Bullying: Stop the complaining.

[CharrHearted]

Stop complaining?

Due to bullying my brother had a sharp metal steel pipe shoved straight into his right ass cheek ripping half the flesh off his arse.

You think we should just stop complaining?

FUCK off.

 

[Judas_Iscariot]

Mhm, so in other words you have a simplistic view of society. What you seem not to realize is that society tend to view social Darwinists as flawed.

Stating your personal opinion then pretending society shares it is hardly a compelling point.

 

[CharrHearted]

Bullying is good. It encourages people who are behaving strangely or failing to develop social skills to do so. It's social Darwinism, being bullied because you are fat? Lose weight. Being bullied because you creep girls out? Start learning to pick girls who are actually interested in you. Bullied for being a slut? Stop spreading your legs for anyone who takes you out once. Bullied for being gay? Stop being so flamboyant.

And if you'd rather not change who you are, then fight back and earn your right to be different.

Society is not responsible for protecting you from mean people. Someone who is abnormal, bases their opinion of themselves on what other people think, is to weak to mount a defense, to stubborn to change, to unlikeable to get others to help, and to unintelligent to strike back verbally or with some sort of clever scheme deserves what they get: they were never going to contribute anything meaningful to society anyways.

Adapt or die.

So we should follow the sheep? Sorry, but i'd rather die than change my own beliefs. My beliefs are strong in my culture, my way of life, my sexuality and my likes. You believe I should change just to live? You're a monster. A virus, you try to corrupt but you can't corrupt those who have faith in themselves...

Stop being Irish, Stop being Rebellious, stop being gay, stop liking this or that... It won't happen. Diversity is what makes us bring out ideas together and succeed for a world of many faces... Take your social darwinism someplace else and if you're up to it, shove that Adapt or die shit straight in your arse, Because i'd rather die than have some bastard like you tell me how to live my life.

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Mhm, so in other words you have a simplistic view of society. What you seem not to realize is that society tend to view social Darwinists as flawed.

Stating your personal opinion then pretending society shares it is hardly a compelling point.

Ummm....The same could be said for your point too, you know...

 

[Aglynugga]

I laughed at a fat kids once and another time threw a donut at him but he ended up eating it anways. Am I a bully?

 

[Jzolr0708]

You're right. No one DESERVES to be bullied, but it's going to happen. Give me an example of where you can't just "deal with it." Also, give me some solutions to said bullying that works. Telling a teacher and ignoring it are two options (that in my life) have NEVER worked.

My older brother was bullied mercilessly during his sophmore year of high school. Being 5'5 and 130 pounds, him trying to kick the 6'2 wrestler's ass was kind of out of the question. He didn't want to tell the teacher because that was the "childish" thing to do, but after they kicked the shit out of him after school, he did just that. Fun thing about teachers, when they see a child with a broken nose and black eye, they tend to take this shit seriously. The kids who were bullying him were pulled into the office the next day where police officers sat down and had a nice chat about assault laws and the wonders of being expelled and arrested. So yes, telling a teacher can help. I don't know about where you grew up, but in my experience, the kids who can defend themselves and kick the crap out of their bullies aren't the ones being bullied. It's the small kids, the ones who are shy or depressed, and, sadly enough, sometimes the mentally handicapped. Bullying and petty teasing are very different things, and the former is not something that is generally such an easy fix as "punching the other guy."

 

[Jzolr0708]

Bullying is good. It encourages people who are behaving strangely or failing to develop social skills to do so. It's social Darwinism, being bullied because you are fat? Lose weight. Being bullied because you creep girls out? Start learning to pick girls who are actually interested in you. Bullied for being a slut? Stop spreading your legs for anyone who takes you out once. Bullied for being gay? Stop being so flamboyant.

And if you'd rather not change who you are, then fight back and earn your right to be different.

Society is not responsible for protecting you from mean people. Someone who is abnormal, bases their opinion of themselves on what other people think, is to weak to mount a defense, to stubborn to change, to unlikeable to get others to help, and to unintelligent to strike back verbally or with some sort of clever scheme deserves what they get: they were never going to contribute anything meaningful to society anyways.

Adapt or die.

So we should follow the sheep? Sorry, but i'd rather die than change my own beliefs. My beliefs are strong in my culture, my way of life, my sexuality and my likes. You believe I should change just to live? You're a monster. A virus, you try to corrupt but you can't corrupt those who have faith in themselves...

Stop being Irish, Stop being Rebellious, stop being gay, stop liking this or that... It won't happen. Diversity is what makes us bring out ideas together and succeed for a world of many faces... Take your social darwinism someplace else and if you're up to it, shove that Adapt or die shit straight in your arse, Because i'd rather die than have some bastard like you tell me how to live my life.

Sorry for double post, but this. Just this. As I mentioned before, a lot of the time victims of bullying are MENTALLY HANDICAPPED. Want to tell me that the kid with autism who doesn't even harm anyone deserves to be shit on every day? Sorry mate, but I'm not gonna sit there and let someone innocent be harmed because of "Darwinism."

 

[aegix drakan_v1legacy]

Bullying is good. It encourages people who are behaving strangely or failing to develop social skills to do so. It's social Darwinism, being bullied because you are fat? Lose weight. Being bullied because you creep girls out? Start learning to pick girls who are actually interested in you. Bullied for being a slut? Stop spreading your legs for anyone who takes you out once. Bullied for being gay? Stop being so flamboyant.

And if you'd rather not change who you are, then fight back and earn your right to be different.

Society is not responsible for protecting you from mean people. Someone who is abnormal, bases their opinion of themselves on what other people think, is to weak to mount a defense, to stubborn to change, to unlikeable to get others to help, and to unintelligent to strike back verbally or with some sort of clever scheme deserves what they get: they were never going to contribute anything meaningful to society anyways.

Adapt or die.

So we should follow the sheep? Sorry, but i'd rather die than change my own beliefs. My beliefs are strong in my culture, my way of life, my sexuality and my likes. You believe I should change just to live? You're a monster. A virus, you try to corrupt but you can't corrupt those who have faith in themselves...

Stop being Irish, Stop being Rebellious, stop being gay, stop liking this or that... It won't happen. Diversity is what makes us bring out ideas together and succeed for a world of many faces... Take your social darwinism someplace else and if you're up to it, shove that Adapt or die shit straight in your arse, Because i'd rather die than have some bastard like you tell me how to live my life.

Sorry for double post, but this. Just this. As I mentioned before, a lot of the time victims of bullying are MENTALLY HANDICAPPED. Want to tell me that the kid with autism who doesn't even harm anyone deserves to be shit on every day? Sorry mate, but I'm not gonna sit there and let someone innocent be harmed because of "Darwinism."

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Except that social darwinists will typically think this:

AH, but you see he wasn't innocent since he was autistic and thus his very existence is a Crime against nature! I mean...what if he reproduces! IMAGINE THE DAMAGE THAT WOULD DO TO THE HUMAN RACE IF HIS DNA CONTAMINATES THE FUTURE!!!!!1


Of course, I think this type of logic is BS. Because it is.

 

[blackrave]

As usually it is complicated question and I don't think I can talk about any possible case
From my viewpoint this is simple
1.If a guy bullies you try diplomacy, if it ain't working ignore him, if ignoring becomes impossible, send him to hospital
2.If a group of guys bullies you, locate the leader of the group, then see point 1.
3.If a girls bullies you then diplomacy and ignoring is only things you can do

I personally never had a problems with guys- they knew that I won't go down without a fight
Some high school girls on the other hand made my life pretty miserable- when I tried to talk them down, they just made fun of me, when I tried to ignore them, they became physical (pushing, slapping my ass and stroking my hair was usual thing in those moments)
I couldn't run away, because I was goddamn slow back in school
And I couldn't exactly damage them (due to upbringing and them being in high school- if I tried anything violent, I most probably would be beaten up by their peers and back then-12 to 14 years- even I couldn't stand against them)
And the worst part was that whenever I tried to bring it up with teachers or parents I got laughed at, ignored or they made things even worse (because when boy is bullied by a girls nobody takes this seriously)
So sometimes even complaining isn't possible

 

[Ragsnstitches]

It's social Darwinism,

Why do you think that's something that's good?

Because certain traits (Being unintelligent, being morbidly obese, lacking any semblance of social skills) are traits that hurt both the individual and society. Hence the individual ought to work to change the traits. Social skills can be improved through practice, weight can be lost with determination and effort, and poor intelligence can be marginally increased with reading and math practice.

Changing these traits is not easy, so people need a hefty motivation to put in the massive amount of work required. That motivation comes in the form of peer pressure, in this discussion "bullying"

Really it's amazing to what lengths people will defend their "right" to have a personal flaw, despite it being entirely possible to work to overcome or conceal that flaw.

The only exception to this I will give is sexuality, as it isn't a choice nor is it something which can be worked to overcome.

