That's my problem with WoW, the subscription makes the gaming feel forced, as I feel guilty for not using the time with it properly. So either I'm playing it for full, or I'm not playing at all.
Blizzard Talks Free-To-Play World of Warcraft
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Free? I'd sure as hell renew my account. With my brother.
I can also imagine that the WoW subscribers would rise up 500%. That'd be 60.000.000 people, eh?
That's a lot of servers that need taking care of than... Can't be healthy towards their economy in the long run.
I can also imagine that the WoW subscribers would rise up 500%. That'd be 60.000.000 people, eh?
That's a lot of servers that need taking care of than... Can't be healthy towards their economy in the long run.
I like how over half the replies here seem to have forgotten to actually read the article and just read the titles.
WoW is not going free to play until it completely loses it fan base and title to other games or itself with the new MMO it is working on. The games that saw a raise in funds are the ones who's player base had dwindled down to almost nothing.
Also, the idea that SW:ToR is going to kill WoW is stupid. Yes, it will be popular, very freaking popular. It will not however kill or end WoW. The idea that the majority of the population is going to cancel there subscriptions and never return is laughable. Some people will switch, a lot of people will try and decide it's not worth it, and the most will pay for both.
"But kagim! No on will pay $30 a month for video games!"
Yes. They will. People spend hundreds a week on things just as meaningless. The idea that no one would ever pay for two mmo's because some people are vocal about it is naive.
I'm getting tired of all the "X is totally going to kill Y"
No. It won't happen. It's not going to happen. Something can be popular without 'killing' every other game in the market.
Remember DoW
Remember Star Trek Online.
Remember how WoW is still going strong.
Look at ghost. It was shelved despite the fact even if they released a shitty generic game they would make a buttload of money. They choose quality over money. When they feel Diablo 3 has enough meat on it to be a great game that will stand the test of time it will be out in stores.
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WoW is not going free to play until it completely loses it fan base and title to other games or itself with the new MMO it is working on. The games that saw a raise in funds are the ones who's player base had dwindled down to almost nothing.
Also, the idea that SW:ToR is going to kill WoW is stupid. Yes, it will be popular, very freaking popular. It will not however kill or end WoW. The idea that the majority of the population is going to cancel there subscriptions and never return is laughable. Some people will switch, a lot of people will try and decide it's not worth it, and the most will pay for both.
"But kagim! No on will pay $30 a month for video games!"
Yes. They will. People spend hundreds a week on things just as meaningless. The idea that no one would ever pay for two mmo's because some people are vocal about it is naive.
I'm getting tired of all the "X is totally going to kill Y"
No. It won't happen. It's not going to happen. Something can be popular without 'killing' every other game in the market.
Remember DoW
Remember Star Trek Online.
Remember how WoW is still going strong.
You do know that Diablo 3, starcraft 2 and WoW all have there own independent separate divisions. That all three divisions are being worked on constantly, and that blizzard has a tendency to delay anything they don't consider top notch work and are not afraid of pushing back dates despite complaining fans. They also have a tendency to not announce a single bloody thing until they are absolutely sure something is happening with the IP.igissx said:
Look at ghost. It was shelved despite the fact even if they released a shitty generic game they would make a buttload of money. They choose quality over money. When they feel Diablo 3 has enough meat on it to be a great game that will stand the test of time it will be out in stores.
Also... Using... lots... of... ellipses... is... kinda... annoying... to... read... Try... using... Paragraphs... to... separate... ideas... it... is... easier.. to... read.. then... a... bunch.. o...f... words... separated... by.. ellipses...
Mam!? Why you!Zeithri said:
I'm quite well versed in WoW lore. At least the kind from the games, I do not appreciate books written in for established videogame-related worlds for my own biased reasons.
I suppose yes, the lore was "not broken" in the vanilla WoW if only in sense that they avoided touching - or at least, avoided making weekly loot bags - out of big established heroic figures previously shown in Warcraft 3.
The whole business with Illidan (and Maiev... ) is just embarrassing.
Aside from those complaints - namely, having to kill Illidan and his crew, and having that maniacal ***** Maiev turned into some kind of a saint, I've got no problem with presented in-game lore in WoW. It all fits more or less okay with the strategy games, and Burning Crusade had amazing landscapes and creatures that I still miss.
As main story goes, it's just a mediocre fantasy - you can't expect much from it. Most fantasy series, books or games, are pretty shitty when it comes to deeply thinking over them. The whole genre is based on some pretty idiotic notions. It's funny saying it despite being a big fantasy nerd and hopefully an upcoming fiction writer, but you've gotta face it.
