Britain Decriminalizes Video Game Piracy
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That's the big ol' elephant in the room, if they don't hold the rights to UK distribution and no one holds the rights to UK distribution, then there would be financial loss from it? Theoretically... nope, but that won't stop IP holders from claiming losses and damages in regards to it.Skeleon said:
Very bad reporting on this topic, VCAP is no more then an option for your ISP to inform you when they have recorded piracy on your end. But this will only be done with ISPs who sign up and this does not change the actual laws at all, they can still do the exact same things as before (arrests, raids, ISP termination, lawsuits, extortion, extradition, jail time,... all that and more just waiting for you).
Almost got drawn in by how good this all sounded but this article is mere fiction. You need to double check before putting such things up.
Almost got drawn in by how good this all sounded but this article is mere fiction. You need to double check before putting such things up.
I share the reaction of Critical Miss. All this is, is a significant watering-down of unreasonable proposals; not any retraction of the status quo... but this is a rare (and pleasantly-surprising) example of restraint.
Hopefully, bad reporting doesn't result in them thinking they made a mistake.
Hopefully, bad reporting doesn't result in them thinking they made a mistake.
ITS A TRAP ! Does not sound any diff from what they were talking about before. Just sounds......too good to be true and England is run by greedy assholes
Never really saw the point in a forum as closed and restrictive as Neogaf nor have I ever seen anything come out of their little fiefdom that seemed particularly useful.FFMaster said:
I also, back on topic, am increasingly convinced that a high percentage of piracy is a service issue and not a "I'm going to steal all of 'The Mans' music, movies and videogames and on one can stop me bwahahahaha" issue. See also: New Zealands 3rd largest ISP includes with its service, as best as I can figure, VPN functionality so that its customers aren't getting fucked by region locking of online content.
I can half see the point of the restrictions, limits trolls, but at the same time it causes an echo chamber as the only people that "survive" essentially parrot the company line, as arguing against it will risk a ban. They are quick to say there is no hive mind, but the very system on which the forum operates causes a hive mind like mentality to appear (clique groups kinda have this effect, research has been done on it before).ThingWhatSqueaks said:
Which is why i guess they like to say there isn't one cause if you point this out, your going against the line and CHOP FOR YOU
Anyway back to topic, we gonna have a update on the story, maybe contact a UK lawyer to see if it really is decriminalized cause currently multiple people have pointed out in this thread that they are dubious?
When I read the new I was like: "That can't be true..."
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After all this would have meant that reason would have won over corporate interests and would put quite a few lawyers on the streets? so it?s impossible in a capitalistic democracy?
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Thanks, it is not true.cde said:
After all this would have meant that reason would have won over corporate interests and would put quite a few lawyers on the streets? so it?s impossible in a capitalistic democracy?
This is a decent idea, obviously piracy is an issue but the fines were insane, you could get less of a penality for driving recklessly than sharing some music, almost killing people with a vehicle is less dangerous than Beyonce apparently (though i beg to differ).
This so horribly reported on I don't even know what the fuck anymore. Its like I'm watching the Escapist turn into the Fox News and CNN of video games right before my very eyes.
Offenders can still get dragged into court and sued to oblivion.
Offenders can still get dragged into court and sued to oblivion.
Over before it began? because they have never managed to do this sucesfully, anywhere. in fact the reason that 27000 dollar grandma case is so famous is because its the only one in history where a regular user and not a regular uploader that got fined, worldwide.Steven Bogos said:
copyright infringement is illegal. copyright infringement is a type of crime (like theft is a type of crime, but it is not equal), while it can be both legal and illegal and can fall under civil or criminal law. Now, its worth noting that in pretty much every civilized country, copyright infringement falls under civil law (which means you cant actually serve time for it, only fines, confiscation, ect) so its not like anything changed by "decriminalizing it".alj said:
the whole idea of "not available in X" is bullshit. internet has no countries. if you make an online service - make it available everywhere. segregating nonexistent countries is simple bullshit legallities. and the reason things like Netflix has different stuff in UK than US is actually because they cannot aquire permission from content owners to show outside of US, because god forbid somone actually has alternative to piracy (not that netflix is aleternative, what with its poor quality of video and all).alj said:
internet has no countries, but that wasnt good enough for layers, so they created a server location principle. basically, the jurisdiction falls based on where the server is located. so even though im in europe, i have to make my posts good under US law when posting on escapist, because escapist is US based.Skeleon said:
the hope that some ignorant parent will see this and think his child is a criminal for "downloading dem minecrafts". basically scaremongering tactics.TKretts3 said:
Even if this news had been real, I would have disagreed entirely. The problem with punishing copyright infringement is the scale of the punishments, not the punishments themselves.
The massive fines, threats of permanent internet banning, and jail sentences are inappropriate. While the crime is annoying, it should be treated as more of a slap-on-the-wrist fine situation.
The massive fines, threats of permanent internet banning, and jail sentences are inappropriate. While the crime is annoying, it should be treated as more of a slap-on-the-wrist fine situation.
Yes, even starting in 2015 piracy will still be a crime in the United Kingdom, this scheme only handles how ISPs will deal with people they believe are offending, if caught out by any authorities you may still face prosecution. This article is very poorly researched.CaitSeith said: