Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 Launch Info Leaks Early

[Random Fella]

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I never said it wasn't hard to do these things
Write these stories, animate these scenes, reskin the environments
No, I'm pretty sure it's extremely difficult, for the individual working on it
But for the size of Treyarch and Infinity Ward, more is expected then the simple changes they make throughout each game
They are extremely large companies, their sequels should be different to the orginal by a large margin at least
They release these games as completely different games, when in fact, they are only at the quality of very expensive expansion packs.

 

[RichardThompson]

I don't think it's a secret... I got an email from play.com telling me I could preorder it.

 

[DiamanteGeeza]

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I never said it wasn't hard to do these things
Write these stories, animate these scenes, reskin the environments
No, I'm pretty sure it's extremely difficult, for the individual working on it
But for the size of Treyarch and Infinity Ward, more is expected then the simple changes they make throughout each game
They are extremely large companies, their sequels should be different to the orginal by a large margin at least
They release these games as completely different games, when in fact, they are only at the quality of very expensive expansion packs.

That is the part of the discussion I don't understand. On the one hand you acknowledge the huge amount of effort involved in creating brand new environments, textures, story, VO, mocap, etc. etc., and then you categorize this massive amount of work as "simple changes".

I guess we shall agree to disagree.

 

[Random Fella]

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I never said it wasn't hard to do these things
Write these stories, animate these scenes, reskin the environments
No, I'm pretty sure it's extremely difficult, for the individual working on it
But for the size of Treyarch and Infinity Ward, more is expected then the simple changes they make throughout each game
They are extremely large companies, their sequels should be different to the orginal by a large margin at least
They release these games as completely different games, when in fact, they are only at the quality of very expensive expansion packs.

That is the part of the discussion I don't understand. On the one hand you acknowledge the huge amount of effort involved in creating brand new environments, textures, story, VO, mocap, etc. etc., and then you categorize this massive amount of work as "simple changes".

I guess we shall agree to disagree.

Well, you've got to think about how often they've changed their game engine throughout 4 game sequels
I don't think they have even once since Call of Duty 4
I'm just saying that they need to put more effort in to making a sequel, but I know they won't, and why should they? They make huge amounts of money from each one being released and I highly doubt the advancements I propose would earn a larger profit anyhow.
But true, we will have to.

 

[DiamanteGeeza]

Well, you've got to think about how often they've changed their game engine throughout 4 game sequels
I don't think they have even once since Call of Duty 4

The engine is upgraded and improved with every release. Why change the entire workflow and game engine, when what you've got does the job it needs to? That doesn't make any sense. Changing a game engine isn't just swapping out a bit of code - the entire team have spent years learning (or putting up with in many cases) the myriad tools and workflow that go along with the code itself. To suddenly change all that would be hugely inefficient and pointless.

I'm just saying that they need to put more effort in to making a sequel, but I know they won't, and why should they? They make huge amounts of money from each one being released and I highly doubt the advancements I propose would earn a larger profit anyhow.
But true, we will have to.

Gah!! There you go again!! A truly massive amount of effort is put into every one!! *sigh*

And anyway... what advancements have you proposed? I'm curious, and be specific.