You know, being an immense asshole is also considered a flaw. Lacking empathy or even basic sympathy is liable to get someone labelled as a sociopath and a person who is unable to control their impulses can be considered a psychopath.

People who can't control their urges, whether it's sex drive, aggression or egotism, or are unable to reach out to others, are harmful to society.

Flaws aren't just weaknesses to the self, they are weaknesses to the group. Bullying is a flaw. By your logic it should be weeded out. Doubly so considering it can cause the "flaws" you thing should be taken out.

Holy shit some people. Such arrogance and audaciousness. Do you think your some sort of social paragon? Who the fuck are you to judge?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not so far up my own ass to decide who is fit to live in this world. Everyone deserves a chance, help when needed and treatment all other avenues fail. Social Darwinism is just a not-so-clever way to disguise your own insecurities, by smugly mocking the fatal flaws of others.

 

[Blaster]

Having just done a major 10 minute presentation on this subject, the only viable "solution" is for students to band together and help each other out. By giving bullies and audience, they are in a sense "telling" the bully that what they're doing will give them some sort of attention.

 

[Judas_Iscariot]

A few clarifications.

My original post never claimed to represent what society thought, whereas the initial criticism of my post consisted of nothing except "Society disagrees with you", which is neither outlining your personal opinion on the matter or truly criticizing mine. My initial post was outlining my system of thought and opinions on the matter, yours was an appeal to the authority of the masses.

On the post stating that you would rather die than change who you are, Great! That is exactly the attitude you need. Someone with that sort of resolve is not likely to let a few bullies get to them, either through sheer mental fortitude or through more direct confrontation. My post is not aimed at those such as yourself, rather at the weak.

Secondly, the rest of the posts quoting me have been in regards to my apparent lack of empathy, and one discussed autism. Touching on the Autism point, they should not be in public school if they have a crippling mental handicap. They should be in a school for the mentally handicapped, where if they get bullied it will be by other autistic children. Having mentally handicapped children in public school is a mistake and not something I endorse. Although I do agree with the point, brought up in an attempt to mock me, that they should not reproduce. Not out of fear of their passing along their genetics, but because I don't think a mentally handicapped person would be capable of parenting well. It takes more than love to raise a child.

On the lack of empathy being itself a poor trait to possess: I agree that it is. I don't consider myself a sociopath, but if I were I would not be stupid enough to overtly display that trait to my peers, for fear of the repercussions (unless that very lack of fear is your definition of a sociopath, in which case the discussion really isn't applicable). Hence my original post, because anyone who did overtly display a character flaw as apparent as complete disregard for society would deserve as much bullying as anyone else.

 

[samess1997]

Had to get back on to discuss this. Being a student at the time of writing, bullying is a much smaller problem then presented. Some view it as the end of the world, but it isn't. Those people who kill themselves were doing something wrong, god love them. They should have done something if it was bad enough to kill themselves. I have run the gauntlet of bullying, and it can seem bad, but it isn't bad enough to kill yourself over. I can understand if there were some outstanding mental health conditions, but otherwise they made a mistake. Back a while ago there was a slew of gay teen suicides in September (Rise Against wrote a song about it I believe.). As a gay teen who was bullied, I discovered something: you need help. I had religion. Not anything organized, but just a simple belief got me through it. I don't think that's the right solution for everyone, but some support is needed, from any source. Sorry if this was rambley, but writing is not one of my skills.

 

[Dastardly]

Most responses to bullies seem to be running away from the problem or shirking off the responsibility of the problem to a third party, RATHER then dealing with the issue yourself.

Maybe I'm old school, but in life, you can't wait for someone else to rescue you from your problems.

As someone who "survived" bullying, I feel there are some things that many don't quite get. Now, yes, there were times I "fixed" the problem by standing up for myself -- that is, by fighting back -- but the problem is this is not a universal solution. In fact, it rarely does a damn thing to stop the bullying.

Calling on kids to "stand up for themselves" makes several incorrect and dangerous assumptions. Firstly, it assumes that everyone is equal, such that each victim has the ability to stand up to each bully. Secondly, it assumes that fights are fair. Thirdly, it assumes that fights are final.

Bullying is different from kids fighting, arguing, or making fun of one another. Bullying is specifically targeted, and true bullies choose their victims quite carefully to avoid the possibility of the victim fighting back.

