Brink : No Girls Allowed

[Duskflamer]

A majority of equipment available in World of Warcraft has to be modeled for 8, no wait 10, no wait now 12 races, each of which is free to select their gender, meaning every model of equipment has to be able to fit 24 different bodies. Even if WoW's graphics aren't as stellar as Brinks, you can't use equipment fitting as an excuse for why female models couldn't have been added in.

 

[jpoon]

I planned on completely ignoring this game anyways but that sucks for the ladies who want to play.

 

[BigKush]

Now spend a few seconds thinking of a girl that big. Sure they exist. Does anybody want to play as that?

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Fem!Heavy is credit to thread. Srsly, people, it's like 2011. Women are allowed to have muscles.

None of them look like female characters. You dont understand character design. Theyre effectively drag queens. Men with shabby faux female features.

That was the result of 3 seconds in google. Google "female mma" or "female deadlifter" if you want more realistic examples.

What's your point? Because mine applies to Brink. You cant put blush and pigtails on a character and call it a "muscly female", because it's not that simple. That's not designing a character, that's designing an avatar.

Female MMA? Hahaha. Ohh wow. I'll check that out right after I've bought season tickets to the WNBA.

 

[Littlee300]

imagine a female heavy :S that doesnt really fit.

It sounds like your imagination is limited.

Still, the first thing I would think if I say a girl that big is "Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn" or "Kill that thing with fire!"

 

[Lucane]

adding in females on top of this formula makes this more complicated.

imagine a female heavy :S that doesnt really fit.

True on the 1st part,but on the second part I think the Wonder Woman of"Justice League:The New Frontier" would like a word.​

As would Giganta​

imagine a female heavy :S that doesnt really fit.

It sounds like your imagination is limited.

Yeah my thoughts as well.

Youshi

Oh,I almost forgot about Halo Legends"The Babysitter"
Spoiler Alert: This Spartan is a Woman.
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I don't hate them for not having female avatars but I always feel it's a missed opportunity when anyone leaves out the gender option when creating a Avatar.(Unless the species doesn't have male/female in their universe or are never combatants.)

 

[blue spartan 11]

I'd prefer to see one full assed customization as compared to two half assed ones.

That's something they actually stated I think.

OT: Why are people complaining about this? Customization will actually be customization and not just "Choose your shade of brown", the gameplay looks promising and seem to try to create a new dynamic multiplayer experience based all around on teamwork, and people complain because they can't be girls? Most games doesn't even offer you half of what Brink will give us for customization! Hell, most games don't offer us the possibillity to be girls, do they get complaints about it? Because Brink offers more customization, it should automaticaly feature female characters? What a petty thing to pick on!

 

[Duskflamer]

Mens' muscles can reach higher bulk than womens'. That's just a fact.

It is a fact that people cannot fly. It is a fact that magic does not exist in the real world, at least not in the flashy sense we tend to think about. It is a fact that faster than light travel cannot exist for anything that has mass.

None of these facts apply to fiction. Why should "females don't have as much muscle as men"?

 

[BigKush]

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Sorry but which part of any of those is "Female Heavy"? You're just trying to make this a "Post your favorite female character" thread.

 

[SirQuagsire]

Did Halo have female charecters in IT'S multiplayer? What about Section 8? I don't know why Brink is the upset. Of course, it is a little more jaring since there isn't power armor for everyone. Despite Spartans in Multiplayer looking male, it doesn't take much to imigine one as a girl.

Uh...yes they did. Well, Halo 3 was half assed with just female groans, but Reach had more official female spartans.
WHen you take steps forward, it is unwise to take steps back, in terms of innovation anyways.
A game about customization is being foolish to not include female models. It is just laziness.

more like a company that didn't have the time or money to do it.

It was either a fully robust male system or a downgraded system for both sexes, oh and probably worse animations, since they'd need to take time to animate both genders.

 

[alandavidson]

Any game that offers even the most basic of character customization options, but does not include the option to select your gender, is immediately ignored by me. That's why I have not and will not play the Gothic series.

I agree. Gender is a pretty big thing to ignore when it comes to character customization.

Both of these.

 

[Sovreign]

imagine a female heavy :S that doesnt really fit.

I can just imagine the stereotypical russian female olympian type. would give me the lols

 

[BigKush]

Why are you pushing so hard for a muscly woman chracter? I really don't get it. You guys ruined the game of War too. With your nurses hats, stethoscopes and injured teddy bear soldiers. Piss off!

 

[inquisiti0n]

The reason I don't care would be because you play in first person anyways. When I played Borderlands, I would totally forget that I was playing a girl until Lilith actually spoke, though it matters so little since you barely ever see your own avatar.

And really, if there was a game that only allowed female characters, I doubt many people would raise an issue.


The only downside would be that you don't get to shoot any women, but that's not a big deal.

 

[Pyrokinesis]

Take one look at brinks style... it does not in any way appeal to women..

Pardon me if this may sounds racist but it appeals more to... *aheum* "Gangsters"

I cant really see too many females wanting to play this game.

