In [current year] [current country]? Well...yeah. At least I live in a culture in which "normal" dancing one would expect in any nightclub between otherwise anonymous partners is straight-up, no-bullshit, dry humping. Let's maintain a sense of perspective, here.Dgezar said:
Honestly not saying much with the ass cleavage honestly. My girlfriend wore leggings in high school to get around the dress code and if she wasn't wearing a skirt over it you could easily see the same stuff...was never any kind of invitation like that at that point in time for anyone involved. I mean, hell, I grew up with the girls around me wearing things just as revealing and even moreso because it was hot as fuck all the damn time.Dgezar said:
To me, that's the crux of the issue. Female sexuality is still in such a jacked-up state in contemporary society it's best "understood" (read, societally enforced) as a strict dichotomy. "You're either celibate or a whore". Blizzard's decision that in my opinion, considering the circumstances and stated justification, does nothing in the end but perpetuate that gender stereotype. It's genuine misogyny, and in the end more harmful to women as a class than good.Redryhno said:
Except, as like 40 other people have probably said, there ARE male characters doing literally the same thing. This person IS ruining parts of a game, forcing them to remove a pose that a lot of other character do because "it offends them."The Rogue Wolf said:
As much as I think this removal is pretty damn (pants on head) stupid. I'm going to need an explanation as to how this guy was "forcing" the devs to remove it. All I've seen is one post on a forum saying he thinks it had a negative impact on his daughter (I can't say I agree but thats that). If this is forcing then Blizzard is one of the most weak willed companies I've ever seen.Qizx said:
But then arn't they just changing a product they're selling to better suit their audience? Don't get me wrong I think them removing this pose from this character but leaving it for others (male and female) is stupid but again I don't think it's too much of an issue. If anything I would lie the blame with the devs here. Taking it out because a very small group of people (I've still only seen one, but I havn't followed this story closely tbh) was a very knee jerk reaction. Particularly when you look at the criticisms leveled at WoW theses days and how reluctant Blizzard is to address them.Qizx said:
Not to be rude, but just about everyone in this thread is talking purely about what they want.SecondPrize said:
There's a difference between wanting something and wanting what everyone gets to be tuned to what you yourself want. I don't want a lot of things, that doesn't mean I feel others shouldn't have them.erttheking said:
You know, the problem with this is that everyone is looking at it as a zero sum game. That everything ever taken out of a game is a loss. Even if it just didn't fit or didn't work. This is a pose that, frankly, didn't really mean much and is going to be replaced. People who are buying the game are not going to be getting an incomplete experience, just an ironed out one. Hell, the pose will probably be similar to the last one, just with some changes here and there.SecondPrize said:
It is a loss for someone. There's some Tracer player out there who selected that pose out of all the options they had and was happy with it. Then there's everyone else who did not. The difference here is this Fipps guy wasn't happy with merely doing that, he wanted the Tracer player who liked the pose to not have it. It's bullshit.erttheking said:
Yeah okay that's cool and all but guess what? Blizzard themselves decided that they didn't want Tracers butt pose to be enjoyed by everyone. Not the person who made the thread. If Blizzard thought it was dumb than they would of ignored it like everything else they deem irrelevant to complain about.SecondPrize said:
