Brink's lack of females. DISCUSS.

[MerlinCross]

For the first part. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.282209-Brink-Has-102-Quadrillion-Unique-Characters]

For the second, I agree. I wish the devs had skipped the customization and spent the time and effort making the shooting actually fun and perhaps ironing out some of the crippling bugs.

First, wow that's a lot of work. Second, what I meant was most the videos, Ads, and stories I saw for Brink didn't advertise the customizing part of it very well.

And thirdly, I agree that I would of liked to see them iron out some bugs and gameplay better rather than the customization. But my jab was more at the whole customizing as a whole that's desended onto games lately. That's another topic though so I'll drop it.

 

[Yoh3333]

I would not mind haveing them in. It's always neat to add some more variety to the customization but in all honesty i don't realy care.
Why is it such a big deal? I honestly think it's because of marketing. It's a niche game when it comes to gender. How many females would want to play such a gritty and rag-tag style game? It's style is clearly towards the males.
I keep thinking about movies each time a debate like this "Y U NO MAKE GIRLZ?" comes up.
Last time i checked a large ammount of movies consist of 1 male protagonist doing some important mission and then there's always this love interest whom leads to tension in almost any movie. Why do people not complain about that? Yea sure there's a woman in there but they tend to be very superficial. (that is my own opinion btw)
It's the same for alot of these "why can't i play as a girl" games. It's superficial and doesn't add anything except for work and money on the developer side of things. In the case of brink i think they should not even think about that as long as they haven't fixed the countless bugs in the game.

EDIT:
I feel like adding something: Brinks customization is at it's core very... very... limited...
It was said to be amazing and honestly, it's weaker than just about any other customization options i've seen. You have about 11 (off the top of my head) different sets of outfits for each faction and they have their own set of color schemes that radically change the apperance. It's a great system for outfits but the characters themselves are quite limited. You choose one of 8 default faces / skin tones and then you can add scars / tatoos which are permanent. That is it. It's nothing compared to other games.
I must say though. Some of the outfits are amazingly detailed and amazing

 

[Valdus]

It comes across as just lazyness to me. Adding an altered texture to a top is easy and quick to do compared to making a whole new texture pack for female characters. It was a way to cut down on their work - they just made the stupid mistake of making it quite an obvious cut.

 

[Ryujisama]

Here's a thought, if the game featured all females, would this argument even exist, or would Brink be hailed as a progressive step towards all women in the long life of humanity, or the third option: Brink is brought down to the lowest form of entertainment as it portrays itself as a female-hating woman-shooting simulator in which you play as other women who are tricked into shooting their fellow sisters for the pleasure of others?

Ok, that last one was a bit out there, but seriously, what if, guys?

 

[thiosk]

To the complainers, don't worry! Female DLC will surely be released. And then you can get girls the old fashioned way: buy em.

 

[GlorySeeker]

Females or not, the game plays well. And its incredibly fun. They said early on they wanted to focus on one gender. Its just being spun out of control. No sense in it.

 

[rbstewart7263]

Guys....have yall seen how ugly these men LOOK! THERE FACES OMG If you made the chicks like that well then people would just have something else to ***** about...more ugly bitches!

 

[Ninjat_126]

I have a problem with hitting or injuring women, or seeing anyone do it. Video game characters, not so much.

Does that make me sexist? Yep. I'm prejudiced against men, because (being one) I'm sick of hearing hundreds of conversations on the theme of "OMGBOOBIES" and watching guys hit eachother with chairs. ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME.

On-topic: From the moment I heard about Brink (A year or so ago) I knew there weren't going to be any female characters, and I got over that pretty fast. It's not like they lied to us about that, at least not in the last year.

I love Brink. I've got some frame-dropping issues on my laptop and haven't bothered going online yet, but it's great so far. And I've really enjoyed tweaking my characters and weapons. It hasn't bothered me.

Do I wish Splammage had put in female characters? Yes. Does it mean they're lazy? For a given value of lazy. Does it ruin the game forever? NO.

 

[LittleBlondeGoth]

It's no big deal. I'm more concerned with the way the Gamecritics article spells the word "axe".

