C&C4 Requires Constant Internet Connection to Play

Laura.

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Uh, this does not bode well...
I didn't like what they did for RA3, but this is worse D:
 

Nutcase

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KSarty said:
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KSarty said:
I can see how this would annoy people, but it is a much more agreeable anti-piracy measure than secuROM ever was. And who knows, they could make it in some way that you can play online, but you don't get credit for any of your player-progression when in offline mode or something along those lines.
Huh? This is a lot worse than SecuROM ever was. At least SecuROM only required you to be online while installing the game you bought.

Fortunately everything points to the game throwing its PC gaming roots away, and descending to the shitter to compete directly with Halo Wars (all-in-one base) and MMORPGs (grinding), so nothing lost by just leaving it on the shelf.
No, SecuROM originally validated the game's authenticity online constantly. They changed it because that was one of the larger complaints about the system.
OK, so this is "only" as bad as SecuROM ever was, and a whole lot more restrictive than SecuROM is now.
Geez. I'm just way too trusting. I thought EA was finally starting to get it when they announced that Sims 3 will have no DRM. Of course they lied even then.
I think you are mistaking the point of the crawlers. They don't act as your entire base, think of them as an mcv that you don't need to unpack. Once it is done building something, you still place it wherever you want, and can then move your crawler elsewhere to build something else.
I stand corrected.
 

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Nutcase said:
OK, so this is "only" as bad as SecuROM ever was, and a whole lot more restrictive than SecuROM is now.
Geez. I'm just way too trusting. I thought EA was finally starting to get it when they announced that Sims 3 will have no DRM. Of course they lied even then.
Yeah unfortunately I think they are still throwing ideas out there looking for a viable form of DRM, but I still don't really understand their thought pattern on the subject. Overall I don't think it will be as big of a deal as most people on here seem to, but it is still a pretty pointless system if you ask me.

scifidownbeat said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Securom : Copy Protection Product that actively resists attempts to pirate/copy games.
DRM : Digital Rights Management : Technology that prevents multiple installs in order to block piracy.
Thank you, kind sir! Well, that makes sense, I guess. So why is everyone treating it like a bad thing?
Because in the end pirates still find a way around the system and the people who bought the game legally get plagued with issues all stemming from various DRM systems.
 

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Chaos Marine said:
The C&C franchise was killed and then defiled into a horrific, Frankenstein's monster of a mess. From both gameplay elements to adding in retarded EA controlling crap like this. Generals was a the last C&C game I bought and after the demos and trying RA3 from a friend, I have felt nothing but disgust at how it's mutilated and made to dance to EA's sadistic tune. They should let the corpse rest before it falls apart in a pile of rotting gibbets.
Yep, completely agree with you there. Not only does my internet connection have a shit load of problems but it's probably gonna be one of those shit games to make a quick buck. Bloody hell I hate EA!
 

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Oh great another RTS I was looking forward to that now I won't be getting. At least with Starcraft 2 single player was still an option. Having satellite internet was bad enough. When it rains harder than a sprinkle it's for sure going to be gone, and then what am I going to do? I don't like these game companies assuming that we are all going to have access to the internet 24/7, because not all of us do.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
Baby Tea said:
Well with the majority of people online, this seems like it'll only upset the few.
Count me as one of those few. Fuck EA/Westwood! DRM all through RA3, now this... I won't buy shit like this.
Westwood hasn't existed since 2003, this is all on EA.
 

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The more EA do the more I think they base their DRM off the Wiki of Steam, which they only half read.

They may as well have made a press release that reads "Look kids, we're going to go out of our way to stop you playing this game so you may as well just wait a week or two then pirate it,"
Apparently they learnt nothing from the whole Spore fiasco.
 

Zacharine

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Let me guess, this is the next step in DRM for all games to come. And it takes shady Internezt(tm) people about 5 minutes to bypass this and spread the word.

Great going EA. You just made life even more difficult for the paying customers while having zero impact on piracy.

