Bullying: Stop the complaining.

[Leonardo Huizar]

Bullied as a kid: I was always a big kid but that never stopped pieces of shit to try to instigate with me, i even stood up to some wannabe gangster who clocked me in the middle of class and split my lip open. But i didnt reel in pain or give him the satisfaction of crying from the pain.

One Halloween me and my younger brother were taking pumpkins that we bought locally, then some other wannabe gang member [teenager versus a kid, so fair fight for him and all] decided to try and steal them from us just for the sake of because. I told my brother to run home as i got in front of him and took a beating and several kicks to face... then the neighbor lady caught his ass and stopped the beating... then the cops showed and dealt with him.

Bullied as a teen: Some pothead cholo used to treat me like shit on the bus to school everyday for 3 years of high school unitl he dropped out

Two arse holes tried to harass my cousin who is a girl about a year older than me, i confronted both of them at school, both big dudes and i was willing to throw down because she always looked out for me and i was not going to let this sh*t fly with me

Went to a different high school my senior year and was actually more athletically inclined as well as training to enter the US Army so no bullies my senior year

Bullied as an adult: While in the Army some douchebag from texas who i shrugged off because he was a loser who tried to get under my skin. When i was stationed in S. Korea some clique of "guys" would just disrespect me at their leisure but at the time i was taking Tae Kwon Do and have proven my prowess by dropping a infantry soldier who tried to bully me. Still didnt stop them from trying to dis me.

At work afew years ago some douchebag, who daily would just try to goad me everyday he worked. Every f*cking day. Until finally one day he was trying to piss me off right after work inside the building i work. I had enough and dropped my personal books and said really loud at him: "YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ME!?" Then he backed off and walked away. Id didnt threaten him with violence, but my body language said otherwise.

Also this one new guy at work i was training tried repeatedly to get under my skin... this was harder on me because i at that point in my life had a very traumatic event regarding sexual abuse. So while i was trying to function with that garbage on my mind nonstop at work, this dude would just push my buttons every chance he got. He eventually got fired, thankfully along with douchebag for unrelated karmic reasons



So bullying doesnt stop in life for some of us.

My only advice to the young-lings being bullied is: See a weight, pick it up a hundred times, then the same on the other arm, take a karate or boxing class, dont take sh*t from bullies. Bullies are cowards and if they fight in groups expect to fight really dirty [dirt in the eyes, jabs to the neck, biting, twisting arms so ligaments tear apart] and make your own group friends just in case cause bullies wont mess with superior numbers.

Violence isnt the answer, but the simple mind of a bully will get the message crystal clear

 

[Loonyyy]

Bullying is a really serious issue and it can fuck kids up for a long time... When I was in 8th grade I got bullied and then all of my friends and almost my whole class started joining up with that bully. My friends all left me and literally told me (over MSN no less) that they didn't want me to hang around with them. My whole little world just collapsed around me. And this was only a relatively minor bullying comparatively, amounting to a kid in class just picking on me and calling me names repeatedly, followed by my class mates all joining in. They even managed to get my teacher to put one of the names they were calling me in the school yearbook as my "nickname" when I was absent one day.

Anyway, after all of that, it changed me. For years I became very shy and had a very hard time making friends. I was always self-conscious about who I was and I felt myself sometimes giving in to what they had called me, years earlier. It's a psycholigically brutal experience, and I'm not a person who is easily depressed by any means.

So no, bullying is NOT okay, and people need to know how to handle bullies and they shouldn't be left to fend for themselves because that never helps anything.

I like to post this song when discussing bullying because I feel like it sums up my feelings very well, and it's made me and several other people cry from seeing it.

Rise Against for the win. I think they perfectly outline the problem: The people getting hurt aren't to blame. What sort of a monster lets that happen?

I feel bad for your story, I had a similar sort of situation when I moved schools, and didn't fit in.

The ideal solution would be for people to simply not put up with it, for the kids to reject those who would bully outright. But, people are dicks, so you need to have a system in place for when that doesn't work, and that's what the administration is for.

Is your name by any chance a reference to this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXZpqORcuFM

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

I'm...not sure you get it.

Telling a teacher does nothing. Sure, they may get a detention. Very rarely do schools have effective ways of dealing with systematic victimisation.

Ignoring it doesn't work, as anyone who has actually been in a situation where they are being victimised knows. What are you going to do? Start walking away? Most naive advice I've ever heard.

Standing up for yourself is all well and good for lads of integrity like myself and (I'm assuming) the OP, because we CAN. Some people can't. Or just don't, because they know if a teacher sees that they'll just dismiss it offhand and go "Well I don't care who started it both of you pick up rubbish" or some inane crap. Once you respond, if you can't finish it yourself, or worse, if you end up not looking like a victim, no-one's going to care enough to get to the bottom of it.

Not to mention, there's not just one kind. Sticks and stones may break your bones but words will etc. is absolute and utter bullshit and I can't believe that is seen as an actual solution. Most severe abuse has at least a component of this, and can spread into other areas of the victim's life. Crucially, it is also the form that people give least of a fuck about and which does the least demonstrable harm (demonstrable to an idiot, that is).

I don't care what the media says. There is abuse that occurs that is systematic and that leads to suicide. And while I will agree that sometimes victims don't take the necessary steps to report it, the biggest problem is the complete inability of schools or other intstitutions to recognise and deal with these problems. It's just a one-off dispute or "kids will be kids". And Jesus Christ, the amount of "just ignore it" is fucking stupid.

The only thing I can say in regards to the OP's experience is, and I'm not trying to belittle you, if you stood up for yourself and it STOPPED, you did not have that bad a time of it.

 

[Remus]

Strongly disagree. Way to put the onus on the victims.

Bullying is innacceptable. End of story.

Try being victimized daily by anywhere from 5 to 30 people. < YES
Ever get punched repeatedly with small wooden objects cause it hurts more? < YES
Ever get mobbed by 20 guys with the sole intent of kicking the crap out of you? < YES
Ever have teachers not believe you, or just do nothing at all cause they share the OP's view? < YES
Ever spend lunch hours hidden as much as possible in order to avoid being harrassed? < YES. Specifically the table kids in detention or ISS sat because they weren't allowed to speak.
Ever think that one day you just might snap and kill every ************ in the school then yourself? < ABSOLUTELY
And all this because you aren't very athletic, are good at art and live in a small town that you moved to in middle school. < Dealt with the same kids at the same school for 7 years.

I say 7 years because near the end of 6th grade I snapped and assaulted my principal, or more accurately punched him in the nuts. I was expelled for the rest of that year but allowed to move on to the next grade with my class. From that point on I was either respected or feared. Nobody even attempted to bully me and I made a point that I didn't accept seeing others bullied around me. This and learning the fine art of leverage/mass displacement - the ability to throw a person twice your size across the room, kept my classmen well in line.

Now I was never the athletic type but I was a brick regardless. I always stood up for people weaker than myself and had no qualms about missing school days for doing so. Bullying is unacceptable and a zero tolerance policy should reflect this, punishing the offender either before it escalates to violence or far worse than the victim if/when the victim finally tries to make a stand. School should not be about forced darwinism. The only time Darwin should ever come up is in a science or history book.

 

[Loonyyy]

Yes because "standing up for yourself" always works and the victim standing up for himself always wins.

We shouldn't make teachers get involved in bullying or try to resolve the issue, we should just tell the kids "tough luck" and let them sort it out on their own. What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Spoiler

Let me give you some advice, standing up for yourself doesn't always work like people think. This isn't some school show where the kid stands up to a bully, beats the crap out of him, then the bully being the coward he is goes away forever. Most bullies come from violent homes as it is, they probably are beaten enough by their parents that one extra beating at worst just gets them pissed. They thrive off of power and domination. Take that power away from them and they're more determined then ever to get it back... Which means that when you aren't looking, your next beating will be even MORE painful.

Bullies don't give a crap if you "stand up to them", they'll keep bullying regardless of what you do. The best thing to do is get a teacher and let that asshole know that if he tries it again, he'll just end up with a detention.

It's a good point that one. I'd think Americans(Who tend to be the ones who talk about "Dealing with it") should especially be able to take note of that. Their culture and martial philosophy is based on the idea of the citizenry being able to take up arms. They defend the right to own personal firearms. So the idea that one should fight back, can easily be tied to it: If you can't fight back, you need a weapon, becase "Standing up for yourself" is the only option.

I know that sort of thing was my plan for a long while. General misanthropic fantasies about the systematic butchering of the stupid and the bogans, and the like. It's not a healthy thing.

I was actually thinking of writing a novel about it, an anti-hero story about a kid who, through persecution, turns to violence. It'd at least be thought provoking.

 

[WolfThomas]

At one of the schools I went to, they actually changed the rules, because of the excessive amount of bullying I received.
They didn't change the rules in my favor though.

I reported to a teacher, every instance of bullying.
There was so much of it though, the teachers started to not believe me. They thought I was making it all up.

So they changed the rules so that a teacher could only take action if they personally witness the bullying themselves.
The bullies were clever though, and waited until the teacher wasn't looking or went out of the room.

Also, I had one instance where a teacher was a massive bully himself.

To be fair that just sounds like a shitty school.

 

[Nazulu]

Well, it's great when they can stand up for themselves, but not everyone has that mentality built into them.

I make a perfect example of this since I went through most of the basics. I have autism, luckily high functioning, but almost everyone could tell I was different in how I think and react, and back then I could hardly understand body language so I was left out of the loop often. I usually avoided people in the end because I was treated like a freak, and it's difficult to defend yourself against jerks twice your size or in groups of 5 or more. Not only that, but I couldn't come up with any clever insults to throw back because half of what they did or said I couldn't understand.

After putting up with this for awhile I became depressed, not a little depressed either, the real thing when you feel like there is nothing for you in this world and your family would be better of without you. Luckily, my family noticed this eventually and became really aggresive towards all the parents and teachers, they really swore up a storm because the kids found out if they bullyed me again then they could end up suspended or even expelled, it stopped them completely. That's it! I could actually try to socialise after that, and now I'm on forums explaining and complaining like normal behaviour.

Bullying can destroy people mentally and make them want a way out or even turn them into monsters, it's always been the case in history. I have an unhealthy hatred towards those who attacked for no good reason. One of them was crippled in a car accident, and now he spends the rest of his life being spoon fed. Till this day I'm still happy he suffers, I know it isn't right and I'm sorry but it took him out of my mind now that he got his.

 

[Mycroft Holmes]

...we settled things with fists. One of us usually got the point after that.

Wouldn't a more apt solution to the bullying problem be to teach kids to stand up for themselves and others?

Yeah lets teach kids to solve their problems with punching! What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Dire Sloth]

I am so thankful that my high school years were bully free.

 

[Simon Pettersson]

TOPIC:

Is the issue of bullying in the states a serious matter as presented in the media? Should kids learn to stand up for themselves? What are your personal experiences of bullying and how you handled them? What do you think of bulling overall?


(bullies, bully's, having a hard time with the English language.)

Thank you.

Bullying is a problem in the whole world not only in the states. But I think it's much worse then what you see in the media.

Yes kids should learn how to stand up for themselves, but that doesn't always help when you are alone against a whole school.
What are you gonna do about it? Beat them all? Shoot them?
You feel all alone even if that's not true, so the first thing is to find someone you can trust and share your story with. I was bullied by maybe one or two classmates, but I tried to ignore them. Didn't help much though.