1. The victim is usually smaller, weaker, or otherwise physically disadvantaged. Sure, you can "fight back," but it likely will not end well. It doesn't matter how black your belt is, if someone has 60 pounds on you, you're going to get worse than you give unless they're just abysmally bad at fighting... which brings us to:

2. The bully is usually far more experienced in fighting. A lot of times, they come from backgrounds in which fighting is the norm -- and experience matters. Asking most kids to stand up to a bully is like asking a fish to fight on land. You're out of your element, and you're in his.

3. The victim is usually already socially outcast. That's what makes for a "safe" victim. If they don't have friends, no one is there to come to their rescue. This greatly increases the likelihood that any fights are going to, numerically, tip toward the bully (who nearly always has a "pack").

Basically, the bully has carefully selected a victim specifically to avoid any semblance of a fair fight. They've got the home court advantage, they have numbers on their side, and they're just plain bigger and stronger in nearly every case. The victim's only hope is, in a nutshell, to either avoid the situation, or make sure they've got someone bigger (ie, adults) watching out for them. It's foolishness to tell the victims to fight on the bully's terms.

 

[Patathatapon]

As many other previous people have said, bullying is MUCH more difficult to deal with because of the lack of tolerance on violence. Also if the Simpsons and most other media should have taught you anything, is that the higher power never helps.

Take me for example, I'm in high school, get teased, bullied, etc. but I caught Hands foot and mouth forcing me to miss a few weeks of school. I need to keep my attendance up or I get to repeat the year, and with scheduled doctor's appointments and stuff, I can't AFFORD to fight back or I'll be completely fucked.

In short, bullying cannot be easily coped with when you've got few enough options that make things even worse. Oh and extra note: the people who jump off building's usually have depression, and as someone WITH depression, It's already hard enough to deal with the bullshit in your head, so those fuckers do a great job at piling it on.

 

[xDarc]

The solution was simple enough, hit the weight bench and fight back. By 10th grade I was 5'6", 135lbs and could bench press 270. People continued to pick on me because I was smaller than them, but one day after someone hit me in the face I just wrapped my hands around their throat, lifted them up into the air and squeezed.

Said it before, I'll say it again;

I GET the notion of that solution. I really do. Hell, it feels right to my gut. Shit, I only ended my bullying after I stabbed someone with a no.2 pencil. Something about a knifepoint rape and getting through it left me very tired of being a victim.

But escalation is a real and valid worry as well.

Yea, what would have stopped that kid you choked from coming back the next day with a knife or a pistol, or to point a shotgun into your car and turn you into Jules Winfield's car near the end of Pulp Fiction? As stated, a bully could just have want the power he had over you back and would go to stupid lengths to get it. Could have happened to me too.

Well I don't know the circumstances behind what happened to you, but if it went that far I would say you would have been justified to kill the person while they had a knife... what I cannot understand is why you did not just go to the police after the fact. Rape crosses the line from bullying way out into federal offense territory w/ long term prison time. No local cop brushing it off as boys will be boys there. I know it's scary, but rape is not just bullying anymore and rapists have to be stopped.

I had a gf once who was violently raped at college, the rapist scarred the inside of her vagina using a broken bottle, and she didn't go to the police. A couple months later, the same guy killed the next girl he picked for his victim. It really fucked her up to know that this guy was able to kill that girl because she didn't go to the police, her words. There were 4 others who came forward too. They all testified in court, but it took him having to kill a girl and get caught with a body before it stopped.

The whole thing has shaped her life. Not long after we split she started dating lesbians. There were times during sex that she would just stop, freak out and curl up in a ball. She really wanted to be with me but there was so many other things about her that were just, crazy. Too much yelling at me and sometimes she hit me. I split.

 

[runic knight]

Horse shit. Sorry, but that is just pure horse shit.

At no point is rape, assault, bullying or anything of that nature justified. The mindset here is the same about having a fancy car and showing it off. Yes, it does increase the risk of being noticed and thus increases the risk of shit happening to it, but that in no way means that victim tossed their rights away.

You're constructing a straw man. I'm not saying they deserve anything. In fact I explicitly stated the opposite. What I'm saying is that when the victim has a mechanism to avoid the problem, not pointing it out because they're a victim is a failure.

In the case of a rape victim, there are often ways the victim could have avoided the situation entirely. That they did not does not mean they intended or desired the rape - simply that they had a means available to avoid it. Standing on a hill and crying about how it isn't fair that precautions need to be taken is an excellent sob story that accomplishes nothing. A victim is a tragedy but that doesn't mean that pointing out how they can avoid such things in the future is wrong.

The same is true of bullying. In many cases there is plenty a bullying victim can do to resolve the problem. The bully is still the villain - that doesn't mean the victim needs to continue being a victim.

Perhaps I wasn't quite clear in my meaning here. Your argument here rests on the notion that bullying, rape, whatever is somehow unavoidable. The idea of a precaution to prevent something hails from the idea that it is there to be prevented in the first place and thus actions taken or not taken increase or decrease the chance of it occurring. I disagree, I don't think it has to inevitable. Furthermore, in saying they could have done things to avoid it, you are saying that what occurred was somehow justified by the same rational that requires the idea that it is unavoidable in the first place. For an off the wall analogy, you are saying people should always take an umbrella in order to avoid being rain on. If they don't, there is an increased chance of it happening and they could have avoided that. I am saying that we are in a building, that is just faulty sp[sprinklers and we shouldn't have to worry about that shit to begin with, so instead of telling people to cope with it, lets fix the fucking sprinklers instead of inconveniencing everyone who has to deal with it.

Furthermore, you neglected to touch on the whole child-rape thing, even though as a comparison, it works fairly well. In both scenarios you have victims that are targeted, mistreated and through whatever reasons, often have little or no means of defending themselves or preventing it from happening. Do you happen to have any real solutions to preventing bullying? I suppose there are a few cases out there where it might affect, though the usual situation of outsider, quiet and unconfident kids being targeted as easy victims and then bullied is a bit hard to fix, when what you are essentially doing is asking the kid to not be who they are or to mature at a much faster rate then they would naturally all to counter the intentional actions of a bully who shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Th victim has to change whir habits or who they are to counter an issue that has no right to exist in the first place.
I can understand what you are saying here, the idea of decreasing the likelihood and all, but you are going at this the wrong way. The kids, even the socially stunted weird ones just "asking" to be bullied, have every right to be who they are and shouldn't have to change to avoid poor treatment. The real solution is to stop bullies, and unfortunately, trying to attack this issue from the idea of what the victim can do to stop it just does not seem the right way to do it. It gives the wrong message and very much like how saying women shouldn't dress promiscuously to avoid a rape, it DOES present things as what could have been done to avoid their fate, when the fate itself didn't have to exist, let alone be such a constant that people had to change their behavior to avoid it. Bullies shouldn't be the default, rapists shouldn't be the default. And people shouldn't have to change to cater to the weak wills and targeting methods of those who would make them victims.

 

[TehCookie]

Bullying is so varied you can't give generic advice. Telling a teacher doesn't always work, attacking them back doesn't always work, ignoring them doesn't always work. There is no right way or a surefire way that works. Teachers didn't do crap at my school but violence did stop them. Also I'm tiny and weak, fighting doesn't have to do with size it has to do with skill. My bullies were terrible and only knew how to throw punches, to which I'd dodge and knee them in the nuts or trip them and shove their face into the pavement.

 

[Spartan Altego]

Oh boy, bullying thread. Can't resist you, can I?

The main problem here is that whatever "solutions," anybody offers will make no difference or otherwise not apply. I can give you any number of ways to deal with a specific type of bullying or situation. Hell, I'll draw you up a step-by-step if need be. But then another person will come along and give me an account of their hilariously messed up childhood bullying experiences and I'm back to square one. No matter how many options are given here, none apply to all situations. And admin help you if you forget to mention that your idea won't apply to all situations, because everybody who reads will be happy to remind you.

But hey, everybody else is here venting so why not me? Here's a tale from both sides of the fence.

*Incoming Life Story: Reader Beware*

Spoiler

Right, so.

Bullying.

Yeah, I went through it. Hell, I WAS the bully for a few years, which always makes me kind of laugh when many people mention how they wish their own tormentors died or are happy they're dead. I wonder if any the people I messed with ever thought that about me? But I digress. I mellowed out after about three years. I didn't have some great epiphany or experience a big ordeal that changed my perceptions. That shit happens in movies. No, I simply...grew out of it, I suppose. I took up reading, video games. Made some newer, geekier friends and ended up getting glasses because my eyes had been going bad for some time. I'd crossed the fence and found the grass way greener on the other side, and the rivers were... well, ice fucking cold but that's beside the point.

I became quite the nerd and my reputation as a hardass quickly drained away. Then the problems started.