Guess what, I was already hesitant about bying the next C&C game. This was the final nail in the coffin; Definetaly NOT going to buy this one.
 

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This is just a way to cover their standard "you must be online" DRM policies with fancy looking feature that most won't even care about.

Looks like another game that'll end up cracked, if I bother to play it at all.
 

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That's the dumbest thing EA could do.. It will kill the franchise!!

Well, the franchise has last its glamour for so long..

C&C Tiberian Sun, the last C&C I bought and I am glad about it
 

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i dont really care.. i got internet al the time so... i think when i have got money, buyed around 5 games, and when i played them alot i'll buy it
 

monkey_man

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johnman said:
At the moment my connection goes on and off line every 10 or 20 minutes. This is a sheer dick move on EA's behalf, but then again, I havent bought a C&C since Generals and I see no reason to start again.
oh man you really need to if you like it (i've got c&c 3 andkanes wrath) and it looks stunning and it never gets old (for me)
 

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scifidownbeat said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
scifidownbeat said:
<---noob

SecuROM? DRM? err... is this PC terminology? Because I don't follow...
DRM : Digital Rights Management : Technology that prevents multiple installs in order to block piracy.
Thank you, kind sir! Well, that makes sense, I guess. So why is everyone treating it like a bad thing?
That is incorrect. DRM would be more accurately called Digital Restriction Management. It's placed on the product by the vendor to restrict what legit users may do with the product.

DRM comes in many forms. Some music CD's have DRM which makes them unable to work at all in many CD drives and stereos. Region locking prevents a US gamer from importing and playing a Japanese 360 game. A PS3 would otherwise work with any cheap display using a HDMI to DVI adapter, but Sony decided to require a TV or display with built-in DRM. Any new EA game you buy off the store shelf is effectively a rental - it will only work for as long as EA wants it to work and keeps the authentication servers up. You have absolutely no guarantee that the game will be playable ten years from now, or even at any particular moment as the servers may be down. In my mind this is tantamount to fraud. There would be no moral issue if the restrictions and the nature of the product were marked clearly on the product, but that is usually not the case.

Developers and publishers are well aware that in most cases DRM doesn't stop or hinder pirates. They put DRM on their products anyway in order to shut down the second hand market for legit customers, to collect usage information via Internet without the users having a say in it, et cetera. Since there is no benefit* to DRM from the viewpoint of the legit user, it's understandable that the companies want to keep a low profile with it, but unfortunately they take it so far that it's often impossible to find what the restrictions are even if you go look for them. Outright lies in interviews and press releases are not uncommon, either. Furthermore, many companies seem to habitually belittle their customers and deliberately misinterpret their concerns when the subject of DRM comes up in some context.

SecuROM is just one brand name for DRM. There have been many different kinds of DRM systems under the same brand, with varying degrees of restrictions, so just from the brand name you can't tell what restrictions the product actually has.

* Actually, I can think of one specific kind of DRM which is beneficial to the gamer: tamper-proofing mechanisms which seek to cut down on cheating in multiplayer.
 

Andy_Panthro

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Not going to be buying this.

These sorts of DRM measures need to be stopped. I'll be amazed if it has any impact on piracy.

I was very disappointed with C&C3 in general, so that was enough for me to avoid new C&C games.

Considering the original Command and Conquer and Red Alert are both freeware, I'd much rather play those again that bother with this new post-westwood incarnation.
 

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monkey_man said:
johnman said:
At the moment my connection goes on and off line every 10 or 20 minutes. This is a sheer dick move on EA's behalf, but then again, I havent bought a C&C since Generals and I see no reason to start again.
oh man you really need to if you like it (i've got c&c 3 andkanes wrath) and it looks stunning and it never gets old (for me)
I did try number 3, but I found it boring. I was never a huge fan of the Tirberium series either way, I was bought up on Red Alert.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
Oh god, I am screwed. My connection is crap, especially if it demands constant XBL attention, so this game will not run well.
Aye, same here. This sounds... interesting, nonetheless.