Borderland question?

[Tarkand]

I rented Borderland when I had a long time friend comes from out of state (well, province) for the holidays and figured it would be an interesting way to kill an evening or two.

60'' TV, so the 'split-screen' really isn't that much of an issue.

And well... I don't know if it's something we were doing wrong or maybe we just suck... but man is this game boring >_>.

Not that far in the game (we were trying to find mine keys from that Skeet(sp) guy), we got to a point where all the quests we could find were a few level higher than us and rated 'Tough'. And well, they were. Seemed no matter which one we tried to do, we ended up in the same situation:

- Head shot target. Critical!
- Watch target's health drop by about 1/20th.
- Target shoot you once, your shield is gone. Shoot you twice, you're a 10 hp.
- You take cover. Wait for shield to come back up.
- Take pot shot at target's head and emtpy a freaking clip in it.
- Target finally dies.

What fun and interesting gameplay! It goes even worse if there was more than one guy.

Heck, at the end we mainly used Incendiary weapon, because of the 'damage over time' component made the whole 'shoot them in the face and hide' tactic works that much better (Also used a Electrical gun to remove the shield first).

Won't get you started on the arena, which had those heavily armored dog things which we'd litterally run out of ammo trying to kill... doesn't seem right for a monster one level above you to take that much damage before it dies.

Like I said... maybe we just suck, but the fact that headshots do an abysmal amount of damage makes me think the problem isn't with our ability to aim properly, but rather with the game's combat engine...

And this is the game everybody is raving about? I'm fairly convince we went at it wrong somehow... but where?

 

[CoverYourHead]

So, let me see if I understand this... You decided to hunt enemies rated "tough" and are complaining because the game is difficult?

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[Xvito]

What!?

Borderlands is easy as hell! It's one of the easiest games that I've ever played. How could anyone have any trouble with it?

 

[Maze1125]

You were trying to fight enemies that were too high of a level.
Most likely you missed some optional lower level quests, or simply didn't kill enough things when you were a lower level.

 

[Susano]

How many quests did you do? If you hardly did any, you're probably under levelled, and there's your problem.

 

[Cherry Cola]

The game is challenging, and if you'd rather have enemies die from an instant headshot then this isn't really your game.

 

[zauxz]

"Tough"- Demanding or troubling; difficult

 

[Tarkand]

What!?

Borderlands is easy as hell! It's one of the easiest games that I've ever played. How could anyone have any trouble with it?

I was expecting replies like that. Like I said - you shoot the guy in the head 10 times and he's at half health. Not quite sure how being 'better' would really change anything here. Unless there's some better spot than the head to shoot at.

How many quests did you do? If you hardly did any, you're probably under levelled, and there's your problem.

Couldn't find anything else than what we had. I'm assuming we missed a (or half a dozen) quest hub somewhere, but shouldn't the game in some way point us toward those or is wandering aimlessly on the map until you find something to do part of the 'fun' here?

As for 'higher level'... we were level 14, and the monster were level 15. Now, that's a 1 level difference, which from pretty much every rpg or level based game I've ever played, isn't supposed to be that big of a deal.

We figured our guns maybe to low level/quality (They were white or green between level 10 and 12, since all the blue/purple we found were like level 5 and despite their better quality, had worse stats.)... but heh, nobody sold better. Although after killing about a dozen ubermensch in some random spot of the map, we got an assault rifle and a shotgun that were level 24... yeah, much good that did us.

 

[Tarkand]

The game is challenging, and if you'd rather have enemies die from an instant headshot then this isn't really your game.

Well, I can understand not dying from an instant headshot. I remember playing Max Payne at max difficulty back in the day and shooting a russian guy point blank in the face with a shot gun and he didn't die.

That's fine, it's a game.

It's when you empty a full clip in their face and you than need to reload and empty another half in order for them to die that I go 'COME ON!'. >_>

I don't mind games being difficult (I did beat NG, NG2 and Viewtful Joe back in the days)... but this is just dumb. By playing smart, we could win... but watching a Bruiser's health tick down until he dies for like 5 minutes isn't fun.

 

[Susano]

What!?

Borderlands is easy as hell! It's one of the easiest games that I've ever played. How could anyone have any trouble with it?

I was expecting replies like that. Like I said - you shoot the guy in the head 10 times and he's at half health. Not quite sure how being 'better' would really change anything here. Unless there's some better spot than the head to shoot at.

How many quests did you do? If you hardly did any, you're probably under levelled, and there's your problem.

Couldn't find anything else than what we had. I'm assuming we missed a (or half a dozen) quest hub somewhere, but shouldn't the game in some way point us toward those are is wandering aimlessly on the map until you find something to do part of the 'fun' here?

As for 'higher level'... we were level 14, and the monster were level 15. Now, that's a 1 level difference, which from pretty much every rpg or level based game I've ever played, isn't supposed to be that big of a deal.

We figured our guns maybe to low level/quality (They were white or green between level 10 and 12, since all the blue/purple we found were like level 5 and despite their better quality, had worse stats.)... but heh, nobody sold better. Although after killing about a dozen ubermensch in some random spot of the map, we got an assault rifle and a shotgun that were level 24... yeah, much good that did us.