 

[darklilac]

What the...? I was bullied my entire childhood. When I was in elementary school, kids would throw pencils, pens, erasers, sharpeners, and cups at me. I told the people watching us(this was an after school program to babysit kids until their parents picked them up), and they didn't give a shit. They told me to deal. There was a boy much younger than me, but that didn't stop him from torturing me. When I'd be walking around he'd come up behind me and kick me, kick the back of my knees as I walked to make me fall, and called me ugly and fat daily. I can't even remember how many times I told him to stop. He never did.
When I finally had enough I either bit or kicked him, can't remember. Anyways, his MUCH older brother, ran over and attacked me. Calling me a ***** and telling me I deserved to be beaten. He kicked me and slapped and punched me. When I managed to get away, I ran away crying to the girls room. He tried to follow me, but the teacher stopped him. He didn't get in trouble. But I did. Apparently I'm not allowed to stick up for myself.
Yes, fighting back wasn't the best idea, but I was... hmmm in 3rd or 4th grade. The teachers wouldn't help, none of the other students would help, I was alone.

Once I started middle school it started right back up again. Guys throwing basketballs and baseballs at my face, calling me ugly and fat every day. I've been severely depressed since I was around 11-12. Once I got to highschool, kids were stepping on me on purpose when I sat in the hallway during lunch(I was against the wall mind you!), throw their food and drinks at me, push me into doors.... It goes on and on.
Girls aren't taught to stand up for ourselves. That would be unlady-like. The thing is no one wants to get involved, teachers don't care as they have enough shit to deal with, and parents usually just respond with "tell the teachers/principals!". Also it was pretty much always boys doing this. I don't even want to hear the "they only do it cause they have a crush on you!". That is bull.
My female friend got attacked in middle school by 3-4 other girls. She got expelled for trying to fight back, but only one of the girls that attacked her got in trouble.

After elementary school I ignored all the abuse I took, thinking that if I didn't acknowledge them or give them what they wanted they'd stop bullying me. I had become so tired of trying to stick up for myself I just gave up. It didn't work.

I pretty much have a fear of men at this point if you also add in all the abuse my ex put me through when I was young, including threatening to kill me multiple times... Well it's really not all that far-fetched. At 20, I'm still suffering and going to therapy.

I'd say bullying is never okay. It's not okay to just tell someone to "deal with it". Why are we protecting the bullies? We shouldn't be supporting the idea that being cruel and violent towards each other is okay. Especially not while kids. Shouldn't we be supporting children working together and accepting each other? No, it is NOT a perfect world. But at the very least not letting bullying go unpunished should be the bare minimum. The victims are usually silent as they feel they deserve it or are silenced by either their bullies, peers or even their teachers/parents. It's not as simple as just saying parents should teach kids how to stand up for themselves. I don't know about all cases, but every time I tried to, I was punished for it. At this point, all the hatred is etched into me.

 

[Strazdas]

Most responses to bullies seem to be running away from the problem or shirking off the responsibility of the problem to a third party, RATHER then dealing with the issue yourself.

Maybe I'm old school, but in life, you can't wait for someone else to rescue you from your problems.

thats because its not my responsibility to be bullied. if there is a bully he must be punished for it. by a third party. standing up to bullies lead you hanging on a cross - literary.
in real life, we call people who take care of bullies police.

 

[MagunBFP]

A lesson I learnt very early on in high school is even if a bully is a coward, standing up to him/them might not work... it might just lead to further escalation. Within the first week of high school I was bullied by a guy, I stood up for myself and he went home with a bloodied nose, as a result 2 things happened first was we were given detention for fighting (the bully blamed that on me)... the second was he and his friends bullied me instead, one on one I gave as good as I got but in groups well it turns out right doesn't always make enough might. Even if I could beat them all, violent cowards will always blame their target and I have no doubt knives or other weapons would have been involved soon enough.

