part is your opinion.Nimzabaat said:
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You must be new to this and any other website. ME2 was as "critically" acclaimed as Too Human. My complaint was cut-scene/chest high walls/cut-scene (oh and the completely dumbed-down inventory system). It wasn't even a GOOD Gears of War rip-off. And, because you're new, that was a complaint from a lot of people. Welcome to the internet by the wayZeriah said:
I've been here since March 2009 friend. ME2 is more critically acclaimed than ME1 by fans and critics alike. This is fact. If you took five minutes to research your claims instead spouting out this absurdity, you would see this. Even this community likes ME2 more than ME1. There's been so many polls that support this (for example the annual, enormous, greatest game of all time thread, where ME2 is always ranked significantly higher than ME1), that you have missed all this means you don't know this website very well. There is a small minority that did like the supermarket clerk gameplay of ME1's inventory system, but more people liked ME2's system. This is because ME1's system wasn't complex at all -- just a tedious chore. Then you would go out into the actual combat and be disappointed because it required little effort on your part once you exited the menu screen. The combat in ME1 was incredibly shallow, even on insanity, hence why people overall prefer ME2.Nimzabaat said:You must be new to this and any other website. ME2 was as "critically" acclaimed as Too Human. My complaint was cut-scene/chest high walls/cut-scene (oh and the completely dumbed-down inventory system). It wasn't even a GOOD Gears of War rip-off. And, because you're new, that was a complaint from a lot of people. Welcome to the internet by the wayZeriah said:
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So you completely missed the whole "ME2 is the beginning of the end for Bioware" rants? ALL of them? That's a huge rock to be living under. I wonder if you get intern... Oh, apparently not. ME2 brought out the first wave of "EA has destroyed Bioware". Followed up by DA2, the second wave of said bitching. Then followed again by ME3, and an even bigger wave of bitching. (Oh and SWTOR was in there somewhere too). Critics did say good things about ME2, but they're paid too, so that doesn't count. Hell, they said the same good things about ME3. (the closest thing to an honest critic is Yahtzee and most people don't use his reviews as a buying guide). Non-Bioware fans also said good things about ME2. But realistically, ME2 was Bioware's first big "F**K YOU" to their fanbase. Once again, followed up by an "and your mother too" with DA2... Yeah that's a mighty big rock.Zeriah said:I've been here since March 2009 friend. ME2 is more critically acclaimed than ME1 by fans and critics alike. This is fact. If you took five minutes to research your claims would see this. Even this community likes ME2 more than ME1. There's been so many polls that support this (for example the annual, enormous, greatest game of all time thread, where ME2 is always ranked significantly higher than ME1), that you have missed all this means you don't know this website very well. There's a small minority that did like the supermarket clerc gameplay of ME1's inventory system. However it required very little thought to understand, it wasn't complex at all -- just tedious. Then you would go out to into actual combat and it required no effort on your part whatsoever. The combat in ME1 was incredibly shallow, even on insanity. Hence why people overall prefer ME2.Nimzabaat said:You must be new to this and any other website. ME2 was as "critically" acclaimed as Too Human. My complaint was cut-scene/chest high walls/cut-scene (oh and the completely dumbed-down inventory system). It wasn't even a GOOD Gears of War rip-off. And, because you're new, that was a complaint from a lot of people. Welcome to the internet by the wayZeriah said:
So yes, I prefer actually needing to direct your squad, using your abilities in a tactical way and yes, even the use of chest high walls because bullets are actual threats (unlike the nigh invulnerability of ME1) more than ME1 and thankfully the public overall agrees with this
Some people were upset about losing the chore of the inventory system, I do remember this. However as I said, more people liked ME2, just take a look at any poll. There was a bit of an initial circle jerk by disgruntled fans of clerk simulation. However these were always promptly interrupted by the reasonable majority. Critics liked ME2 more, fans liked ME2 more and this website likes ME2 more. Deal with it.Nimzabaat said:So you completely missed the whole "ME2 is the beginning of the end for Bioware" rants? ALL of them? That's a huge rock to be living under. I wonder if you get intern... Oh, apparently not. ME2 brought out the first wave of "EA has destroyed Bioware". Followed up by DA2, the second wave of said bitching. Then followed again by ME3, and an even bigger wave of bitching. (Oh and SWTOR was in there somewhere too). Critics did say good things about ME2, but they're