 

[Saelune]

Did Halo have female charecters in IT'S multiplayer? What about Section 8? I don't know why Brink is the upset. Of course, it is a little more jaring since there isn't power armor for everyone. Despite Spartans in Multiplayer looking male, it doesn't take much to imigine one as a girl.

Uh...yes they did. Well, Halo 3 was half assed with just female groans, but Reach had more official female spartans.
WHen you take steps forward, it is unwise to take steps back, in terms of innovation anyways.
A game about customization is being foolish to not include female models. It is just laziness.

more like a company that didn't have the time or money to do it.

It was either a fully robust male system or a downgraded system for both sexes, oh and probably worse animations, since they'd need to take time to animate both genders.

Id rather the not as good both sexes than the perfect one sex. When its a focus of your game, you better do it right. There is no real excuse for something that you are bragging about.

 

[Ladette]

Two words: Body Types.

There are three body types. Light, medium, and heavy. If you've seen the game, you know that light bodies are lean and muscular, medium types look like bodybuilders, and heavies are freakishly huge. If women were to be in the game, they would be relegated to light body types; not only would medium and heavy sized women be impossible, but they would also be grotesque. So any females playing the game would compelled to play as a woman, which would limit them to playing the role of a light character, no matter the actual combat role that they would have the most fun playing. Therefore, its just better to bite the bullet and play as a male character.

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You keep saying nobody wants to play that like you actually know what everyone wants. You're dead set on the fact that women can only be large and powerful or attractive, not both at the same time.

People are making a fuss about Brink because the developers are making a big fuss about how amazing the customization is. Hard to be impressed when they only allow you customize one sex.

Well outside of the girl in the unreleased gears of war 3 there aren't very many "Big" female characters in any medium. Probably for two reasons, hard to make look good. And people don't want them(if people wanted them they would be there simple rule of business is that things people want, sell well, at some point somewhere its been proven that they dont).

Im not set on that fact at all. I said PRESENTABLE, theres a fair difference, as my image i linked earlier THE GUY IS UGLY but they went with the badass appeal, and it sort of worked. But on the female form it just doesn't work as well.

I'm really not in the mood to argue with someone who will hurp durp a good game because a feature they want which was never advertised isnt in it. You gonna have a go at the next gears of war because it doesnt have a gun that fires rainbows.

It hasn't been done, therefore people don't want it? It hasn't been done yet because developers are afraid of trying anything new. A few of the unreal tournament games had big, bulky female characters and I don't recall anyone refusing to play for that reason.

It's more than possible to make a female character big and badass.
http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=muscular+female#/d22ua7u

Gears of War isn't trying to sell itself on customization. And a gun that fires rainbows wouldn't fit in gears of war at all. I wasn't planning on buying Brink even if it had female characters. I was pointing out the awful reasoning for why they couldn't.

Why are you arguing about a game you don't even care about. Thats like an athiest going to church and telling them their praying wrong.

And its not awful reasoning, its called a business decision.

Oh and yeah your right unreal did have bulky females, which were rarely used, at least not in any of the online i played. Therefore kinda proving my point that its just an unnessacary amount of work for something that most people are never going to even see.

I'm arguing the reasoning behind why they don't have females. I'd like to have seen them try it just because it'd be nice to have someone in the video game industry that understands that women have more than two body types. It'd be nice to have the option to play as a female character.

I think it's crap that they're talking about their character customization but completely ignore a gender.

We obviously disagree on this so i'll respectfully leave you to your opiion.

 

[BoredDragon]

oh no, how will I fulfill my metro-sexual shooter fantasies now!?!

Really, why does it matter so much? Ok, you won't be able to play as a girl, but it's not like it's essential to gameplay. I honestly think this thread was created for bitching for the sake of bitching

 

[BigKush]

I'm honestly curious about your views on this, now, because you aren't making much sense at the moment. What do you think, about a female character with big muscles, is impossible to design?

That's what I'm saying. It's not the DESIGN. It's the character. What is the background story of a race of big muscley women with guns in Brink? How does that fit in, pray tell?

And exactly as others have been saying - it's NOT impossible. Sure! Lump a bunch of muscley females into a game. Just see how well it polishes.

 

[internetzealot1]

Mens' muscles can reach higher bulk than womens'. That's just a fact.

It is a fact that people cannot fly. It is a fact that magic does not exist in the real world, at least not in the flashy sense we tend to think about. It is a fact that faster than light travel cannot exist for anything that has mass.

None of these facts apply to fiction. Why should "females don't have as much muscle as men"?

Read the rest of my post. Its not just that the women can't be as muscular as the men...its that no one wants to see the women as muscular as the men.

 

[Bonecrusher]

Honestly, I don't care if I have to play a transgendered Labrador Retriever with a tophat and Doc Martens, I care if it's a good game, and it would be awesome if people focused on that more than the incidentals.

I agree, the details is not important, the gameplay is.

If Prince of Persia had female hero or Tomb Raider male hero, the game wouldn't change.

Sometimes people are really obsessive with the cosmetics...

By the way, Male-only character customization is a design aspect, not they just couldn't do.