Bon Jovi Backs Courtney Love Against Guitar Hero 5 Cameos

[JediMB]

God if they put Robbie Williams in a Guitar Hero game I'm going to cry.

Namida wa kore de fuitoke!

 

[findler]

I can see why they're upset. And Activision is being short sighted. Sure they're going to make gobs of money but what happens when artists see how they are ignoring these people and decided 'no, they will not have my songs' for Guitar Hero Umpteen?

I don't know if that would even be the artist's decision. The record companies own the rights to all the songs, so they would be the ones giving it to video games like guitar hero.

 

[John Funk]

Nobody cared about John Lennon and George Harrison when EA did it, so what's the fuss all about now?

I dunno apparently it's a sin against music to have a digital representation of someone who's been dead for over a decade singing music he was idealistically against in life.

Nevermind the fact that if I wanted to I could make Tom Morello and Slash play some horrible Linkin Park song on GH III. Granted neither of them are dead but that's besides the point. The point being that Kurt's former bandmates and widow are claiming outrage over something they signed over in the first place.

And nobody made this big a deal over Jimi Hendrix in World Tour. Nobody.

the difference is, Hendrix could conceivably have played any of the songs, since a guitar is a guitar is a guitar. Hearing someone else's voice come out of your character model has to be a bit unsettling.

 

[findler]

And nobody made this big a deal over Jimi Hendrix in World Tour. Nobody.

That's because Jimi Hendrix didn't have a fucking leech attached to him. I don't think there is something that happened in the past 15 years at all be it CD releases or DVD compilations that Courtney Love didn't protest and demand money for.

 

[Aeryn Seoung]

Namida wa kore de fuitoke!

wakarimasen lol

 

[Chipperz]

I really do not see the problem? Am I missing something? What is actually wrong wtih having him in the game? I think its quite cool actually, i'd pick Cobain to be in my band (or to play as).

Good for Activision in my opinion, clearly BJ and others are just being stupid. They'll get over it.

Truer words where never said.
I'm pretty neutral when it comes to these things but the Nirvana fan in me tells me that Activision should respect the wishes of Courtney Love, Dave Grohl etc. The ass inside me says they should suck it up and realise it's not really a big deal.

I'm fairly certain the wishes of Courtney Love were to be payed lots of money to put Kurt Cobain into Guitar Hero 5. It'd go in with the whole "killing him for the money" thing she has going on. This latest outburst of hers against the whole thing is from one of the few moments of lucidity she's had since she dropped him like a bad habit when she woke up, encrusted in her own filth and buckets of trucker semen, and realised that she'd signed a contract that made her complete contempt of the man public in an even more spectacular (or at least provable...) fashion than a double-barrel to the roof of the mouth.

To be honest, the only people who care now are the people who still adamantly believe that Nirvana was all about the music, and that them selling out and signing up to a record label was done ironically...

 

[Nuke_em_05]

1. Courtney Love signed off on it and even helped design the model.
2. No one has complained of any other playable dead people.
3. Activision would be making gobs of money without it.
4. Only an idoit signs something without reading it or understanding it.
5. You know, Activision probably paid Courtney gobs of money for the right to use his image. Even if not, she wants gobs of money for them using it under a contract that she agreed to.

But, you know, whatever, down with Corporate America! Up with (albeit rich) white-trash unsubstantiated lawsuits!

Also, it's about a guy who used to make gobs of money plucking strings and yelling at magnets, who happened to kill himself, and is now in a game where people pretend to be people making gobs of money plucking strings and yelling at microphones, without killing themselves. If anything, to be more true to his character, the model should off themself upon completion of the campaign.

Or we could all quit bitching about ridiculous things.

 

[Sulu]

People should stop freaking out about Nirvana. They really weren't very good anyway..didn't they only have one album?

 

[theApoc]

Dear morons,

There is no such thing as a "tragic suicide". You can be tragically "murdered", or have a tragic "accident", but suicide is a choice not a tragedy. Had he continued to live, been miserable and then died. You could have said he lived a tragic life, but the fact that he was too much of a coward to continue making millions of dollars, creating music that people liked, and be a father to his child, is not even the least bit tragic.

He made OK music, he was a moderately talented songwriter, but that is the extent of his contribution to society. Love, Bob Jovi, and the rest of you nut jobs need to get over it, revel in the fact that he is even remembered and move on...

 

[The Rockerfly]

Nobody cared about John Lennon and George Harrison when EA did it, so what's the fuss all about now?

I dunno apparently it's a sin against music to have a digital representation of someone who's been dead for over a decade singing music he was idealistically against in life.

Nevermind the fact that if I wanted to I could make Tom Morello and Slash play some horrible Linkin Park song on GH III. Granted neither of them are dead but that's besides the point. The point being that Kurt's former bandmates and widow are claiming outrage over something they signed over in the first place.