paid too, so that doesn't count. Hell, they said the same good things about ME3. (the closest thing to an honest critic is Yahtzee and most people don't use his reviews as a buying guide). Non-Bioware fans also said good things about ME2. But realistically, ME2 was Bioware's first big "F**K YOU" to their fanbase. Once again, followed up by an "and your mother too" with DA2... Yeah that's a mighty big rock.Zeriah said:I've been here since March 2009 friend. ME2 is more critically acclaimed than ME1 by fans and critics alike. This is fact. If you took five minutes to research your claims would see this. Even this community likes ME2 more than ME1. There's been so many polls that support this (for example the annual, enormous, greatest game of all time thread, where ME2 is always ranked significantly higher than ME1), that you have missed all this means you don't know this website very well. There's a small minority that did like the supermarket clerc gameplay of ME1's inventory system. However it required very little thought to understand, it wasn't complex at all -- just tedious. Then you would go out to into actual combat and it required no effort on your part whatsoever. The combat in ME1 was incredibly shallow, even on insanity. Hence why people overall prefer ME2.Nimzabaat said:You must be new to this and any other website. ME2 was as "critically" acclaimed as Too Human. My complaint was cut-scene/chest high walls/cut-scene (oh and the completely dumbed-down inventory system). It wasn't even a GOOD Gears of War rip-off. And, because you're new, that was a complaint from a lot of people. Welcome to the internet by the wayZeriah said:
So yes, I prefer actually needing to direct your squad, using your abilities in a tactical way and yes, even the use of chest high walls because bullets are actual threats (unlike the nigh invulnerability of ME1) more than ME1 and thankfully the public overall agrees with this
Oh and ME had a very functional and elegant cover system that didn't feel at all like you were playing Gears of War. Just saying.
It was better than having two pistols, one of which may have been better than the other but without stats how would you know? It was better than, "look! I found something I can hack! What's my prize? ... Credits, just credits". It was an RPG without a loot system. I understand that the ME inventory system was a bit much for people not used to RPGs, but to drop looting entirely was a mistake. Bioware even realized the mistake and over-compensated in ME2.J Tyran said:
When you're right, you're right. Nobody on this website had anything bad to say about ME2. Or let me spare a couple of minutes...Zeriah said:
You are missing the point, ME1 had one pistol because every pistol was the same. In ME2 there may only have been two pistols at launch but again you are missing it because neither of those two pistols was "better" because they filled different roles. They where not the exact same pistol in the same 3-4 skins endlessly repeated with no real difference apart from one being a pistol mkI with +1 DPS and a pistol mkII with +2 DPS.Nimzabaat said:
Good sir, those kind of threads are most common on the Escapist when games that have received massive critical acclaim as well as fan approval are released including the months proceeding. It happened with Skyrim's launch. Let's just say that the most popular in media also has the most vocal dissenters, if you will. Mass Effect 2 certainly is the most critically acclaimed of the series and not just because it had the best sales figures. It also received more awards, and fans have since praised it for fixing many of the first one's short comings. It's just the way it is.Nimzabaat said:
So, in your mind, Borderlands would be improved if there were only 10 guns in the whole game? Diablo would be improved if there was only a dozen items for you to pick up? Let me guess, you'd write an adventure game where a player picks up "the sword" and is then done for inventory? What about being able to give your squad armour and upgrades? Optimizing your character and your team to be the best they can be is part of RPGs. Oh and ME had several different types of weapons in each category with different capabilities and better variants. Also note that they brought that back in ME3 because so many people were asking for it.J Tyran said:
Well thanks for changing your tune at least. The deceptive thing about ME2s sales figures is that they were based off of people (like me) expecting it to be an improvement over ME. Which it wasn't. And some people (like me) were upset about being duped, suckered, played for fools etc. In the only industry that does not allow returns (I wanted to give ME2 back after 30 min) not everything is black and white. But it was a big hit with the Gears of War fans!TheDrunkNinja said:
You know I didn't say nobody on the Escapist had anything negative to say about ME2, don't be that guy. Of course some did, there's even people that say bad things about Portal and Half-Life 2.Nimzabaat said:
My tune? I don't know what you mean. This is the first time I've written to you.Nimzabaat said: