Bungie Scuttled Halo: Reach's Multiplayer Space Battles

[Atmos Duality]

Space Combat sims is what I am missing lately. I love the Wing Commander days. I hope Bungie can realize this under Activision's reign.

That requires Activision to take a chance, and that just doesn't fit into their business plan.

They probably don't see much of a demand for that genre on consoles, and as we all know, only consoles matter to Activision (by far most of their games are made primarily for Xbox 360, then later ported to other systems).

These big publishers love killing niche genres. It means fewer games they have to compete with.

 

[Mcface]

I think he means "we will make another Halo game set in space using space combat to drain this franchise some more"

wow your late, don't you know? Bungie isn't working on Halo anymore, Reach was their last Halo game, at least for 10 years.

No, i just stopped caring about halo a while ago.

 

[Bitter_one13]

How the heck did you forget to mention the last great space fighter combat sim, Freespace 2?

It's directly descended from X-Wing Alliance.
No really. Same team, same engine (with some tweaks).

TIE Fighter -> X-Wing -> Freespace -> Freespace 2

All great games in a dead genre.

I'm sorry, where did you read that or find that out at? I never have heard that before.

 

[megs1120]

God, I hope Reach ends up bringing back the space combat sim, it's been way too long since I've played one that wasn't a fan project.

 

[Atmos Duality]

How the heck did you forget to mention the last great space fighter combat sim, Freespace 2?

It's directly descended from X-Wing Alliance.
No really. Same team, same engine (with some tweaks).

TIE Fighter -> X-Wing -> Freespace -> Freespace 2

All great games in a dead genre.

I'm sorry, where did you read that or find that out at? I never have heard that before.

I played the games myself.
The similarities are obvious, from the design of the interface, to the graphics engine, to the command shortcuts. Even the ability to summon reinforcements and re-arm your ship are handled in the same exact manner between Freespace 1 and X-Wing Alliance.

That's far too similar to be a coincidence.

 

[The Bandit]

How the heck did you forget to mention the last great space fighter combat sim, Freespace 2?

It's directly descended from X-Wing Alliance.
No really. Same team, same engine (with some tweaks).

TIE Fighter -> X-Wing -> Freespace -> Freespace 2

All great games in a dead genre.

I'm sorry, where did you read that or find that out at? I never have heard that before.

I played the games myself.
The similarities are obvious, from the design of the interface, to the graphics engine, to the command shortcuts. Even the ability to summon reinforcements and re-arm your ship are handled in the same exact manner between Freespace 1 and X-Wing Alliance.

That's far too similar to be a coincidence.

That's not what we call "proof" here in the real world. : /

 

[Atmos Duality]

How the heck did you forget to mention the last great space fighter combat sim, Freespace 2?

It's directly descended from X-Wing Alliance.
No really. Same team, same engine (with some tweaks).

TIE Fighter -> X-Wing -> Freespace -> Freespace 2

All great games in a dead genre.

I'm sorry, where did you read that or find that out at? I never have heard that before.

I played the games myself.
The similarities are obvious, from the design of the interface, to the graphics engine, to the command shortcuts. Even the ability to summon reinforcements and re-arm your ship are handled in the same exact manner between Freespace 1 and X-Wing Alliance.

That's far too similar to be a coincidence.

That's not what we call "proof" here in the real world. : /

Call it a curious observation then; not a fact.

But seriously. Either the games were built on the same coding skeleton, or someone was blatantly copying the other.

 

[phoenix352]

i always found space battle sims boring .... you just go around shooting at other things that go around .. thats it , i mean whats the point .....

 

[mattttherman3]

Man, I havn't played Reach since black ops came out. The maps suck and there's not a lot of weapons.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

Isn't Totally Games! still around? If so, then they are the only ones who can bring back the space sim. They perfected it in the first place! C'mon Lawrence Holland, you're our only hope!

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I want a Star Fighter sim game. I loved the old Tie Fighter/Rebel Assault games, and I want them back.

I demand Bungie's next game be either a space sim shooter or Oni.

 

[xXDeMoNiCXx]

Maybe Bungie will get the rights to and work on Star Wars: Battlefront 3. ;D

That's what came to mind when I though "Halo" and "space dogfight". If they could mix the Halo FPS formula with free-flowing space combat, Bungie might might be able to pull off another hit.

I can dream :'(

Nah I think it's better in third-person. Due to my time with Battlefront 2 first-person would be too much of an adjustment.

 

[AsurasFinest]

We do need a decent space combat sim. I'm not talking about the rail shooter bits like most of Star Fox, although that's still a core piece, but something more like Star Fox's "all range mode" where you have an open field and "go nuts" But the linear gameplay I'm nitpicking. There are a bunch of cool ways to make it better and if people decided to finally get off the ground and realize that there are other genres, out there, this'll take off quite well

Something like Rogue Squadron I assume
That was a amazing game

 

[Silver Patriot]

Maybe Bungie will get the rights to and work on Star Wars: Battlefront 3. ;D

That's what came to mind when I though "Halo" and "space dogfight". If they could mix the Halo FPS formula with free-flowing space combat, Bungie might might be able to pull off another hit.

I can dream :'(

Nah I think it's better in third-person. Due to my time with Battlefront 2 first-person would be too much of an adjustment.

In Battlefront 2 you could choose between First and Third Person. It was in the options menu.

 

[Enkidu88]

i always found space battle sims boring .... you just go around shooting at other things that go around .. thats it , i mean whats the point .....

Well the same could be said of an FPS, you just go around shooting people who are shooting at you.

OT: It's a shame they cut space battles from the multiplayer, if it had interested enough people maybe some brave and awesome developer would actually consider reviving the poor space-sim genre. I want my Freespace 3 damnit.

 

[MR T3D]

i always found space battle sims boring .... you just go around shooting at other things that go around .. thats it , i mean whats the point .....

Well the same could be said of an FPS, you just go around shooting people who are shooting at you.

OT: It's a shame they cut space battles from the multiplayer, if it had interested enough people maybe some brave and awesome developer would actually consider reviving the poor space-sim genre. I want my Freespace 3 damnit.

Indeed.

 

[Okysho]

We do need a decent space combat sim. I'm not talking about the rail shooter bits like most of Star Fox, although that's still a core piece, but something more like Star Fox's "all range mode" where you have an open field and "go nuts" But the linear gameplay I'm nitpicking. There are a bunch of cool ways to make it better and if people decided to finally get off the ground and realize that there are other genres, out there, this'll take off quite well

Something like Rogue Squadron I assume
That was a amazing game

Rogue Squadron was good, but it wasn't.... perfect... the dogfighting was a bit broken in some ways, but the way each ship handled differently was amazing and awesome. The Millennium falcon really does handle like a piece of junk!! lol

But if it was built on a similar engine with... well quite a few tweaks, then abso-fucking-lutely it'd be perfect!

 

[xXDeMoNiCXx]

Maybe Bungie will get the rights to and work on Star Wars: Battlefront 3. ;D

That's what came to mind when I though "Halo" and "space dogfight". If they could mix the Halo FPS formula with free-flowing space combat, Bungie might might be able to pull off another hit.

I can dream :'(

Nah I think it's better in third-person. Due to my time with Battlefront 2 first-person would be too much of an adjustment.

In Battlefront 2 you could choose between First and Third Person. It was in the options menu.

Ah. Well, I stick by what I said. XP

 

[VanityGirl]

Maybe Bungie will get the rights to and work on Star Wars: Battlefront 3. ;D

Ah.. If only. My dreams could come true. I love the space battles in Battlefront 2!