Topic has been discussed to death in the Brink forums, and answered in the developer commentaries. While it may be a glaring omission I'd suggest reading/listen to their reasons before the disappointment becomes anger.
Brink : No Girls Allowed
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Its not like this game is any good anyway it got a 6 on IGN, so if your looking for a good FPS that doesn't ignore the existence of females I'd recommend Halo Reach.
"Id love to play anyone on the escapist so pm if you'd like"
mind you I'm not that good XD
"Id love to play anyone on the escapist so pm if you'd like"
mind you I'm not that good XD
With the 4 Quadzillion costumization options they had. If they added females they would have to either make 8 in total. Or split the content. Would rather have more costumization for my male avatar. Btw, why did nobody cry like this when TF2 came out?
Reach? Seriously? How, besides your emblem, are females represented? Most FPS just leave sex alone in the multiplayer spectrum, it has been an issue for some time.AlexNora said:
I use IGN for when I want a video review, but The Escapist is of far higher calibre; I am surprised to find someone who believes IGN's ratings here.
How about you calm down a bit and don't get so contentious when someone disputes any of your points.Captain Placeholder said:
I've been reasonable, considered and have not resorted to trollish swearing.
I'm not at all impressed by your baseless counter arguments. You drop names like "valve, blizzard and Majong" as somehow proof that petitions work as in this case but skim over how these companies are effectively self-publishing and are highly responsive to the smallest fan considerations. Bethesda largely ignores petitions and goes for what their vision is and what they think will be successful.
Because gamers' unwarranted sense of entitlement is growing exponentially. Back when TF2 came out, the collective sense of entitlement was around a "I want so much from a game that half of it is contradictory," whereas today's level of entitlement can be summarized by a big fat turd.Nikolaz72 said:
I can't speak for anyone else, but their excuses are part of why I'm miffed.Jonathan Bradford said:
Wow. Just...wow. It's better that they left out female characters (which should have been planned for from day one) than male characters get fewer of their quadrillions of outfits?Nikolaz72 said:
There are no words, really.
So who's crying? My eyes are perfectly dry.
And TF2 is based around a team of specific characters. Apples and oranges.
Oh, so wanting something that should be absolutely basic in a game that's marketed on its customization is "unwarranted entitlement" now. Gotcha.distended said:
I love derailment bingo, really.
Ah well at least you've read them, a lot of people don't care enough to find out why things like this are not included.
I would love for there to be female character DLC, but I fear that it will be something they tackle in their next release rather than this one.
I would love for there to be female character DLC, but I fear that it will be something they tackle in their next release rather than this one.
good heavens are you even a gamer please Google "Halo Reach Female" and maybe if your not to proud you will learn that you can pick your gender in Halo Reach and it does make you look as feminine as a girl wearing armor can look.Jonathan Bradford said:
IGN isn't bad how stupid, sure its not the best but I read the article, witch seems very level headed, and form what I could see the game lacks the depth to hold your attention and lets face it if the game has no replay value its not worth buying
Hmm, after reflecting on this I've come to terms with the fact that, I wouldn't play a game if there wasn't a male option for the class I'd like to play, so I can see your reason. So, with no reason to dissuade you I suppose I'll say:
Would women consider purchasing the game for the game mechanics, whilst being very loud about wanting equal customization for women on the forums to a degree I hope could not be ignored. That would give them money, you a game to play and hopefully the content you want free of charge. It's a naive idea, but there you have it.
Boycotting it could be equally effective, and not as expensive.
Would women consider purchasing the game for the game mechanics, whilst being very loud about wanting equal customization for women on the forums to a degree I hope could not be ignored. That would give them money, you a game to play and hopefully the content you want free of charge. It's a naive idea, but there you have it.
Boycotting it could be equally effective, and not as expensive.
I don't feel that adding curves to a faceless automaton adds anymore than a semblance of "female" to a character, but since we cannot have helmet-less Spartans my feelings are moot on this point anyway. I will say that the inclusion of a female option to select was probably to appease the masses, not out of any desire to create equality or even choice in a multiplayer setting.AlexNora said:
Secondly I still hold that IGN, while it can be level headed, is not an extremely reliable place for gather game information. A large amount of user comments on various articles show that even IGN's followers/fan base feels similarly (or at least has issues with their journalism).
Finally I'd like to point out that, being a multiplayer focused game, it is very hard to lack replay value. If generic games of both past and present have taught us anything it is that people are strangely attracted to achievements and leveling, something that Brink has in abundance. Being so focused I also find it strange that IGN has a review up, as the game has not been out long enough for a full evaluation of its "flavor" if you will. I would have been more appeased if they added the comment about seeing how the community formed around the online play as they did in the video review of Crysis 2, sadly they did not.
So the big thing here is customization doesn't matter.
I'm now going to back that up by saying customization is very important to me BUT... You will never have customization worth mentioning in an fps like game, so really what you need to do is settle for your 3 presets and fall back on Male/Female option with some quality to your few choices to keep me happy.
The second you shelf female character option you have about 10 seconds to literally awe me to the point of bleeding. To clarify how much that is: All Points Bulletin + Champions Online + Modding support.
Keep the female option and I'll let you off with Dragon Age or Oblivion as long as you are better than Fallout.
I'm now going to back that up by saying customization is very important to me BUT... You will never have customization worth mentioning in an fps like game, so really what you need to do is settle for your 3 presets and fall back on Male/Female option with some quality to your few choices to keep me happy.
The second you shelf female character option you have about 10 seconds to literally awe me to the point of bleeding. To clarify how much that is: All Points Bulletin + Champions Online + Modding support.
Keep the female option and I'll let you off with Dragon Age or Oblivion as long as you are better than Fallout.
On the one hand, I wouldn't be surprised if that were true. On the other, a lot of people have cited Splash Damage's excuse in this thread-?either in an attempt to defend it, or to point out exactly how bogus it is.Jonathan Bradford said:
Because the reason they gave was essentially that including less than 102 quadrillion options for male characters would make customization "shallow," but excluding female characters altogether wouldn't.
Oh, and there was also an excuse (later on) about how female characters are too difficult to model and animate, or some such garbage.
I really would like to see female characters in the game, I'd imagine the Skinny being quicker when played as a female and such - provide differences between the sexes and whatnot. I suppose you could say that, while it is annoying that they are not included, I am more apathetic now due to the game being released.Farseer Lolotea said:
I did whine about TF2 so nyeh.distended said:
But the difference here is TF2 doesn't have customization, it gives you distinctive preset characters and says go blow people up.
If you claim to have customization and are just literally making the sentence up on the spot because you left out 50% of the options then some people are going to be unhappy.
Whether or not you had good reason for excluding them isn't the point.
The point is that: "If you don't include a feature people value, those people will be upset."
It's very simple math... Make people unhappy = listen to unhappy people.
End point.