Call of Duty: Black Ops has a Girl Character (single-player) (Dtoid)

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Woodsey said:
Modern Warfare had a female pilot who crashed the helicopter she was in.

*insert jibe about women drivers*

Also: so?
In the US military, women were not (and still technically are not) allowed to perform in "Combat Roles". They are, as such, not permitted to be an infantryman, artilleryman, tanker, special operations or fire support specialists.
They're still not?

Christ, there's nothing like a bit of discrimination.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
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Great, the grunting stupidity spewing fanboys of MW2 are going to do the same as the Gears 3 fanatics and scream "NO GIRLS ALLOWED NOOBS!!!".

Sounds good to me, I always wondered why they didn't let you pick one or whatever.
lazyness, possibly, I think its cool when in multi-player games they give the choice of gender.
It's mostly because it's a lot of extra work, women move differently than men so you have to do ALL the motion capturing again. But still you'd think a game with THAT much money would go for it.
I guess my opinion on if girls are "allowed" in Gears combat revolves mostly around if that armor the Gears wear is powered or not. If it isn't, then it would clearly require a musclebound person to wear and move in (it is, after all, expected to stop or slow untold hundreds of bullets), and none of the women the game presented could be considered "musclebound" in the slightest. Thus, if the armor isn't powered, I'd question Anya's ability to even move around in said armor, much less be sufficiently mobile to be anything other than a liability on the battlefield.
I'd say it's more about comicbook logic (spiderman gets powers instead of radiation sickness) than it is about logic. Besides, do you want to stare at Fenix's ass, or Anyas ass?
 

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Woodsey said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
Woodsey said:
Modern Warfare had a female pilot who crashed the helicopter she was in.

*insert jibe about women drivers*

Also: so?
In the US military, women were not (and still technically are not) allowed to perform in "Combat Roles". They are, as such, not permitted to be an infantryman, artilleryman, tanker, special operations or fire support specialists.
They're still not?

Christ, there's nothing like a bit of discrimination.
As of the day my enlistment ended (2007), they were not. I assume if that policy was changed, it would have made the news.
Snotnarok said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
Snotnarok said:
Korten12 said:
Snotnarok said:
Great, the grunting stupidity spewing fanboys of MW2 are going to do the same as the Gears 3 fanatics and scream "NO GIRLS ALLOWED NOOBS!!!".

Sounds good to me, I always wondered why they didn't let you pick one or whatever.
lazyness, possibly, I think its cool when in multi-player games they give the choice of gender.
It's mostly because it's a lot of extra work, women move differently than men so you have to do ALL the motion capturing again. But still you'd think a game with THAT much money would go for it.
I guess my opinion on if girls are "allowed" in Gears combat revolves mostly around if that armor the Gears wear is powered or not. If it isn't, then it would clearly require a musclebound person to wear and move in (it is, after all, expected to stop or slow untold hundreds of bullets), and none of the women the game presented could be considered "musclebound" in the slightest. Thus, if the armor isn't powered, I'd question Anya's ability to even move around in said armor, much less be sufficiently mobile to be anything other than a liability on the battlefield.
I'd say it's more about comicbook logic (spiderman gets powers instead of radiation sickness) than it is about logic. Besides, do you want to stare at Fenix's ass, or Anyas ass?
I've never looked at Fenix's ass. I have looked at a plate of armor that protects his ass, certainly. I find no thrill in the prospect of seeing a similarly protected female ass in much the same way I find that real world body armor removes most of the visual thrill of looking at any female.
 

Snotnarok

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Woodsey said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
Woodsey said:
Modern Warfare had a female pilot who crashed the helicopter she was in.

*insert jibe about women drivers*

Also: so?
In the US military, women were not (and still technically are not) allowed to perform in "Combat Roles". They are, as such, not permitted to be an infantryman, artilleryman, tanker, special operations or fire support specialists.
They're still not?

Christ, there's nothing like a bit of discrimination.
As of the day my enlistment ended (2007), they were not. I assume if that policy was changed, it would have made the news.
Snotnarok said:
Eclectic Dreck said:
Snotnarok said:
Korten12 said:
Snotnarok said:
Great, the grunting stupidity spewing fanboys of MW2 are going to do the same as the Gears 3 fanatics and scream "NO GIRLS ALLOWED NOOBS!!!".

Sounds good to me, I always wondered why they didn't let you pick one or whatever.
lazyness, possibly, I think its cool when in multi-player games they give the choice of gender.
It's mostly because it's a lot of extra work, women move differently than men so you have to do ALL the motion capturing again. But still you'd think a game with THAT much money would go for it.
I guess my opinion on if girls are "allowed" in Gears combat revolves mostly around if that armor the Gears wear is powered or not. If it isn't, then it would clearly require a musclebound person to wear and move in (it is, after all, expected to stop or slow untold hundreds of bullets), and none of the women the game presented could be considered "musclebound" in the slightest. Thus, if the armor isn't powered, I'd question Anya's ability to even move around in said armor, much less be sufficiently mobile to be anything other than a liability on the battlefield.
I'd say it's more about comicbook logic (spiderman gets powers instead of radiation sickness) than it is about logic. Besides, do you want to stare at Fenix's ass, or Anyas ass?
I've never looked at Fenix's ass. I have looked at a plate of armor that protects his ass, certainly. I find no thrill in the prospect of seeing a similarly protected female ass in much the same way I find that real world body armor removes most of the visual thrill of looking at any female.
I'm not talking about a thrill, I'm just giving you the same thing I gave my friend who said the same thing.
Do you want to look at a guy, or a girl for 7-12 hours?
 

