Bye bye Rafael Benitez

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arc101

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If your British or someone who follows football (soccer), do you think that the Liverpool manager, Rafael Benitez, like me, should be sacked. He has had an awful season, winning just 4 of 9 games in the Premier League and likely to fail qualifying to the knock out stage of the Champions League.
Do you think he should leave and if so, who should replace him, fanciful or practical?
 

Ciarang

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Football.....
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

Does anyone here actually follow the football?
 

Dudemeister

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No, he should not leave. The season has only just started.
Why do people have to get so hysterical over things like this?
A manager loses a few games and people like you are calling for him to be burned at the stake.
It's the crappy owners who are constantly undermining him who should be kicked out.
 

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Have Liverpool failed to qualify? I knew they drew but I heard that if they did, they had to win the last two. I don't think they should sack him yet. Maybe...about an hour.
 

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Ciarang said:
Football.....
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

Does anyone here actually follow the football?
I don't think there are many of those types around here.
 

D_987

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Yes, I do follow football - and no I don't think he should be sacked. Think about it - who could do a better job than he at the moment? Whoever replaces him isn't going to be able to improve the squad until January anyway - and everyone knows Liverpool are not exactly brilliant without Gerrard; the key reason for their success last season...or any season recently...

Besides which, Liverpool are not exactly in great financial shape at the moment, and sacking Benitez would cost them a lot of money. They are still quite high in the table. No they won't win the league but they aren't out of champions league qualification.

EMFCRACKSHOT said:
I don't think there are many of those types around here.
And all gamers over the age of 12 are fat virgin social rejects who are training to kill people using simulations...yes media stereotypes are pathetic...
 

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EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Ciarang said:
Football.....
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

Does anyone here actually follow the football?
I don't think there are many of those types around here.
Oh, that's nice. But then again, there are no stereotypes attatched to gaming so it's not like you'd understand.
 

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MA7743W said:
No, he should not leave. The season has only just started.
Why do people have to get so hysterical over things like this?
A manager loses a few games and people like you are calling for him to be burned at the stake.
It's the crappy owners who are constantly undermining him who should be kicked out.
Absolutely seconded.

They have lost a few matches... that is not the end of the world. He came close to winning the title last year and a few years ago won the European Cup. His team has been blighted by injuries so far so he hasn't had a run of luck. But he has still been a good manager. I don't like this new trend within football of managers having to deliver instant success all the time. If you look at the two most successful managers in the league (Wenger and Ferguson) they have had the time to build their teams and been giving the breathing space to get on with it.
 

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He did win the Champions League, right? You don't suddenly become a bad manager overnight, the financial problems at Liverpool have screwed him.

But it matters not because the only football team that is worth watching is Doncaster Rovers anyway, and everyone should do so.
 

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GuerrillaClock said:
the financial problems at Liverpool have screwed him.
He's spent a huge amount on a lot of players who have been rather unspectacular over the last few years, and still spent around 40mil+ last summer (I reckon Aquilani is worth it if he stays fit, Johnson fee was better spent on a player like David Silva imo). His buys in the 20mil+ range have been successful (while they usually should be great players for that much, he hasn't bought any players who failed in the premiership like Veron) but for prices below that he just buys too many average players who need to be bailed out by Gerrard or now Torres. While there's been some players that have risen to the challenge of playing at the higher level, Benayoun notably, there's been too many players that haven't handled it like Pennant, Keane, Babel (I've been hearing about his potential for 3 years now), Morientes, Cisse etc.

And he was determined to replace Alonso with Barry, which says it all about his judgement of a player's ability imo.

With such a patchy transfer success rate like that, I can't really see him ever taking Liverpool back to their old position of giants of English football. He's a decent tactician and can galvanise his team to an extent, although the amount of last minute winners his teams used to get have been covering up his team's shortcomings in the last few years.

I reckon he should have gone some time ago really, when Liverpool apparently contacted Klinsmann (although he wouldn't be my choice for them). Perhaps Laudrup, if Real don't lose patience with Pelligrini and get him in first, although I can see Mancini being the preferred choice given his track record of winning titles.

I would not miss Benitez's amateur mind games, and I don't like the style of the team he's made. They just seem to be the unacknowledged masters of snide fouls and sneaky dives to me.

Of course, I'm a West Ham fan so I may just still be bitter over that cup final...
 

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MA7743W said:
EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Ciarang said:
Football.....
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

Does anyone here actually follow the football?
I don't think there are many of those types around here.
Oh, that's nice. But then again, there are no stereotypes attatched to gaming so it's not like you'd understand.
What where have you been of course there are stereotypes attached to gamers.

I think they should Benitez is passed it I dunno who should replace, but there are some really decent managers out there at the moment.
 

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happysock said:
MA7743W said:
EMFCRACKSHOT said:
Ciarang said:
Football.....
Nope, doesn't ring a bell.

Does anyone here actually follow the football?
I don't think there are many of those types around here.
Oh, that's nice. But then again, there are no stereotypes attatched to gaming so it's not like you'd understand.
What where have you been of course there are stereotypes attached to gamers.

I think they should Benitez is passed it I dunno who should replace, but there are some really decent managers out there at the moment.
It.
was.
sarcasm!

And replacing Benitez will not solve Liverpool's problems, why do people think that changing manager will suddenly make them a completely different team? It'll still be the same team, just with a guy in charge that the players don't know or trust. It'd sure be a great way to fuck things up some more though...
 

happysock

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MA7743W said:
happysock said:
Oh, that's nice. But then again, there are no stereotypes attatched to gaming so it's not like you'd understand.
What where have you been of course there are stereotypes attached to gamers.

I think they should Benitez is passed it I dunno who should replace, but there are some really decent managers out there at the moment.
It.
was.
sarcasm!

And replacing Benitez will not solve Liverpool's problems, why do people think that changing manager will suddenly make them a completely different team? It'll still be the same team, just with a guy in charge that the players don't know or trust. It'd sure be a great way to fuck things up some more though...[/quote]

O ok then just a note for future reference Sarcasm doesn't generally work unless in person.

I get what you mean by the manager thing, but a new manager can work wonders for a team over time, take the England squad for example we have been playing at the top of our game since Capello took over, a more experienced manager is better for a club as they know what they are doing and know how to deal with press, player morale etc. I realise that Benitez is pretty experienced.
 

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Liverpool can't afford to sack benitez that why hes still there

liverpool will go out of the top four man city will replace them and in 3 years will be the best team in the world :D

and since when did any one else like football on this website?
 

pigeon_of_doom

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sean.2k9 said:
and since when did any one else like football on this website?
Urprobablyright used to post a lot of football related threads in Off-Topic, which me and maybe four other people occasionally posted on if we were awake (damn time differences!).

So...you're not alone, there's others out there. Occasionally threads like these get invaded by people coming in saying "Team sports are stoopid", and sadly unless that kind of comment sparks an argument these threads sink quite quickly.
 

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pigeon_of_doom said:
They just seem to be the unacknowledged masters of snide fouls and sneaky dives to me.
I would have to agree with this statement. Liverpool, if you watch closely (especially Gerrard and Torres) constantly dive, moan and basically act exactly like every other player - yet Gerrard is considered saint-like. Last night I noticed Torres deliberately leaving his leg out for a dive at least 3 times, and he's supposed to be the perfect sportsman...

And lets not forget Benetiez's rant against Ferguson (as much as I enjoy anyone insulting him)

 

El Poncho

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He just needs to change his tactics to suit the team since Gerrard and Torrez can't do everything(especially now that they are injured)