Britain Blocks Hacker's US Extradition on Human Rights Grounds
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About time. I'm sick and tired of our government assuming the position every time America comes around but getting the middle finger whenever we need someone. Case in point Steven Greenoe. Smuggles guns into UK, you know, an actual crime, many of which were confirmed to have been used in fatal shootings. Refused extradition to the UK and sentenced to only 10 years.
Kid "hacks" into "pentagon" and America spends 10 years trying to get him shipped over for potentially 60 years all because he wants to see some UFO's. I'd be willing to bet if the media wasn't involved they'd have just up and snatched him.
Stay classy US Gov.
Kid "hacks" into "pentagon" and America spends 10 years trying to get him shipped over for potentially 60 years all because he wants to see some UFO's. I'd be willing to bet if the media wasn't involved they'd have just up and snatched him.
Stay classy US Gov.
The guy has aspergers, an autism spectrum disorder. He's probably just extremely fixated on the concept. Very common with ASD.Zombie_Moogle said:
That's possible. I know a number of people who are diagnosed ASD; most are perfectly rational, functioning adults. One of my oldest friends has Aspergers. Great gal.Zachary Amaranth said:
Then there's a woman I went to school with years back, who's grasp on reality seems a bit tenuous; this other woman seems to have a hard time distinguishing logical application of her beliefs & ideas.
It's nice that the government has finally stopped acting as if we had an open-border with the US. There's only so many people you can abduct from our country with extraordinary extradition before we stop sending you depressive with mental difficulties who made your computer defense look silly almost by accident. It'd be a miscarriage if this guy ending up killing himself in a US prison
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we're pleased this government isn't licking the USA's arse for once
That's pretty much it
Also I'm not sure why people seem to be getting the impression that he's been "let off". I'm pretty sure the decision was just that they wouldn't extradite him for fear that he'd commit suicide if sent to the US.
I think that if the US wants to be treated with less hostility than this, it should showcase more examples of the courts not always siding with the American firms. In past few years, everything with Assange, Dotcom and more recently the deplorable Apple vs Samsung case have only helped harden the idea that if you want a fair trial as a non-US citizen, the US is one of the last places you'll get it.Tiamattt said:
My personal opinion that if he had been extradited to the US, the last thing he would have seen was a prison.
If the US security had any sense, they would have been looking to employ him in thier cyber defence. He did, after all, amanage to do that capacity of damage from his mum's computer on a dial up.
This entire situation was a farce and I am, for once, remarkably impressed with the Tories for suggesting that the UK may just have a spine.
And, of course, if we had any common sense, we would be offering him a job in our national security, not a prison sentence.
If the US security had any sense, they would have been looking to employ him in thier cyber defence. He did, after all, amanage to do that capacity of damage from his mum's computer on a dial up.
This entire situation was a farce and I am, for once, remarkably impressed with the Tories for suggesting that the UK may just have a spine.
And, of course, if we had any common sense, we would be offering him a job in our national security, not a prison sentence.
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This reminds me of how much Dan Bull has sold out recently.
He went from being mostly ignored by media writing songs about Garry Mckinnon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6fYMzKvXxg
To being the darling of the escapist doing this- can I call it pandering? Is that a litlle extreme?- err, content.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPg8qKIbIYU&feature=plcp
This reminds me of how much Dan Bull has sold out recently.
He went from being mostly ignored by media writing songs about Garry Mckinnon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6fYMzKvXxg
To being the darling of the escapist doing this- can I call it pandering? Is that a litlle extreme?- err, content.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPg8qKIbIYU&feature=plcp
Funny how the UK is more than willing to protect this kid so that he doesn't kill himself, but they can't be bothered to reassure Julian Assange that he won't be extradited to the US from Sweden for capital punishment.
This is fantastic news. The american prison system has greater resemblence to that of a third world dictatorship than any actual civilised society. While the "'MERICA FUCK YEAH!" guys might believe it the only thing hardcore criminials deserve, no nation valuing the universality and fundamentality of basic human rights should extradit anyone to the US.
as far as i see it he didn't do anything wrong in GB as such he should not be tried. from what you write i assume you are an american in that case you should stop thinking you are the world. you are not the same as you where 10 years ago. if not why so pro American? i have nothing against americans but all good (and bad) things come from Canada now daysscotth266 said:
captcha: super star, the guy is now captcha
OK, that is an unfortunate loophole in our justice system, right now the courts do not recognize transgendered women if they still have their "original equipment" (but most do recognize them as women if they installed the vajayjay). BUT here is the thing, how many countries in the world do? I bet I could count them on one hand, but even money for less then 10.NightowlM said:
Are our prisons the best in the world, no, I think Norway wins that game. But we are in the top 10.
Is America perfect, no. Are we trying, yes. Is America safer than say Mexico or Brazil, Heck yes. Also, we do have geriatric (elderly care) facilities, many (even some first-world nations) do not yet do. We pass medication, that is only $3 dollars per prescription, not per/pill, 30 day supply. They have access to legal libraries, regular libraries, any religious organization you can think of and many more you have never heard of, they can even gain job experience that they can use as a reference when they get out. In fact, our prisons see a surge in population in the late fall when it is cold out, the Homeless/Vagrants know what laws too break so they get arrested and sent to jail for the winter, warm bed and three square meals a day.
Lastly, this does not apply to this case because Gary McKinnon is not becoming a woman (as far as I know). I just said all this because a prisons are a lot nicer then people give them credit. I would not want too live there only because criminals are there too.