That's easy. She was offended based on her own opinion/beliefs.Bob_McMillan said:
I touched on this in my post several pages ago. I think this is the important point in this entire conversation, though I think I am coming at it from a different point of view than you. I am not particularly concerned about the fact that Blizzard is making the change. What bothers me is the reasoning behind the original complaint and the initial, unthinking response Blizzard gave that basically endorsed the line of thinking as valid and correct.Sexual Harassment Panda said:
The original complaint came from a man btw. That normally wouldn't matter, but this guy conveniently omitted that fact when using his daughter to divert attention from what his real motivations could be. Usually when someone points to their kids in that way, it's accompanied by a phrase like "I'm a [father|mother] of [child] and..." That wasn't the case here, and subsequently everyone assumed the complaint was coming from a woman, giving it more legitimacy in the eyes of the game director and initial supporters.Yuuki said:
That's a stretch, you are asserting that it is usually accompanied by the phrase mother or father, but that's basically just an assumption to support your interpretation that his lack of mention over his gender was deliberate. I've seen these types of complaints before without the parent identifying their sex, both from mothers and fathers, I work with kids and parents, and usually such things are not some obfuscation tactic.Cati said:
Honestly, I think this whole mess happened because Jeff Kaplan wanted to show the world how progressive and inclusive he was. I think the developers were already talking about changing the pose to begin with for entirely different reasons (they felt like the pose didn't fit the character). Instead of quietly swapping the animations around, Kaplan decided instead to make a big deal about the change and the reasons behind it. He was trying to make himself look good, only for the community to call him out on it.BoogieManFL said:
Uhh, not exactly "entirely different reasons" when the original complaint also said one of the reasons they were complaining about Tracer but not Widowmaker was that they felt the pose didn't fit the character.SlumlordThanatos said:
Jeff Kaplan himself said that this was a change the dev/art team had already decided to make a while ago. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and take his word on it. Minor artistic decision, adjustment made, job done, no biggie, move on.SlumlordThanatos said:
Yes, YES!! If they had said that this was the reason for it, or if they had said nothing about it, some people would've complained about it. But that's it! No shitstorm!Yuuki said:
...But instead, the director wanted to toot his own horn and show the whole world about how progressive and inclusive he and his team was being, throwing his art and animation teams under the bus while he was at it. The decision might have been a group effort, but if you ask me, the entire shitstorm can be blamed on one person: Jeff Kaplan. In his eagerness to pat himself on the back, he failed to consider that altering content for sketchy reasons would touch a nerve in the gaming community.
The backlash is warranted at this point. Socjus, and puritanical views towards sexuality are becoming all the more pervasive among devs and journalists in the gaming industry. In large part though, the majority of gamers either don't care or are in disagreement with many of these sentiments. So when the media and other devs over amplify the vocal minority of people who advocate for these kind of things, the majority have realized they have to have a vocal backlash against it for their opinions on the subject to be heard at all. There isn't a large voice in media speaking for view points of the majority so a good chunk of gamers have realized they have to speak up every time they see something they don't like. This leads to problems like every nontroversy getting turned into a battlefield but this is what happens when you use media to isolate unpopular opinions.Yuuki said:
I think whether someone appears "offended" or not isn't really the issue in these sort of things. The thing people care about is just whether you're going to complain or not. Usually being "offended" and complaining correlate highly. But no always.Pluvia said:
