You mean like the two at the beginning of the thread? I do recall one of them receiving a permeant ban and the other receiving a warning.Melon Hunter said:
Bronies Get the Cracked Treatment
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Oh yes, I'm soooooooo certain that they base their entire lives around it. After all you must know so much about what they do offline. I also like how you assume that we're all like that and it's just not a handful of people that even we edge away from. Dissuade people from watching the show...didn't stop mebahumat42 said:I'm not actually that angry on a day to day basis,because in the real world people don't run around yelling about ponies.MasterOfWorlds said:
Its a lovely place
And i retort that they had every right to stop your plague from spreading and speaking their mine.
I'm not new to the internet, and i don't mind jargon, in fact due to the fluid nature of language evolution i encourage helpful new phrases like LOL because in context of saving time and space they are effective, what you have is a failed attempt at whimsy, which i wouldn't mind if it was on one of your pony boards, because nobody else ever has to see those
And i think you misunderstand me if you think i have an issue with the show, its fluff sure, but everyone watches fluff, whether it be action fluff in the form of transformers or romantic fluff of every rom com ever. Its harmless entertainment and should be treated as such.
No i have an issue with the religious fervour in which many people who own the term brony would choose to act. Now granted this has died down of late, but i honestly believe without actual effort put in by me and others this board would be much worse than it currently is.
And back on track i have several issues with bronies, one of which is that a person would be so close minded as to define their lifestyle by a program they choose to watch? you know who else did that, trekkies, do you know what happened to them? everyone looked down on them too. Being so consumed and one minded towards any aspect of any medium means you aren't truly experiencing what the form is capable of. Countless times i read people claiming that its the only good thing on television. Which is pure nonsense. Its a staple of the immaturity and short sighted thinking which is associated with the group.
And the reason I and many others are so annoyed by you and your comerades is the thorough spamming and overexposure you forced us to in the early months of 2011, not just on this board but around the web. As un-accepting and closed minded as you accused others of being, you were yourselves, refusing people who had valid opinions that your show wasn't the cartoon renaissance and with shows like the regular show, young justice and adventure time all showing various different ways the form could be used, arguing that your opinion was right and screaming it on all the forums just painted the show in a bad light, ironically creating the opposite to what you wanted, the actions of your community actively dissuaded people from watching the show.
And here it is again if you got confused, no issue with the show. Its you guys who are the problem.
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Belated said:
Brony for life man. as long as it stays good ill stay to watch. if it starts to suck ill just keep watching the good ones over and over again. who cares about the bandwagon
Yes... actually, the one other prominent anti-brony around these parts is Abandon4092 (I think that's the number). As for the one that got banned, they were prone to making rather unpleasant posts around the Escapist, so I'm not surprised they got banned for that post. It was pretty much par for the course. To be honest, the forum health meter punishes vitriol and vehemence hard. I guess that's why so many of the old guard on the Escapist have now been banned.erttheking said:
Christ, I wasn't expecting a short story. I'll break it up a bit and hit it point by point.
However, you turn right around and say that we're the problem, going so far as to call us a "plague." Now, in all fairness, yes, there are bronies/pegasisters that are a royal pain in the ass. We can all admit that. Some people just like trolling, no matter what they like.
The blame lies on both groups though. Bronies/pegasisters generally preach love and tolerance, which is part of the show, but more than that, is a good philosophy to have, show or no. Part of that is being able to tone it down a bit when they know it causes problems, and most I've seen do. On the other hand, the other side rants and raves and condemns because we like what we like. It's not even entirely the posting of it. You said so yourself by saying that it's not the renaissance that we think it is (I don't, btw, and know very few who hold that view) and stating that other shows could easily take it's place.
Your issues are with both the show and the fans. If you were a little less hostile, we'd be less inclined to post ponies in your threads or in responses to you, now wouldn't we?
As I said, the blame can be placed on both sides. Bronies/pegasisters need to chill on the holier than thou approach and get off their soap box.
You and your group need to relax and not throw hissy fits whenever something pony related pops up unless it's purposely intended to cause problems, which you should just ignore. Honestly, if you ignored it, the bronie trolls would leave you alone, just like anyone else. The only person you're upsetting in all of this is yourself.
Umm, why would you want to silence a group of people who aren't causing harm? If there's no harm being done, rules/laws bing broken, there's no reason to silence it. As I said before, if you don't like it, simply don't partake.bahumat42 said:I'm not actually that angry on a day to day basis,because in the real world people don't run around yelling about ponies.
Its a lovely place
And i retort that they had every right to stop your plague from spreading and speaking their mine.
While I agree that keeping the pony related topics in pony specific place would cause less grief for all involved, very few people would get into the show, which I know you would count as a blessing, and people that were curious about it wouldn't learn because more likely than not, they'd not visit the pony specific sites. It's unreasonable to pack away a group of people into specific areas just because you don't want to see what they have to say. If they do it on their own, it's different, but expecting them to do it because you don't want the grief is...well, kinda unreasonable.I'm not new to the internet, and i don't mind jargon, in fact due to the fluid nature of language evolution i encourage helpful new phrases like LOL because in context of saving time and space they are effective, what you have is a failed attempt at whimsy, which i wouldn't mind if it was on one of your pony boards, because nobody else ever has to see those
That last line specifically amuses me. Did you ever stop to consider that the people simply moved into the pony specific group because it was faster and easier to discuss it? You know, the thing that I addressed above? Moving on to the whole chunk though, yes, it's fluff. It's harmless entertainment. It's also hamrless to be fans of it, and really like it. I don't have t-shirts, music, toys, or anything else like that, and I'd like to think that I'm the average "brony." You make it sound like we can't go five minutes without quoting it before we start frothing rainbows or something.
You're making it sound like the vocal minority stand for the silent majority. See the point above. We're not all like that. Just like most people that don't like the show/bronies, the group you fall into, aren't actively hunting down areas to show their ire in.
You realize that bronies have...what, like tripled in size since then, if not more? I got into the show well after it started dying down, as have many others. As I keep saying, most of us are content to watch it and throw in a reference every so often for grins. Also, I've never seen a brony or pegasister who said that MLP was the best thing on TV/the web and be so rigid about it that they weren't willing to accept that other shows also have their merits. Most bronies/pegasisters I've talked to like plenty of other shows. That's not to say there aren't the freaks out there building shrines to it as we speak, but I think we can both agree that those are (hopefully) few and far between. Arguing your opinion is part of what forums are about. 90% of the time, you're not going to change people's minds simply because of the same rigidity that you yourself are both showing and damning. To have such a venomous attitude towards a group of people who like something and show interest in it, and hate them all in a broad and sweeping statement saying, "It's not the show I hate, it's you." actually makes it seem worse somehow.
How very open minded of you. You say that the problem isn't the show, which I can appreciate simply because there are so many people that hate because it is what it is. You have my respect for that much, at least.
However, you turn right around and say that we're the problem, going so far as to call us a "plague." Now, in all fairness, yes, there are bronies/pegasisters that are a royal pain in the ass. We can all admit that. Some people just like trolling, no matter what they like.
The blame lies on both groups though. Bronies/pegasisters generally preach love and tolerance, which is part of the show, but more than that, is a good philosophy to have, show or no. Part of that is being able to tone it down a bit when they know it causes problems, and most I've seen do. On the other hand, the other side rants and raves and condemns because we like what we like. It's not even entirely the posting of it. You said so yourself by saying that it's not the renaissance that we think it is (I don't, btw, and know very few who hold that view) and stating that other shows could easily take it's place.
Your issues are with both the show and the fans. If you were a little less hostile, we'd be less inclined to post ponies in your threads or in responses to you, now wouldn't we?
As I said, the blame can be placed on both sides. Bronies/pegasisters need to chill on the holier than thou approach and get off their soap box.
You and your group need to relax and not throw hissy fits whenever something pony related pops up unless it's purposely intended to cause problems, which you should just ignore. Honestly, if you ignored it, the bronie trolls would leave you alone, just like anyone else. The only person you're upsetting in all of this is yourself.
I hope you're not referring to/springing to the defence of "Mianus" with this sentence, that guy had his fucking chance several times over. He got something 6/7 notches added to his health bar for repeatedly coming on to threads that specifically pertained to ponies (all the while claiming to be sick of seeing them) in the title and making brazenly inflammatory comments wishing grizzly deaths upon the fanbase. If he'd have pulled that shit in relation to fans of any gaming franchise (you'll notice time and time again many haters of popular franchises e.g. COD, getting warnings for their disparaging remarks), the mods would be on his ass for that as well. It's only because he and many other users feel vindicated in flaming this particular fanbase for the obnoxious conduct of some of the more vociferous members that anynone is reacting remotely fucking surprised or hard done by. Granted, I acknowledge there are some rather beleaguering little shits within the fanbase and I agree that any pony based discusssions should be kept within the group chat. However, it fucking astounds me that people like "Mianus" see threads that are clearly labelled to be pertaining to animated equines and go to post anyway merely to express their revilement upon the discovery of a such a thread. I mean what the fuck do you think is going to happen? When you quite unassailably and repeatedly flame the same target across several threads, then there are going to be repurcussions. I'd call him a fucking idiot if he needed to be told twice, but after six or seven occurrances, now I just think he's a fucking masochist. You guys are pissed I get it, even I fucking dread it when a thread with ponies in the title comes up, because I know it's inexorably going to devolve into this kind of shit and it's not like either side of people on the issue are going to budge a solitary fucking inch on their stance, so I have to ask people why do you bother? Surely if are so sick of seeing ponies all the time, wouldn't you want to do your upmost to avoid anything relating to it like the fucking plague? Do really have anything to gain, except another step closer to being banned by coming on here to express your discontent? Don't you generally leave this thread even more pissed off then when you came in? Is it really worth the fucking hassle?bahumat42 said:
/Rant the fuck over.
-_- Not that anyone will listen...
Well, that's the thing: I reach my own conclusions about everything I enjoy, no exceptions. Some endure, some do not, and some are seen in a new perspective over time, but on the whole, nothing I consume has anything to do with anyone else. Which isn't to say that I find out about them exclusively on my own, but my experience with them is more or less exclusive to me, for better or worse.Melon Hunter said:
Granted, I'm an extremely reclusive cynic that takes little at face value, absorbs few opinions without several others to compare them to, and that goes out of their way to maintain the maximum amount of distance from people possible, except with an entire four people in the world. I'm not saying everyone has to do it that way, but it has a lot to do with why your claim that everyone is influenced into the things they enjoy is nonsense. I also have no regard for what others, even the few close to me, think of the things I enjoy, nor am I concerned whether my opinions will make me popular or unpopular with anyone else.
So to answer your question, "The last things I read or played (disclaimer: I don't watch or enjoy television or movies on my own, so anything I watch was because someone else wanted to, and thus doesn't qualify here), the last ones before that, and so on." If you'd like specifics, Armored Core 3, as a result of my personal Armored Core series retrospective of late, and before said retrospective, Sonic Generations.
I'm not unwilling to try something with good PR, though, but the last thing I played due to popular public opinion was Mass Effect, and I hated it. Before that, however, was Deus Ex: Human Revolution, which I found surprisingly enjoyable, and I didn't even pick it up for myself to begin with.
Something I need to make clear, though, is that I don't see my stance on things as better than the way anyone else does it. I'll say mine is more earnest, more honest, and less stressful at times, but it suffers from the burden of truth, so to speak; everything is under scrutiny, nothing is taken at face value, and I sometimes feel the need to question others because it's in my nature (or I've at least developed it as my nature; I can't really remember anymore, truth be told), and sometimes it's more trouble than it's worth.
On the other hand, it's liberating to know that I can enjoy something without fretting, and get some amusement out of someone criticizing it, should the need strike them; they're probably right about whatever they're complaining about, even. But it doesn't matter as long as I like it, because I like it for my own reasons, and that's the nice part.
And that brings me to my next point, which I promise will have less exposition.
You know no such thing, first off. Every opinion has some merit in my eyes as long as it's earnest, whether I agree with it or not.Melon Hunter said:
Secondly, I don't genuinely buy that the vast majority of fans enjoy the show on its merits alone, and I doubt you do either. When you need to come up with and employ the use of terms like "brony", it's not about the show anymore; it's about the phenomenon, it's about the experience as a whole. Without the fan base, without the terminology, without the memes, without the ability to turn up your nose in a smug manner at the unwashed masses, without the animated .gifs, would it matter to most of you as much, and would you be offended by my disapproval? No, probably not. This is evidenced as soon as the first post, when the commenter remarked about their fears that the show was falling out of style. And that's fine, in its own way, even if a little tragic in my opinion (but really, who asked?) but what gets my goat is when people try to defend it by saying it's not the case.
Well, that and seeing it everygoddamnedwhere I look. Adblock has become my tether to sanity around you guys.
...Uhm...how is Pinkie pie firing what is obviously a fuse-lit cannon by smacking her foot into it? Are her hooves made of flint? LOGIC!!A Satanic Panda said:
Because why type when this wonderful gif express my thought perfectly, LETS PARTY!
You know, I used to have that point of view. "OMG! Stupid little girls' show! Adult men cannot do anything but want to do MANLY THINGS! Grrrr, watch me lift this 250 pound barbell! GRRRRRAAAAAAAAHH!"Thyunda said:
Seriously, just watch the show. Yes it is made for little kids, but not ONLY for little kids. There is a reason people besides it's target audience watch it, and it's not because they're all freaks. There is some actual good content in the show, and if you just set your stigma about "omg, I'm watching a little girl's show, I'M A MONSTER!" (again, speaking from experience) off to the side, and just let yourself enjoy a few episodes, you'll be back for more.
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Now, that being said, I must post once again, the standard internet disclaimer: People online talking to other people online, will 50% of the time do everything in their power to annoy the person they are talking to. Why? 'cuz. That is the rule of interaction over the internet. If it wasn't MLP avatars and memes they were bothering you with, it would be something else. Probably Dr. Who or some badly dubbed Japanese anime.
