I do like Borderlands, but the series is starting to get a wee bit stale. 3 needs something to juice it up. Hope they can deliver
Borderlands 3 Abandons Last-Gen Consoles
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I never played BL 1 so I can't comment on that, but I really enjoyed BL 2 and the DLC, especially Assault on Dragon Keep. The pre-sequel....it's....well it's more Borderlands, that's about all I can say about it. You're right in that there isn't anything fundamentally different between it and BL 2. I find it enjoyable, but it hasn't grabbed me like BL 2 did. And it honestly feels like it's going on too long. I keep thinking I'm at the final chapter, and I'm not. The game is kind of wearing out it's welcome at this point. It's a fun game, and I enjoy playing as Fragtrap, but it's still kind of "eh."Baresark said:
As for BL 3 not going to old gen consoles, meh, I play it on PC, so I don't have any issue with this at all.
My only real problems with Borderlands are with the gunplay. There were a lot less slow-firing high-damage guns in 2, which was something I sorely missed because of the second problem, that recoil is way too hard to manage on consoles. Also, I dislike how RPGs always throw thousands of weapons at you like it's a good thing, when you're probably only going to use variations on about a dozen of them.
That said, I like the art style, I like Anthony Burch's humor, I like over-the-top, I like fighting enemies with specific weaknesses that incentivize you to change your playstyle, and I like the kinds of games designed to rope people in for thousands of hours, because I know I can get at least an hour per dollar out of them before I get bored.
So yeah, I'm interested in seeing what they do with next-gen abilities. They really don't need to update the graphics, so hopefully they can beef up the AI and the explosions.
That said, I like the art style, I like Anthony Burch's humor, I like over-the-top, I like fighting enemies with specific weaknesses that incentivize you to change your playstyle, and I like the kinds of games designed to rope people in for thousands of hours, because I know I can get at least an hour per dollar out of them before I get bored.
So yeah, I'm interested in seeing what they do with next-gen abilities. They really don't need to update the graphics, so hopefully they can beef up the AI and the explosions.
unlike just about everyone else I actually like Borderlands 1, 3, and Pre-Sequel. But I honestly can't think of what else the game can do. The game would greatly benefit by adding some Far Cry elements to it and that's the only thing I can think of :/
I just hope they don't kill anymore of the characters from the old cast, Maya and Lilith are too cool to die
I just hope they don't kill anymore of the characters from the old cast, Maya and Lilith are too cool to die
Well, at least it wasn't an MMO announcement. That would have been the kiss of death.
Still, as much as I've enjoyed some of the new additions to Borderlands: Midquel, it's been very underwhelming compared to BL2 (and that's excluding some of the more excellent DLC campaigns from BL2) so I'm...kinda hesitant.
BL3 is...I dunno. I have a feeling that it's going to be pretty damn underwhelming.
Or worse, one big DLC-cash grab with half the game gated off right from the start.
Assuming that doesn't happen...
-A FEW SUGGESTIONS FOR GEARBOX-
1) Fix shotguns PLEASE. Make it so that it's actually possible to do real damage with some of them past point-blank range again. I like boomsticks and sawed-off melee supplements just fine, but not an entire fucking category of them.
They don't need to be sniping weapons, but FFS, I should be able to maim someone more than 10 feet away from me.
2) Make revolvers feel like revolvers again.
2a) Seriously, why are the only true semi-auto handguns in the game the -revolvers- instead of regular pistols?
Make the repeaters semi-auto, and revolvers the awesome hand cannons they were in BL1.
3) PLEASE, un-nerf the damage on assault rifles. I never use them because Sniper Rifles get the job done more cleanly at range and SMGs do more damage at mid to close range with much better ammo-efficiency.
4) Provide the Dahl guns with a Select Fire option. Burst fire sniper rifles are fucking worthless with the current recoil physics, and that includes Dahl's superior recoil control. (I had to throw away a perfectly good Dahl railgun in Midquel because zoom-firing resulted in hilariously overpowered kick rendering the weapon incapable of hitting even a mid-range target more than once...and wasting about 20 ammo in the process.)
5) Torgue guns. The Gyro-Jet thing was amusing for a while, but I find myself selling every single Torgue gun I pick up because, ironically, the enemies move around too much for these weapons to be reliable. I like challenging skill-based weapons, but even then, the risk-reward of Gyro-Jet weaponry simply isn't worth the effort, 'EXPLOSIONS?!' or not.
6) Keep the laser weapons from Midquel. Those were actually pretty awesome.
7) STOP PUSHING HANDSOME JACK.
Killing him was satisfying because he was such an asshole. That was earned over the course of BL2.
But if you keep pushing Jack, you will wear out his welcome faster than you think.
After that, the difficulty of the game becomes entirely about the numbers, with very little having to do with player skill.
That's mainly because at that point, you have so many passive benefits from your skill trees that the game would be utterly trivial without it.
Really, the first playthrough is pretty well paced (especially BL2).
The main problem with "grind" only occurs if you're looking for Legendary gear, which sadly, is rather appealing because the most interesting stuff/effects in the game are attached almost exclusively to Legendaries and Uniques.
Still, as much as I've enjoyed some of the new additions to Borderlands: Midquel, it's been very underwhelming compared to BL2 (and that's excluding some of the more excellent DLC campaigns from BL2) so I'm...kinda hesitant.
BL3 is...I dunno. I have a feeling that it's going to be pretty damn underwhelming.
Or worse, one big DLC-cash grab with half the game gated off right from the start.
Assuming that doesn't happen...
-A FEW SUGGESTIONS FOR GEARBOX-
1) Fix shotguns PLEASE. Make it so that it's actually possible to do real damage with some of them past point-blank range again. I like boomsticks and sawed-off melee supplements just fine, but not an entire fucking category of them.
They don't need to be sniping weapons, but FFS, I should be able to maim someone more than 10 feet away from me.
2) Make revolvers feel like revolvers again.
2a) Seriously, why are the only true semi-auto handguns in the game the -revolvers- instead of regular pistols?
Make the repeaters semi-auto, and revolvers the awesome hand cannons they were in BL1.
3) PLEASE, un-nerf the damage on assault rifles. I never use them because Sniper Rifles get the job done more cleanly at range and SMGs do more damage at mid to close range with much better ammo-efficiency.
4) Provide the Dahl guns with a Select Fire option. Burst fire sniper rifles are fucking worthless with the current recoil physics, and that includes Dahl's superior recoil control. (I had to throw away a perfectly good Dahl railgun in Midquel because zoom-firing resulted in hilariously overpowered kick rendering the weapon incapable of hitting even a mid-range target more than once...and wasting about 20 ammo in the process.)
5) Torgue guns. The Gyro-Jet thing was amusing for a while, but I find myself selling every single Torgue gun I pick up because, ironically, the enemies move around too much for these weapons to be reliable. I like challenging skill-based weapons, but even then, the risk-reward of Gyro-Jet weaponry simply isn't worth the effort, 'EXPLOSIONS?!' or not.
6) Keep the laser weapons from Midquel. Those were actually pretty awesome.
7) STOP PUSHING HANDSOME JACK.
Killing him was satisfying because he was such an asshole. That was earned over the course of BL2.
But if you keep pushing Jack, you will wear out his welcome faster than you think.
The grind in any Borderlands game doesn't really begin until around late True-Vault-Hunter Mode.Alexander Kirby said:
After that, the difficulty of the game becomes entirely about the numbers, with very little having to do with player skill.
That's mainly because at that point, you have so many passive benefits from your skill trees that the game would be utterly trivial without it.
Really, the first playthrough is pretty well paced (especially BL2).
The main problem with "grind" only occurs if you're looking for Legendary gear, which sadly, is rather appealing because the most interesting stuff/effects in the game are attached almost exclusively to Legendaries and Uniques.
I hope this time they make the combat and overall shooting actually worth it
for an FPS that puts so much of its mechanics around the guns themselves, the combat felt more like a chore than actual combat, and every time I got into fights I just wanted to get them over with
for an FPS that puts so much of its mechanics around the guns themselves, the combat felt more like a chore than actual combat, and every time I got into fights I just wanted to get them over with
You're probably thinking of The Handsome Collection, which is Borderlands 2, The Pre-Sequel, and all their DLCs packaged together for the XBone and PS4 (and PCs too maybe, I dunno).Scarim Coral said:
But yeah, nothing about this really strikes me as news. Of course there would have been some work being done for a Borderlands 3, the series makes far too much money for Gearbox, hell work for it probably started when the second came out. And naturally they'd abandon the 360/PS3, we're about a year or so into the latest cycle. By the time BL3 would likely come out, the cycle would be two or three years in, and by that point no one would be making anything for the 360/PS3.
Coming soon to PS4/XBone Borderlands: Destiny edition.
::imagines Peter Dinklage doing a deadpan Claptrap:: They could do worse.
::imagines Peter Dinklage doing a deadpan Claptrap:: They could do worse.
I wonder who they suckered out of money this time.
For where there's a Borderlands release there is a shit tacular game right behind it.
For where there's a Borderlands release there is a shit tacular game right behind it.
I hope they make melee less shitty for melee based chars (maybe add specific melee weapons instead of awkwardly let some guns add bonus damage?) so that games version of zero won't drift into irrelevancy the further the game progresses and make the active skills more gun related so like instead of just plopping down a standard turret/drone that is always the same, that turret uses the gun you got equipped so you can have pistol/shotgun/rocketlauncher turrets.
Also less goddamn time limited kill skills that activate something that would have greatly helped me kill something right after I managed to kill it and only stay up against stuff I don't need it against.
The only useful one is increased reload speed after killing something!
It's the only one that makes sense since you emptied a clip into an enemy to kill it.
More diverse procs like "when hitting an enemy" instead of "after killing an enemy" please.
Especially for the multiplayer with its bullet spongy enemies and kill stealing teammates!
Oh also please no more bullshit damage reduction because that enemy is 2 levels above you on top of a high weapon damage raise per level and how dare you attempt to shorten the grind anyway???
I want a high risk high reward quick way to level up instead of having the game sit me down and make me do 2 more sidequests.
The only way to speedrun borderlands 2 is through heavy glitch abuse and fuck that.
Also less goddamn time limited kill skills that activate something that would have greatly helped me kill something right after I managed to kill it and only stay up against stuff I don't need it against.
The only useful one is increased reload speed after killing something!
It's the only one that makes sense since you emptied a clip into an enemy to kill it.
More diverse procs like "when hitting an enemy" instead of "after killing an enemy" please.
Especially for the multiplayer with its bullet spongy enemies and kill stealing teammates!
Oh also please no more bullshit damage reduction because that enemy is 2 levels above you on top of a high weapon damage raise per level and how dare you attempt to shorten the grind anyway???
I want a high risk high reward quick way to level up instead of having the game sit me down and make me do 2 more sidequests.
The only way to speedrun borderlands 2 is through heavy glitch abuse and fuck that.
