Gilhelmi said:
In war, when you bomb a factory, the shrapnel flies and fires spread. It is a tragic reality of war.
This is not a war.
This is political takedown of opposing faction.
CardinalPiggles said:
First of all, yes the law is above the law derpy, otherwise how could ambulances speed towards a dying person to try to save his life, how could police officers shoot dangerous criminals, and how could fire fighters speed towards a burning building to try to save lives/buildings.
Secondly, fighting fire with fire is a metaphor. Being attacked is all these hackers understand. Creating more defenses is just like extending the obstacle course for these people. They see it as a challenge to be overcome. And besides, Thunder's tactic was DDoSing crappy chat rooms, whereas these hackers were DDoSing government websites. Slight difference there, not exactly the napalm attack you were getting at now is it.
There is a line that could quite easily be crossed here, but I don't believe Thunder has crossed it yet.
No they are not above the law. ambulances CAN NOT speed above the speed limit in ANY CASE. what they can do is ifnore traffic lights, and that is written specifically in the law itself btw. the law also gives exception to police officers speeding when in chase of criminal. this is written in the law and the officers are not above it. This is why we got units meant to investigate of police follow the law themselves.
It is a metaphor, however it is only as good as an eye for an eye. you know, the metaphor that leaves everyone blind.
There is no defence agaisnt DDoS. there are only 3 ways to deal with DDoS.
1. arrest the DDoSers - the legal way.
2. Have your server more powerful than the DDoSers units power - the ignoring way,
3. DDoS them back - the illegal way that is as bad as the DDoS itself.
It does not matter what website you are DDoSing, it is still illegal unless you are in Germany, where is is considered a legal form of protest. As suck Drooling Thunder should be held accountable for their crimes just as well as anonymous should. Said chat rooms were probably hosted on a multi-chatroom server that hosted thousands of cahtrooms and the DDoS did more actual damage than the government sites being down for a few hours. but of course her derp as lnog as government site noone visits is down its massive damage.
Thunder has crossed the line the moment it has decided to break the law.
omega 616 said:
I also believe that the government should be totally transparent and any corruption dealt with in a very serious way ... also a fan of sortition.
We would get along i think
dumbseizure said:
Just because I agree with this doesn't mean I am for the government doing all of that.
And no, I don't sound scary cause I didn't fucking say half of what you said I implied, what I am noticing is how stupid you are for taking one point I said and running half a fucking mile with it though.
So you both agree and are against it? how does that make sense?
you basically said you agree with removal of a faction just because you find it annoying. This is as scary as KKK speeches.