And nobody made this big a deal over Jimi Hendrix in World Tour. Nobody.

the difference is, Hendrix could conceivably have played any of the songs, since a guitar is a guitar is a guitar. Hearing someone else's voice come out of your character model has to be a bit unsettling.

For the record Jimi could sing and have different voices come out his mouth
Seriously though it is kindof ridiculous, they should have read what they signed

 

[ace_of_something]

I can see why they're upset. And Activision is being short sighted. Sure they're going to make gobs of money but what happens when artists see how they are ignoring these people and decided 'no, they will not have my songs' for Guitar Hero Umpteen?

I don't know if that would even be the artist's decision. The record companies own the rights to all the songs, so they would be the ones giving it to video games like guitar hero.

Recording contracts are more complex than that. In a lot of cases you're right but more recent acts have become savvy to such things because they watched enough 'behind the music' specials to know to be careful with contracts. Many artists have no rights to the song until X amount of years after the single is released or so many records are sold. Some retain full or partial rights. Meaning the record company can make deals to sell the song but not without their permission or without giving them heaping loads of cash.

It can be really complicated. I just didn't feel the need to elaborate on that when making the point. "don't piss off the people you're making money off of"

 

[ae86gamer]

All of these people are overreacting. Courtney Love signed off on everything and allowed for them to put Kurt Cobain in the game.

They shouldn't blame Activision, they should blame Courtney Love.

 

[electric_warrior]

she's just worried that the digitised kurt will crawl out of the screen and take his vengeance.

 

[ace_of_something]

Dear morons,

There is no such thing as a "tragic suicide". You can be tragically "murdered", or have a tragic "accident", but suicide is a choice not a tragedy. Had he continued to live, been miserable and then died. You could have said he lived a tragic life, but the fact that he was too much of a coward to continue making millions of dollars, creating music that people liked, and be a father to his child, is not even the least bit tragic.

The suicide is tragic for the people it leaves behind not the person who died. Despite your feelings about people who kill themselves when they do there is a good chance
someone loved them
called them a friend
called them 'dad'

Those are the people it's tragic for.

People should stop freaking out about Nirvana. They really weren't very good anyway..didn't they only have one album?

Three studio albums that invented a new style of music.

edit: just to be clear I think Ms. Love doesn't legally have a leg to stand on and I don't see the problem with him being in the game.

 

[Doug]

Activision should stop being idiots and respect the wishes of his family/past band members.
What imbeciles.

How about the fact that Courtney Love SIGNED A DAMN CONTRACT. Seriously, just because she's pumped it into her arms via drugs, doesn't mean its right for her to say 'oh I wanna change my mind after a legal contract'.

Frankly, odds are this is all a marketing plot by Activison - no-one gave a shit about Guitar Hero 5 with the Beatles Rock Band coming out so soon, and now they'll ignore this for a week before 'respecting the wishes of the family' and removing him; at this point, all the copies of Guitar Hero 5 rotting on the shelves with what's-his-face in will sell out inside of 3 days. Courtney Love and the former members of that band, surprise surpise, would finanicially benefit from such a situation.

 

[Doug]

That, of course, will never happen. Activision is making handfuls of cash off of the rotted corpse of Cobain and short of a nocturnal visit from a trio of Dickensian ghosts, I don't see the firm's higher ups changing their mind.

From a contract Courtney Love signed. AND THEN SHE HELPED THEM MAKE THE MODEL. Seriously, I don't like Activison, AT ALL, but this time I have to say they are in the right this one time.

If she didn't want Cobain the coward in the game, she shouldn't have signed the contract and helped them design his model.

http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2009/08/27/kurt-cobain-joins-guitar-hero-5-how-nirvana-came-to-the-game/

 

[Monshroud]

To all the Bon Jovi haters out there. I am not a big fan of Bon Jovi, but I do respect what they have done.

From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon_Jovi

Throughout their career, the band has released ten studio albums, two compilation albums and one live album; and have sold over 120 million albums worldwide. They have performed more than 2,600 concerts in over 50 countries for more than 34 million fans. In 2006 Bon Jovi were inducted into the UK Music Hall of Fame, and in 2004 they were ranked number 14 in Q magazine's 50 Greatest Bands of All Time. The band was also honored with the Award Of Merit at the American Music Awards in 2004.

I kinda doubt JBJ needs publicity... You may not like his music, but the fact is they still sell millions of records and pack their concerts.

EDIT OT: I agree with what other people said, Courtney should have made sure how Kurt's image was going to be used before she signed away the image rights.

 

[73loup]

People should stop freaking out about Nirvana. They really weren't very good anyway..didn't they only have one album?

They had 3 major albums, 1 live album (their best in my opinion), and one that contained fan-oriented material (radio performances, demos, etc.) and then there were all the random compilations and whatnot after-the-fact.

And no, I'm not a Nirvana fanboy, I just grew up in the midst of all this.