Really, there's more important things to worry about with Brink than whether or not I get to run around with boobs or not.

 

[General_Potatoes]

Why are people going on about this? There are no females. Woopty-freaking-doo. That doesn't stop them from playing the game.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

I don't really see the big deal. Its certainly easier from a design standpoint to only have to worry about males. Most FPS games only feature males, so why the big deal about Brink?

 

[DTWolfwood]

rather not have female characters if thats the way they model the male characters. Brink has the ugliest models i've seen in a long while. Style is nice but man, whats with the horse faces?!

Brink is better without hideous female models. the male ones are bad enough :cringe:

 

[mightybozz]

Physically men are more capable than women, call me sexist but it's true, men are generally large and stronger through history have always gone to armed combat with each other while the women were learning how to be lawyers and other useful members of society rather than cannon fodder.

Besides TF2 doesn't have any women in it and i never hear you anyone ***** about that.

What book of history have you been reading which says that women are the lawyers and "useful members of society"? Common knowledge is surely that they have been housekeepers and exploited servants for millenia? 1922 saw the first women admitted to the UK Law Society, for example.

Anyway, you are correct than men on average are physically stronger than women. What does that have to do with their exclusion from Brink? First, Brink is not a realistic setting. Like Monday Night Combat, TF2 and other multiplayer shooters, it's well aware that it essentially a game show in which people shoot competing avatars, try and achieve objectives etc. "Reality" is a poor argument. Secondly, this is a videogame, played for escapism and fun. Even if the developers wanted to limit the number of female characters who could carry a minigun, due to the statistical variations of physical capabilities of women in the real world, that still isn't a good reason to exclude half the human race from the game entirely.

As for women in TF2? I think TF2 is more excusable because it doesn't try to appear realistic - it is a cartoony FPS in which bizarre characters blow the hell out of one another. Importantly, Valve created strong personalities for each of the character classes. That means that when there is some personality to your avatar and your target. Brink encourages you to design your own, which means excluding the chance to make yourself female feels harsh.

Having said that, I'd love to see a female patch of TF2.

 

[mightybozz]

Physically men are more capable than women, call me sexist but it's true, men are generally large and stronger through history have always gone to armed combat with each other while the women were learning how to be lawyers and other useful members of society rather than cannon fodder.

Besides TF2 doesn't have any women in it and i never hear you anyone ***** about that.

What book of history have you been reading which says that women are the lawyers and "useful members of society"? Common knowledge is surely that they have been housekeepers and exploited servants for millenia? 1922 saw the first women admitted to the UK Law Society, for example.

Anyway, you are correct than men on average are physically stronger than women. What does that have to do with their exclusion from Brink? First, Brink is not a realistic setting. Like Monday Night Combat, TF2 and other multiplayer shooters, it's well aware that it essentially a game show in which people shoot competing avatars, try and achieve objectives etc. "Reality" is a poor argument. Secondly, this is a videogame, played for escapism and fun. Even if the developers wanted to limit the number of female characters who could carry a minigun, due to the statistical variations of physical capabilities of women in the real world, that still isn't a good reason to exclude half the human race from the game entirely.

As for women in TF2? I think TF2 is more excusable because it doesn't try to appear realistic - it is a cartoony FPS in which bizarre characters blow the hell out of one another. Importantly, Valve created strong personalities for each of the character classes. That means that when there is some personality to your avatar and your target. Brink encourages you to design your own, which means excluding the chance to make yourself female feels harsh.

Having said that, I'd love to see a female patch of TF2.

 

[Zaik]

I would rather the game do more of what it claims to do best that try to support an imaginary equality that does not exist outside of video games to begin with.

 

[StrangerQ]

Why in name of seven burning hells people dont use search button since we had over 10 page discussion about this already.

 

[Xisin]

I always look at the opposites. If Brink only had female options and the majority of the players are female, would I be annoyed?

The answer is yes. If you are making a game about customization, why would you not include females? Seems extremely stupid to me.

 

[Jasper Jeffs]

I don't care, I then care even less when the game is in first person so I won't even see my character, I then care even less than caring less when I'm male and don't own the game.