Maybe you're in the wrong area? To my knowledge, you're still in Fyresotne, right?
Have you talked to TK Baha and used the quest hub in Fyrestone?
If you have, I can't really help you apart from telling you to buy ammo from shops.
What classes are you using?

But yes, enemies usually take obscene amounts of ammo to die, there's no difference there.
Try hiding behind things, that might make it better.

 

[The DSM]

Its difficulty depends on.

A.) Gear quality.
and
B.)Class, the Bloodwing is near brokenly strong making the game easy and brick is the worst class in terms of action skill and is a master of close range, something you have to avoid.

I got generally good gear and was a solider, ammo and health was never an issue for me, I regenerate more ammo than I cna use with my Class mod.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[PxDn Ninja]

I rented Borderland when I had a long time friend comes from out of state (well, province) for the holidays and figured it would be an interesting way to kill an evening or two.

60'' TV, so the 'split-screen' really isn't that much of an issue.

And well... I don't know if it's something we were doing wrong or maybe we just suck... but man is this game boring >_>.

Not that far in the game (we were trying to find mine keys from that Skeet(sp) guy), we got to a point where all the quests we could find were a few level higher than us and rated 'Tough'. And well, they were. Seemed no matter which one we tried to do, we ended up in the same situation:

- Head shot target. Critical!
- Watch target's health drop by about 1/20th.
- Target shoot you once, your shield is gone. Shoot you twice, you're a 10 hp.
- You take cover. Wait for shield to come back up.
- Take pot shot at target's head and emtpy a freaking clip in it.
- Target finally dies.

What fun and interesting gameplay! It goes even worse if there was more than one guy.

Heck, at the end we mainly used Incendiary weapon, because of the 'damage over time' component made the whole 'shoot them in the face and hide' tactic works that much better (Also used a Electrical gun to remove the shield first).

Won't get you started on the arena, which had those heavily armored dog things which we'd litterally run out of ammo trying to kill... doesn't seem right for a monster one level above you to take that much damage before it dies.

Like I said... maybe we just suck, but the fact that headshots do an abysmal amount of damage makes me think the problem isn't with our ability to aim properly, but rather with the game's combat engine...

And this is the game everybody is raving about? I'm fairly convince we went at it wrong somehow... but where?

Your right, it isn't you. The game is depressingly boring and uninspired. Some people love it, and good for them, but I was with you. The controls felt odd, though with tweeking I'm sure I could have fixed it, but the game was boring after just a couple hours. No reason to want to continue.

Borderlands is all about the metagame, and getting new items. If that doesn't interest you, then spend your money elsewhere.

 

[evilartist]

You pretty much nailed the Arena part, but I found the game mostly easy--except for a bunch of bullshit moments, which obviously isn't the same thing as "challenge".

Some of my missions were misleadingly rated "Normal" or "Trivial," especially the ones with Sledge and Mothrakk. Those bastards were just irritating to fight. However, the sniper guy, with his ability to cut through shields, almost made the game too easy.

 

[Tarkand]

Maybe you're in the wrong area? To my knowledge, you're still in Fyresotne, right?
Have you talked to TK Baha and used the quest hub in Fyrestone?
If you have, I can't really help you apart from telling you to buy ammo from shops.
What classes are you using?

But yes, enemies usually take obscene amounts of ammo to die, there's no difference there.
Try hiding behind things, that might make it better.

We did do the quest for TK Baha.

The game started off relatively easy, did some quest against those scaly dogs thing, cleared out some bandits. For the most part we were steamrolling stuff and my friend was even commenting on how brain dead it was. Than we got to 9-toes, which got us our first death. Actually had to focus fire on him and his dogs rather than do our own thing, which was a lot of fun.

We completed a bunch of others 'easy' 'normal' 'trivial' quest (find the recording, etc) and than abruptly ran out of anything short of 'tough'. At that point the game became simply about whittling away at mountain of health and became boring very fast.

The annoying part to me was that the difference in difficulty isn't about the tactical component required to overcome it... but about how much more health each enemy has.

Oh, and we played Soldier (me) and Berseker (My friend) if that makes any difference.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

There's an 'S' in Borderlands. It would be a pretty short game if it were 'Borderland'.

You need to level up. Go do some sidequests.

 

[jark.jark]

But yes, enemies usually take obscene amounts of ammo to die, there's no difference there.
Try hiding behind things, that might make it better.

Wait till you get to the last boos. It took me half an hour by myself as I had ran out of every kind of ammo by the time it was down to one quater health. That was really dull.

 

[aarontg]

I played this game all the way through with a friend and we hit a problem like that every now and again but try to think of it as less a shooter and more of an rpg ( if only slightly) and I don't see how your too low level for these quests because we skipped some and we turned out fine all the way through the game, well that arena you were talking about gave me a hard time as well but their more like bosses right?

 

[SomebodyNowhere]

If you have two players and one of them is a soldier you shouldn't have too much of a problem killing things. I know it has been I while since I was at lower level but as long as you keep yourself well armed and shielded you can generally just plop down a turret and mow the opposition down.

When you get further in the game you'll find enemies that you do need to be more strategic about. The Crimson Lance are a ***** if you don't use corrosive and even when you do they can still kick your ass.

I suggest you arm yourself well, aim for the weak point on the enemy, and just hope he drops some good loot.