I was able to stand up for myself, and in general thats my advice, but I know it doesn't always work and only an idiot would imagine that there is one foolproof way of dealing with bullies... and if you are that idiot well how would you like to know a surefire way to get a woman to sleep with you 100% success rate, what do you mean that's impossible?

OP you're blaming the victim of bulling for inflicting the knowledge of the crime on someone else, or making the victim responsible for punishing the criminal. Society doesn't work that way, if you're bullied at work you make a complaint and it gets dealt with by the company, so why should children be expected to handle it themselves and telling a teacher or principal be the wrong thing?

Reminds me of a news story recently where a child was given plastic surgury to make her prettier so the bulling would stop, when I heard that I was disgusted no one deserves to be bullied for any reason fixing what you're being bullied about just proves to the bully that the were right and that bulling has made the victim a better person.

 

[Luna]

The OP is right. lol at the strawman arguments in response to OP, 'no one deserves to be bullied'. Nice try.

Care to elaborate on how the OP is right? Is it the victim blaming? Or the inferred cowardice of putting pressure on the victim rather then confronting the bully? I mentioned this earlier already, but if your strong enough to stand up for yourself, what's stopping you from standing up for others?

lmao. the first thing I do in my initial post is criticize the strawmen arguments in response to OP. and then the person that challenges me uses a strawman argument. 'hur dur, he thinks it must be the victim's fault because he thinks standing up to bullies can sometimes be the right thing to do'

Apart from having no backbone of course.

what's stopping me from standing up from others is that sometimes they're in... oh i don't know... a different location to myself.

The irony of the OPs position is that his "logic" equates to bullying anyway. He assumes that the act of bullying stems from a fault in the victim and is merely exploited by the bully. That the victim has an inherent flaw and it's their responsibility to sort out. He forgets that bullying can in fact induce this flaw. A bully can whittle down a persons will until they become incapable of standing up for themselves, which in turn, emboldens the bullies actions.

The irony of your position is that you criticize OP for bullying and challenge him, making you the bully.


^I seriously think calling you a bully is ridiculous, but is equally ridiculous as your assertion that he is a bully. Anyway...

What's more he forgets that bullies are RARELY individual threats, but instead a group of peers who derive pleasure from tormenting an individual. These are bullies that initiate and incessantly pursue aggressive/oppressive actions towards the victim. But we also have another sort, the ones who sit on the sides and let it happen, feeling some smug satisfaction or sense of superiority over the victim.

You, and the OP, are the latter.

Boy, you don't know a thing about me. So don't pretend you do. I've probably done things that you wouldn't have the courage to.

This logic makes him (quite blatantly) unsympathetic to victims of bullying and ultimately belittles the struggles of said victims. Given the right situation, I wouldn't be surprised if he would harass someone or physically intimidate them himself, whether that person is deserving of it or not. You see, he has already convinced himself that the bully is not the problem, but the person with no courage to rebel against the bully is. So he would think all he's doing is giving the poor sod a taste of real life, rather then being completely objective about it and seeing that he's just being a fucking dick.

don't call the OP a fucking dick, please. I don't appreciate this bullying behavior.

What you said is basically a strawman argument anyway so I'll quickly say that you're a manipulative over assuming individual who believes what he wants to believe.

As I said earlier. If you actively promote opposing bullies, then why the fuck don't you act as you preach? Are bullies only a bully if they are bullying you? No. Then why not stand up to bullies on principle?

Oh yeah, the aforementioned absence of a backbone might be why.

who says I don't? You might as well go stand in a field and scare off crows because this man of straw is overwhelming.

 

[Luna]

The OP is right. lol at the strawman arguments in response to OP, 'no one deserves to be bullied'. Nice try.

Gee what a persuasive argument! I am swayed and now think the OP is right!

...Actually, no, I don't. Wanna put some actual THOUGHT into it?

I mean, me and a few other bared our souls here, and make freakin' essays, detailing our personal experiences and how "manning up" was either impossible or would have gone against our very natures.

lol at you for trying to deny that there are bullies in the world, and/or that standing up to them can be the right thing to do sometimes.


At least in a workplace perspective, telling on them is the best thing to do, sure. But on a non professional level, you can't tell on somebody for being mean to you, (unless they harass you to the point where you can get an actual restraining order).

 

[Sight Unseen]

Is your name by any chance a reference to this song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXZpqORcuFM

Why yes it is I think you're the first person whose ever noticed that.

When I used to play a certain MMO, they came up with a system at one point that let you change your username, and since I had grown out of my current username I tried to find a better one. I was looking for one that sounded cool and kind of witty, and was also a reference to something I liked, and I came upon that song, and it was perfect. Even though the song itself is kind of meh, the title is awesome and I use it for everything now

 

[RedDeadFred]

Sorry but I think making a big issue of it is actually the right thing. Kids need to be aware of just how devastating their bullying can be on some people. We had really big anti bullying systems in my high school and as a result, most people got along pretty well. There were a few people who had less friends but there weren't any fights going on.

Just dealing with it is not the right answer. If you break the rules in school, you need to be held accountable by the school itself, not just having the kid try his/her best to stand up to you. It's the same thing when you are an adult. If you assault someone, that's breaking the law. You should be arrested. Your victim shouldn't have to stand up to you. That's often just asking for more trouble.

 

[goodman528]

... ...

It's more complicated than that, not every bullying problem can be solved by standing up to them. Sometimes, it will just make you seem violent and stand out from the crowd even more, and that may be the problem you are trying to solve in the first place.

I'm sure this has been said before in the 7 pages before me, but really, every situation is different and require a different solution. But violence is not the solution, unless you can totally dominate the other party, but even then it may not be the end, this is how gang wars get started.

 

[lunavixen]

I was bullied for 10 out of 13 school years, it affects you more than you think, the bullies that went after me were utterly vindictive and nearly impossible to get away from, over those 10 years, the bullying was both physical (i got punched, kicked, spat on, had things thrown at me, i was even pushed down a flight of concrete stairs) and verbal (you name it, they probably said it) and i had done nothing to them to start it. it got to the point i had to spend all of my lunchtimes in the library because it was about the only safe haven for me, the library was the only place i could get away from it. the bullying has left my self esteem in tatters, even now, after it has stopped

captcha - souffle girl... i hate souffles captcha...

 

[Mr F.]

Bullying has been HUGE in the states of recent years. "HUGE" in the sense that it's been in the media more, not that it hasn't been around.

Growing up, I experienced my fair share of bullying. Ranged from insults, to actual fights. But, I was taught to always stand up to bullies and stick up for others who were being bullied. Disagreements or bullies that took things to far usually ended up in the park, where we settled things with fists. One of us usually got the point after that.

The issue is this. WHY is bullying being presented in such a way today that it seems to make people want to jump off tall building?

Yea, it sucks, I get that. But in life, bullies will always be around. In fact, you can still find them in the grown up world. They just usually come from the back with a knife instead of a punch in the face.

Wouldn't a more apt solution to the bullying problem be to teach kids to stand up for themselves and others? The most common solutions that are being presented today are some of the most asinine things.

1. Telling a teacher
2. Ignoring it
3. ETC.

Most responses to bullies seem to be running away from the problem or shirking off the responsibility of the problem to a third party, RATHER then dealing with the issue yourself.

Maybe I'm old school, but in life, you can't wait for someone else to rescue you from your problems.

TOPIC:

Is the issue of bullying in the states a serious matter as presented in the media? Should kids learn to stand up for themselves? What are your personal experiences of bullying and how you handled them? What do you think of bulling overall?


(bullies, bully's, having a hard time with the English language.)

Thank you.

Normally I would write you a fucking essay explaining why your entire viewpoint is just a bunch of masochistic macho bullshit and how you are projecting yourself onto others and expecting them to have the same capability to deal with bullshit as yourself. But since my girlfriend is here and demanding that I make this brief, however amusing she may find it, I will have to summarise my essential viewpoint thus:

- Not all bullying can be solved with violence. Not all bullying can be solved fullstop. Not everyone can simply ignore things, not everyone can win that fight, not everyone has somewhere to turn and run.

- Bullying comes in grades. Seriously. Someone being called a shithead for their shithead views could be classed as bullying. Someone being viciously followed, stalked, having vicious rumours spread about them, being forced out of their lessons, being forced out of school, being systematically torn to pieces on a daily basis in both emotional and phsyical ways, that is ALSO bullying.

- Violence solves nothing.

Ok, Puppy dog eyes. I have to stop. Seriously.

Fuck anyone who blames the victim.

Interesting.
This is part of the reason why I never participate in bullying arguments and conversations.

I was bullied for as long as I can remember, more often than not it was physical... For my ethnicity, my last name, my attitude (I was always antagonistic to others by nature), opinions, appearance and eventually because I wasn't fighting back. and I did fight back, and it solved problems. Then when I got bullied for fighting back, you know - coz kids are cunts - I continued.

Violence has solved most of my problems, and my violence has solved the problems of friends, and has gotten me paid exceedingly well.
Bullying (in my eyes, and my eyes alone) will never be stopped, and should never be 'fully eradicated' in the same way I hope world peace never occurs.
but I'm aware this isn't the common view, not everyone can fight, not everyone is willing to fight, not everyone is willing to risk their future with a criminal record, (I'm not glorifying this here. That's a potential risk, and it fucks shit up), and there's nothing I can do about any of that.
My little cousin listened to the teachers opinion, the brochures/pamphlets at school, his parents, my parents, his grandma and all that about dealing with bullying. It didn't work. Eventually he took my route and stuck sewing (sowing? I don't know how to spell it) scissors into the kids gut. After a year and a half of non-stop physical, emotional and cyber- bullying. You know what happened? He got suspended for a month, had to go to some anger-management bullshit class, and the bullying stopped overnight.
He hasn't been bullied since and it's been nearly 2 years now.

This is why I don't partake in these arguments.

Captcha: You are happy.

I find some posts on bullying threads hilarious. You and the other guy who quoted me have both talked about how violence solved your issue right up. And yes, there is the occasional case of that working. But it makes me wonder what country you are in. Cause stabbing a kid in the gut with scissors would get you into Juvi over in the UK. Then I get to your views on violence as a whole and I realise that most of your argument falls flat because you seem to love violence.

One of the main problems here is people think that bullying is so black and white. Bullying comes in so many forms, some of those forms more damaging than others. From a personal perspective, 'Bullying' or at least the logical extension thereof forced me to leave a city I used to love dearly. I shit you not. Things had genuinely got to the point where I was no longer safe in the college I was attending, I was no longer safe outside that college, I was univeraslly hated throughout the town I was living in and that cancer was slowly spreading further. So I had to up sticks and leave.

That is the kind of fallout that comes from 'bullying'. And no, it is not possible to fight your way out of that sort of situation. Was I supposed to beat the crap out of my ex and her best friend for the rumours they were spreading? Really? What would that have solved? Absolutely nothing. It would have made the situation far worse.

Bullying is a complex issue. It is not so black and white, it is mostly grey. And whilst violence can sometimes be an answer, it is never THE answer. When people say 'Boys will be boys' it makes me want to cut people, when people say 'Bullying is natural' it makes me want to burn people. Education is the answer to this shit, education and talking. Ignorance is the source of violence and bullying. Eradicate ignorance, eradicate issues.

I hate this victim blaming mentality. It is not my fault I dated a crazy person who then destroyed my life with the help of another crazy person. Its not my fault I was powerless to stop this. And I know I am not a case study for all bullyin, I know there are people out there who can take the power back and stop how they are being treated.

But should they have to? Or should the assholes making their life hell be stopped?