BOTH New Xbox and PS4 Will Be Shown At E3

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JoesshittyOs

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AT God said:
Didn't Sony say that the PS3 wasn't going anywhere less than a year ago? Also, I avoided this generation of consoles so I don't know if it has changed, do games still run at 30fps? The framerate issues and the lack of effective modding tools are key reasons I haven't gone back to consoles.
Huh? Console games were able to run faster than 30 FPS. CoD alone ran at 60, and I'm quite sure other games have gone higher.
 

zombieshark6666

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I think it's kinda pointless. They'll just try to impress with funky graphics and effects. The gameplay will be the same and the performance will probably be pretty bad because they'll be pushing the hardware just as much. If there are many exclusives, that might create some action, though.
 

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In before people saying it's too soon.

It's not, if anything it's overdue.

The PC platform is suffering because of it (having to lower graphics in games in order to make it cross platform), and Console gaming is suffering from having to make graphical sacrifices in order to push dated hardware to keep a consistent graphical push, such as 720p only support, lack of anti aliasing, lower res shadows, and the game playing in thirty frames, rather than sixty.

Not wanting a new systems because of financial reasons is irrelevant, you can't stop progress at the end of the day.
you do know graphics aren't really that important to the over all game right? cause to be honest I'd rather they sacrificed graphics if it means the rest of it may not suck.

which they won't, it'll be all about the graphics again cause people are easy to fool like that.
so rejoice!! you'll get your pretty but empty cash in games.
Graphics help immersion their's no denying it, and new technology also improves limitations. So that new ideas can flourish, and others can be improved upon. We might even see a larger digital distribution service on consoles for example.

Just because a game has great graphics doesn't mean it's terrible in the gameplay department at all.

The prospect for a new generation is exciting, and I personally am looking forward to all of the great games that the next gen will bring.
 

Josh123914

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GeorgW said:
(how did Skyrim work on PS3 again?)
It didn't. or at least a good part of it. even aside from obvious lag problems there were other bugs which were big problems.
I don't know where this is PS3 glitch thing is coming from, I have finished the main Skyrim campaign and have walked to all major cities bar Markarth and I haven't walked into any glitches-- maybe I'm justvreally lucky that way.
 

AT God

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JoesshittyOs said:
Huh? Console games were able to run faster than 30 FPS. CoD alone ran at 60, and I'm quite sure other games have gone higher.
But do they still lag down? Not from connection issues but the hardware its self? I know the PC isn't exempt from this problem but altering the graphics can usually fix it. I can't stand low fps, its just something that bothers me.
 

NotSoLoneWanderer

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I always like when new consoles come out. I can go through the last gen consoles library of now cheap games. Still digging through PS2 gold.
 

kahlzun

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I think they will prolly have backwards compat, they got a real s-storm when they took it out last time..
 

TK421

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I only have one thing to say about this.
[HEADING=1] Fuck That Shit.[/HEADING]
Seriously why do they have to keep pumping out new systems every couple of years? We are to the point now that they won't be much better than our current ones, and I am not paying another $400-$600 just so I can continue enjoying games.
 

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Jazoni89 said:
Graphics help immersion their's no denying it, and new technology also improves limitations. So that new ideas can flourish, and others can be improved upon. We might even see a larger digital distribution service on consoles for example.

Just because a game has great graphics doesn't mean it's terrible in the gameplay department at all.

The prospect for a new generation is exciting, and I personally am looking forward to all of the great games that the next gen will bring.
i've got games older then most the people on this forum that would like a word about that 'better graphics = immersion' thing, and your right, good graphics doesn't mean bad over all game. but that's what they're going to be selling, the graphics. that is what the 'great innovation' they will likely be pushing. that and a 'good reason' the jack up the prince for new games.

while I'd like to hold out hope the next generation of games will be better, i can't. just don't see a reason to be excited about a new system that premisses more of the same, only prettier.
 

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Well, I'm not sure, I want to welcome the new systems, but we know literally NOTHING about them. We can't condemn or praise something we know nothing about, so lets just leave it at that until we hear more at E3.
 

Vault101

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uggghh...really? I was hoping they would wait a while longer...
 

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As long as they're not so powerful as to leave Nintendo out of the loop again I'll be happy. It really hurt the Wii not having cross-platform titles, and as I'll be getting a Wii U it would be nice to have that extra variety.

As for a universal "gaming device", I think that's definitely the way to go once the technology reaches a level where the machine literally has enough power to emulate reality (at least audio-visually). Let developers focus on the software rather than the hardware. I don't see it happening anytime soon though.

Also, to hit on what I said earlier, games still have a lot more avenues to go down in order to create immersion. Til recently we've only been focusing on audio and video, and tactile response is in its infancy with motion controls (and arcade steering wheels to a greater, though more specialised, extent). When games let you smell the rotting flesh of your enemies, and taste that honey mead, games will get that much more immersive... and that much more unpleasant :p
 

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They really need to bolster the RAM on the machines to a min of 1 GB maybe 2 to be save. Put in some new 23 NM processors and they should be game. Also maybe allow for SSD harddrives?
 

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Sirron Kcuch said:
I don't really give a damn is PC is too powerful compared to consoles. Just let it be, graphics are at an acceptable level now, we need no more.

The PC should be more independient games-wise (which won't happen due to markets (pretty reasonable))
You sir are god for that post, good to know i'm not alone.

I don't get the obsession with graphics in this day in age, fine ten years ago I would be pumped to see a graphics revamping into something less eye straining, but after MW showed up with its fancy graphics and the whole damn industry followed, I was satisfied enough to just stop giving a shit. It should be about game play now and less about graphics. Damn't my Graphics card isn't the best and I don't know shit about computers to work with them, can't we just keep it at a level where I can continue enjoying new games with out being frame rate fucked? please?? With sugar on top?
 

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I'm ready for them. New console generations usually bring about a nice dose of fresh new IPs, and a bit of risk-taking.

Unless there are several absolute must-play games, I'll probably wait at least a year before adopting though. My new PC will handle things in the meantime.


I just hope they don't do anything stupid like go digital-only or something ridiculous like that. I wonder if they'll bother changing the controllers.
 

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TK421 said:
I only have one thing to say about this.
[HEADING=1] Fuck That Shit.[/HEADING]
Seriously why do they have to keep pumping out new systems every couple of years? We are to the point now that they won't be much better than our current ones, and I am not paying another $400-$600 just so I can continue enjoying games.
Time to get a job.

Having a new console isn't an entitlement. You can keep playing your old box. Personally, I'm more interested in the rapid advancement of technology and using the same piece of hardware for a decade is the exact opposite of progress.
 

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I feel mixed. I know that the technology for games could be a lot better with a new console, but I still don't feel like my 360 is outdated. My tune might change after I see the new specs. I guess we will just have to see.
 

Vault101

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I really reall really reall REALLY hope its backwards compatible