Blizzard breaks their own ToU
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The site covers games. Not just WoW. If it were a WoW dedicated site, you'd get a lot more response. The general opinion of WoW on this site, despite the coverage, is that it is satan in game form.Xalmgrey said:
Sad, I know, as I had a lot of fun playing it when I did, but that's just how people here see it.
Well, look at how the game is portrayed by the media. Look at the people who get in the news because of bad things that happen while they're playing. All of us know someone who has no sense of moderation, but people blame the games for taking their friends away from them. They never blame the player for not having control over themselves.Xalmgrey said:
Well it's hard to parse a lot of biased information on all the conflicting sides, but I think a good compromise might have been to unban him but leave a slap on the wrist suspension. Even if you had the most noble of intentions, it's worth reinforcing that arranging massive cross server meet ups is going to cause issues and can quickly, be it intentionally or unintentionally, devolve into that kind of behavior.Xalmgrey said:
I also don't think it's simply a case of Blizzard bending over backward because of fame, money, etc. His followers and such are a drop in the bucket compared to their total numbers and forum outrage dies out faster than frogger on the interstate. People tend to get a slightly inflated or lopsided view based on forums when you need to understand that it only represents the most vocal minority of a community.
Aye i see what you mean. It all comes around to people taking responsibility for their own actions. I've seen some of the coverage of which you speak, but i've seen the same coverage for games like counterstrike where people would leave children unfed, die from no rest for 50 hours and so on. To me its always seemed more like just games at large would be pinned rather than just one. But we do love to have a singular villain within which to blame our troubles. Grand Theft Auto is too old to pick on i suppose.Gxas said:
Why is everyone so quick to assume he did it on purpose? WoW is his thing and he makes a living playing it. It doesn't sound like his type of thing to purposely crash the server
I totally agree with you, the majority of WoW players do not use the forum only a small percentile do. My intention to bring this here was to put it into a forum that wasn't ruled by blizzard but an actual open forum where people could say exactly what they wanted rather than posts randomly being edited and disappearing, something out of Blizzard field of control. Whether or not anyone cares is up to them.Slycne said:
At any rate listen to the video before it gets loud and you can clearly hear that they were going to crash the server. He was there and party to the whole thing.TwitchyGamer101 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtGZiG-Z_SM
However you decide to make your minds up after watching that is up to you, but its pretty hard to deny he wasn't party to it.
This entire story made me physically ill.
Not only does this asshole crash 3 F'ing servers "accidentally" (if after the first crash it was accidental he must be a bloody retard),and has the nerve to whine like a little ***** and act like the poor underdog the cruel corporate Blizzard banned,he also gets his account back?
WTF?!
And why? because of Razer?Blizzard is practically made of money I'm sure Razer needs Blizz more than the opposite,so it was probably because of his fanboy legion...
This makes me very sad,not to mention angry....
(sorry if my English is all messed up...I'm not a native speaker)
Not only does this asshole crash 3 F'ing servers "accidentally" (if after the first crash it was accidental he must be a bloody retard),and has the nerve to whine like a little ***** and act like the poor underdog the cruel corporate Blizzard banned,he also gets his account back?
WTF?!
And why? because of Razer?Blizzard is practically made of money I'm sure Razer needs Blizz more than the opposite,so it was probably because of his fanboy legion...
This makes me very sad,not to mention angry....
(sorry if my English is all messed up...I'm not a native speaker)
I think this falls within the olde "pick your battles".Xalmgrey said:
1) You ain't going to win against blizzard.
2) User apathy will prevent you taking real action, those loud complainers wont stand up and be counted should the time come
and perhapse most importantly
3)it's a game, is it really worth all your time and effort to try and arrange something? Surely that time could be better spent in your real life?
Unless Swifty is the CEO of Razer I doubt that his employment there had anything to do with the final decision. Razer makes a metric shit of money off off Blizzard. While Blizzard makes a lot of money from Razer they ultimately hold all the licenses to their IPs and I am sure it would not take long to find someone else willing to make qualiy Blizzard themed keyboards and mice etc... Severing ties over something like this stands to lose Razer way more money then Blizzard.
More likely the Swifty supporters had Blizzard by the balls. I know it sucks but what are they suppose to do.
All and all everyone should probably let it go. It is not worth getting your undies in a bunch. Maybe he got special treatment maybe he didn't. As long everyone minds their Ps and Qs and doesn't doing anything to get banned there is no reason to worry about who got special treatment or not.
More likely the Swifty supporters had Blizzard by the balls. I know it sucks but what are they suppose to do.
All and all everyone should probably let it go. It is not worth getting your undies in a bunch. Maybe he got special treatment maybe he didn't. As long everyone minds their Ps and Qs and doesn't doing anything to get banned there is no reason to worry about who got special treatment or not.
Ah cool. Yeah it sucks and is special treatment, but as has already been said the guy had too much power for bizzard to make it permanant. Yeah this does mean certain people can do whatever they like and get away with it but I'm sure blizzard is no happier about this than anyone else.Xalmgrey said:
I bet if a regular player took down 3 servers for any real amount of time, blizzard could prove pre-meditation and they could track that user in real life it wouldn't just be a ban but probably a loss of earnings and money spent repairing it all law suit.
It's annoying but people like that usually always push past what they can get away with and then it all comes down on them.
Totally agree with you man. Regular Joe would most likely get sued pretty quick for disrupting game play which is the revenue for the game. I'm not one of those people that think this will change much at all really. But being informed never hurt anyone either right? If just one person thinks about what was said here when they go to purchase a blizzard product then really it has been a success of awareness.cookyy2k said:
Honestly, I think I'm with Blizzard on this one. If this guy is popular enough to have a bunch of people rally against his ban, a good chunk of the community must want him to stay. That's reason enough to bend the rules a little bit.