...Ok, I have no idea who you are, and your avatar as a gundam only brings to my mind that you like giant mechas. If you changed your avatar tomorrow, I would not care one way or the other, I think there are only a few people on this site who would.Thyunda said:
I listened, but then, I'm a brony, so I appreciate anyone backing me up. XDOmniscientOstrich said:
A brony is a male over the age of the originally targetted audience that enjoys the show and is a fan of it.bahumat42 said:
If I happen to fit into the descriptions, it's only right that I use that to describe myself. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and whatnot.
I'll give you the avatar thing, most people wouldn't know. The "us vs. them" thing goes both ways though. Or really, it's that way with almost any fanbase. COD vs. BF being the more recent example. Star Wars vs. Star Treck, and so forth and so on. People group things into "like" and "unlike" it's just how we work.
Well, I can see that we're not going to convince each other, so have fun with your game, and I look forward to debating you again sometime. Not about this specifically, but you get the idea. I can respect a well thought out debate that amounts to more than rage induced spittle flinging.
Your worried about a combustible fuse when the mare that recites the Norse God of pranksters is firing table cloths and balloons out of a cannon?Reishadowen said:...Uhm...how is Pinkie pie firing what is obviously a fuse-lit cannon by smacking her foot into it? Are her hooves made of flint? LOGIC!!A Satanic Panda said:
Because why type when this wonderful gif express my thought perfectly, LETS PARTY!
I'm not saying people are influenced into everything they enjoy, though. This is my point. Most fans of MLP heard about it and watched it on the Internet. They most likely saw the growing fanbase, and the various fanworks being produced around it. But do you honestly believe that after watching however many episodes, most people said "Welp, I guess I better keep watching this show because so many other people watch it! That must mean it's good!"? If you do, you are wrong. The fact that it's ironic to watch MLP as a grown man is not a means to an end. Many fans enjoyed the show on its own merits, and accepted the rather unusual nature of the fandom as a given, not to troll people.ReinWeisserRitter said:
Do you? Your original post about how you could count the number of people who watched the show independently and genuinely liked it on one hand would suggest you're being quite the hypocrite here. No, I do not know that for a fact, but having been part of the community for several months, I would say it is not a wild extrapolation to place those who genuinely enjoy the show firmly in the majority. And by 'not going to change anything', I meant that most people are firmly entrenched in their opinions on this matter. I doubt anyone will suddenly throw their arms up and proclaim "You're right!", just because you said it was a fad, or if conversely, a fan were to try and objectively prove it to not be a fad.ReinWeisserRitter said:
Well, I do think people enjoy the show for its merits alone, and as someone who both watches the show and is involved in the community surrounding it, I can assure you I'm not just making stuff up to provoke you or to oppose you just for the sake of it. If there were no real fanbase, and the community around the show never existed, the experience would undoubtedly be poorer for it, but I would still enjoy the show. It's a simple 20 minute pleasure. I watch the Yogscast's ongoing Shadow of Israphel series, but I am in no way involved in the admittedly large community surrounding that. I still enjoy the videos immensely. Again, the community, the experience as a whole, enriches the show, but again it is not a means to an end.ReinWeisserRitter said:
I suppose the overarching point of this astoundingly long post is that no-one here is being a fan of the show to annoy you. Yes, I realise some people are over-zealous in their enjoyment of MLP, but this is an unfortunate side-effect of any fandom. It is not our raison d'etre. I would appreciate it if in future we could all get along and people weren't condescending to one another over whether or not they like a cartoon, but it's the Internet, what can you do, eh?
Okay, I just have to address this.Reishadowen said:...Uhm...how is Pinkie pie firing what is obviously a fuse-lit cannon by smacking her foot into it? Are her hooves made of flint? LOGIC!!A Satanic Panda said:
Because why type when this wonderful gif express my thought perfectly, LETS PARTY!
1. It's probably just a button that looks like a fuse.
2. Rule of Funny
3. You're asking for logic from Pinkie Pie?
Oh yeah sorry about that, I'll have my man let your family go, you don't need to watch the show.Volf99 said:
Well, if somebody's reading it than that's something I guess.MasterOfWorlds said:
As aforementioned, I'm just getting rather tired of what these kind of threads typically devolve into...
I haven't met a single "brony" in the flesh, or any person who actually knows the hype around My Little Pony for that mattress, so everybody just thinks I'm a nutter when I run around in pink shirts with baloon print. Might as well, I'm having fun either way.
*Looks at the multiple moderator warnings given on this thread*
Holy crap this is a heated subject...
Anyway, I'm not surprised by this despite me not being a brony. No popular thing can hide from Cracked.com for long, not even multicolored ponies fans.
Holy crap this is a heated subject...
Anyway, I'm not surprised by this despite me not being a brony. No popular thing can hide from Cracked.com for long, not even multicolored ponies fans.