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There was a female character in CoD 3. That French resistance chick. It's a good thing to add a little diversity every once in a while.
 

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Snotnarok said:
I'm not talking about a thrill, I'm just giving you the same thing I gave my friend who said the same thing.
Do you want to look at a guy, or a girl for 7-12 hours?
In the entirely non-sexual context of wearing full body armor and being regularly engaged in intense close quarter gun battles, my preference lies with playing as the character who seems least out of place. Anya, when last I saw her, was built like a waif. If she maintained this build while wearing power armor and keeping up with men who are easily 300 lbs of bone and muscle, I would be reminded constantly that I was playing a game with capricious and entirely arbitrary rules.

That is the reason why I care if the armor is powered or not. For the record, unless I was told it wasn't, my assumption would be that the armor probably does assist in the user's locomotion.

And, besides, between the two, Fenix has at least some amount of characterization to his credit at this point. Anya was just eye candy and a nagging voice in my ear for hours on end.
 

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Ephraim J. Witchwood said:
The only good stereotype is one that never sees the light of day...
There are few statements that I can agree more with than this one.

As for the topic itself... it does seem a bit odd for a CoD game.
 

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Eclectic Dreck said:
Snotnarok said:
I'm not talking about a thrill, I'm just giving you the same thing I gave my friend who said the same thing.
Do you want to look at a guy, or a girl for 7-12 hours?
In the entirely non-sexual context of wearing full body armor and being regularly engaged in intense close quarter gun battles, my preference lies with playing as the character who seems least out of place. Anya, when last I saw her, was built like a waif. If she maintained this build while wearing power armor and keeping up with men who are easily 300 lbs of bone and muscle, I would be reminded constantly that I was playing a game with capricious and entirely arbitrary rules.

That is the reason why I care if the armor is powered or not. For the record, unless I was told it wasn't, my assumption would be that the armor probably does assist in the user's locomotion.

And, besides, between the two, Fenix has at least some amount of characterization to his credit at this point. Anya was just eye candy and a nagging voice in my ear for hours on end.
Again I really think you're trying to apply real logic to comic book stuff. The armor isn't attached to itself so there's no way it's power armor, and Fenix is wearing less of it next game.

My suggestions aren't about sexual attraction or whatever (I'm asexual and could care less)my point is they could make her fit storywise but different logic may need be applied. Anya could simply have been drafted because humanity is desperate and she did some training. Hell if they let someone as whiny as Dom be a soldier then she should have no problem *satire*.

My one hope is they don't have her clashing with a Locust in chainsaw duels like the others since the Locust are about 500 times larger and go with a more agile approach, dodge and saw.
 

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Woodsey said:
Modern Warfare had a female pilot who crashed the helicopter she was in.

*insert jibe about women drivers*

Also: so?
In CoD 2 there were woman soldiers in the Russian Campaign
 

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Snotnarok said:
Besides, do you want to stare at Fenix's ass, or Anyas ass?
actually, in both cases you'd still be staring at a legged truck's ass, except that on one of said cases, you dont feel weird about it

as for the topic

yeah, been done before, in CoD2 the russian campaign, but that's from the glory days of Infinity Ward =P
 

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It's gonna be person in my ear telling me what to do, isn't it?

That reminds me of a bit in Something, Something, Something Dark Side where Leia/Louis is telling the pilots how they're going to flee Hoth and one of them is like; 'erm, isn't there somebody from the military we can talk to? You know, like, a man?'
 

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Here's to hoping that she's a Canadian, we are far to unrepresented in video games.
Isn't the game based around Vietnam? If so, I doubt Canada is going to get too much of a look in.
 

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A girl character? Seems a bit of a departure for a CoD game to have a girl character in it.

Ah, I see you're using "girl" in the loosest sense.

[stereotypical statement]Most of the kids playing Black Ops probably won't even know what a girl is anyway. How will they cope with this alien incursion in their game?[/stereotypical statement]
 

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RobJameson said:
OMFG A WIMMENZ IN A VIDYA GAYME THERE SOOOOOOOOOOO FUCCCCCCCCCCCCKING DIVERSE AND DEY HAVE A GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET NOWLEDGE OF MODRN PROBLEMS. THIS SRRRRRRSYLY IS A TOT4LLY NEW THING THAT HS NEEEEVER BEEN DONE B4.

TREYARCH ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOO KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEWL.
Troll, or just being annoying?
 

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I swear I'll hurt someone if all of her lines revolve around how she is the girl and doesn't suck at shooting (I'm looking at you, ODST)
 

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Dcocho said:
OMFG THERES A GIRL IN A GAME...

How the fuck is this news?
This would be a valid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQnIJ-ljctk] response from now on.

No guy would be safe.
 

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Cue bloviating about how CoD is 'Tackling Controversial Issues' when the game as a whole will likely push an envelope about as much as a glacier.