Well, whatever. You have your opinion and I'll have mine. Although frankly I still don't see how the lore wasn't broken - all the limitations of MMOs in relation to ongoing stories still existed in the vanilla version, we just didn't care about it because only lesser known figures were featured in the game as loot bags.
Quick! People! Stop playing wow for a week, and save poor suckers like me the trouble of sub fees!
Why do people assume that Free-to-Play system is somehow better?Captain Pancake said:
When you have F2P, all you get for free is shit. Look at DDO - some of the best quests have to be bought. Extra races and classes have to be unlocked or bought - and without any bought content, it's going to be forever until you unlock them.
Why would you want to avoid paying some change every month when it means you'll have to pay a withered husk of the game?
You don't know how to mmo,I joined wow and then just met people, all you need to do is be friendly to the people on your server or be a massive troll that everyone still loves. Playing an mmo with friend limits you to playing with them most of the time.BboyTeddyBear said:
"What the hell you out leveled me!"
"You weren't on."
"But we are friends we should be leveling together, now wait for me to catch up!!"
Then you impatiently wait 2 hours for their scrub ass to catch up to you.
Because "a little change" for me is almost all of my available money, and for all I enjoy WoW I really don't have the money to support it. Mull that over before jumping down my throat next time.Billion Backs said:
That's called having a job, buddy. I'm not exactly rolling in cash either - especially not with upcoming student loan debt, but it's still 15 dollars. That's like, what, 2 dinners at McDonalds? Some 3 or 4 slices of pizza and pop? Ridiculous.Captain Pancake said:
And my argument about playing a gray withered husk of a game still stands. Would you really find it so much fun to play WoW when 2/3 of the instances have to be bought, and thus most gear and high-experience quests unavailable? Of course, there's no proof that they would restrict instances like that - but Dungeons and Dragons Online, with their quests being more or less an equivalent of a dungeon, did exactly that. Sure, they have infinitely more "dungeons" then WoW in that sense, but most of the good ones, with interesting stories, good loot, and fun content have to be BOUGHT.
Same goes for two of the best races, overall stat-wise, and 2 classes, both of which are pretty cool and unique. If WoW goes free, why wouldn't the same thing happen? Would it be fun grinding boars, for free, when you can group up with (hopefully) friends and not-pants-on-head-retardeds and do a shiny dungeon for shiny loot?
Wow won't get killed my swtor, it just won't happen.igissx said:
Blizzard has 3 franchises people demand more of Diablo, Starcraft, and Warcraft. They are not milking these names as people are practically begging them for these games. So it is not like Nintendo where they keep giving us games and half of the time you don't buy it till then next one is out.
Edit: You don't see them making more "The Lost Vikings" games because people don't want them so much. Also taking 11+ years between games is not milking every cent out that is considered a godsend by most.
Lastly, ellipses are the most annoying and grammatically incorrect thing to use, granted they do work rather well in some cases to build somewhat of a dramatic effect but constant use instead of hitting the enter button twice is a huge dick move on your part.
Would be smart move with all the MMO's coming out. Loads of competition for Blizzard even with it's popularity
It's really more a thesis statement honestly.igissx said:
An essay is generally at least two or three pages while what i wrote was more in terms of how one could start an essay by briefly outlining what i would later go into detail.
The only thing that can honestly kill WoW is itself. Other games can become very popular and rival wows numbers, but WoW isn't suddenly going to have over half its population drop.
I'm a fan of star wars, and so far the MMO looks like a disappointment to me, however like a rational person i reserve true judgment for when i actually play them game in beta or a trial. After reading how DoW was killing to kill WoW, and Aion was going to kill WoW, and star trek online was going to kill WoW, and ended up not even being a threatening shake of a stick.
I doubt it will truly happen.
Yeah, they could have added a few more classes, if they wanted to spend the next 3 years re-balancing all of the new classes and the old ones (see the Death Knight which took most of WoTLK to get satisfactorily balanced).darkonnis said:
The whining would be near bottomless if they were to add more classes, though I would love to see another hero class(Maybe Necromancer now that the Lich King has kicked the bucket).tautologico said:
Really, though, you jus thave to visit the WoW forums to realise that new MMO's aren't going to peel away the core players.
As much as the constant QQ can be annoying, it's a sign that the game is still reasonably healthy. It would be much more telling if general were to become quiet.
I don't understand how they could possibly make WoW free. With all the GMs and massive amount of servers, I don't see it being possible for the game ever being free? How could they afford to keep the game running with the cost? Seriously $16.00 a month isn't very expensive (even though I wouldn't pay it, I dislike WoW) and the fact people are complaining about that is well, ridiculous in my opinion.