You have to understand, at the time I was The Asshole. The guy you didn't fuck with. I got away with it because the school system had a great habit of punishing both parties and hey, I didn't give a damn. I used those school suspensions as free vacations. I never even got expelled. You hear stories of teachers who just didn't care or were not effective? Yeah, I know what you're talking about. I was that dick who heard you were going down with me and smirked. I was your own personal demon hounding your steps and I loved what I did. My parents were away too often to be particularly effective, although when they were around they really made efforts to straighten me out. I think if I hadn't started to change when I did, I'd have gone to juvenile at some point.

Anyways.

So about a year passes, things are going swell. I'd drawn away from the social groups I used to belong to and became that quiet, smart and somewhat mildly boring kid who never had any good small talk or was too busy reading to pay attention to others. I actually found I preferred it to my old lifestyle.

But those kids I bullied? They came back.

Hard feelings don't even begin to describe. I'd projected my own misery on them (Read: Daddy issues) and later they came back and decided to return the favor. I tried fighting back, but they'd learned since I'd last encountered them. They traveled in groups. I traveled mostly alone. (Read: Irony) You can see where this is going.

The administrative system I once used as a double tap against the kids I bullied worked against me. More often then not, it was me who got the blame on account of being the one with the record. It was fucking hilarious. I was getting my karma paid back doubletime. Slowly but surely it wore me down, I drove my friends away as I relapsed into my old persona and took out my aggression on them instead. I never did get a chance to try and fix those bridges. Of course, having no friends simply made it worse and as time went on I was a regular Shinji Ikari, shying away from any sort of contact that wasn't familial or absolutely necessary. Went through an emo phase, but that shit didn't last long: the whole "cutting myself," gig? Tried once. Stopped the moment the blade touched my skin.

Funnily enough, I never considered suicide. Not once. Because I firmly believe that suicide is a cowardly, selfish way out. It was a non-option. Same or booze or drugs. I preferred music and my bedroom. Porn, sometimes.

Time went on. Ended up latching onto three new friends. We became like brothers. And the bullying eased, because the friends I picked were quite popular around the bonfire and most every one happened to like them. eventually two of them had a disagreement with me and we went our separate ways. The remaining friend was distant and circumstances prevented us from really interacting. I didn't relapse, but things suddenly became much harder to deal with day by day. It came to a boil when I finally snapped and threatened to eviscerate(exact words) those motherfuckers and stream their houses with their guts. Fights broke out. I took more than I dished out.

What followed is unimportant. The events didn't stop. I got more and more depressed but refused to talk to my parents or a shrink about it. Pride and all that. I struggled through my last few years and then. Poof. They were gone. Suddenly my world was a lot brighter. Never saw my victims again.

So yeah, anti climax ending. I ended up reconnecting with my best buddy following school and moved on to bigger and better things. I am a much happier person now. The end.

You'll notice I didn't offer any solutions on how to prevent or stop bullying. That's because there are no sure-fire ways. All the obvious ones have been pointed out and rejected. specifics are useless because of different cases. It all amounts, in the end, to yourself and the people around you. Maybe you'll cave. Maybe you'll fight. Maybe you'll shoot up a subway. Maybe you'll post your sob story on the internet and expect sympathy or for people to care. Maybe you'' come up with a heartfelt song that is just so YOU and expresses how you feel.

Whatever happens, don't give up. Endure. Find another way. Move to another school. Another state. Fight back. Don't fight back. Ignore it. Play it cool. Tell a teacher. Tell the principal. Tell your parents. Talk it out with your tormentors. Don't take the easy way out with a jug of Drano or a skydiving experiment that's a little too close to the ground. You won't live to regret it, but those few who can, do, or will care about you? They will.


Tl;dr
Platitudes. Wall of text. Anti-suicide overtone. Pointless post.

You're very welcome.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

Because certain traits (Being unintelligent, being morbidly obese, lacking any semblance of social skills) are traits that hurt both the individual and society. Hence the individual ought to work to change the traits. Social skills can be improved through practice, weight can be lost with determination and effort, and poor intelligence can be marginally increased with reading and math practice.

Changing these traits is not easy, so people need a hefty motivation to put in the massive amount of work required. That motivation comes in the form of peer pressure, in this discussion "bullying"

Really it's amazing to what lengths people will defend their "right" to have a personal flaw, despite it being entirely possible to work to overcome or conceal that flaw.

The only exception to this I will give is sexuality, as it isn't a choice nor is it something which can be worked to overcome.

This is stupid and I shouldn't even have to describe why.
Criticizing personal flaws and bullying are two very different things. The peer-pressure you're talking about is most certainly not bullying.

I know because I've been bullied. Bullies are dumb sadistic people.