Calling a Kid the "C" Word
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I think he went a bit ott saying it's near common usage. Think it's more my impression is places like the state's you will NOT hear it on the tv or in a public place. Where as in the UK it can be on tv after watershed, if you go to a busy pub, a sporting event, anywhere there is either a large gathering of lad's or alcohol being consumed you will probably hear it if you keep your ear out.TwistedEllipses said:
tbh I don't really get why people analyse too deeply into swear words, when I call one of my mates a "wanker" I'm not saying "oooooow look at this guy he enjoys a bit of masturbation, laugh at him for this fact!" I'm normally referring to them behaving like a prat or an idiot. To my understanding "****" is more considered worse than say "twat" which carry the same literal meaning if i'm not mistaken because of its traditional affiliation to female prostitutes.
I think all words in the English language have their place (with a few exceptions ie. racial slurs which are best left in the past). An swear words shouldn't be offensive to the ear, only offensive if directed at you. For instance if I come out of my flat an someone has smashed up my Motorcycle for no reason what so every then think I would be justified in calling them a **** in that situation lol, without if the person who did it is a woman being accused of being "sexist" and derogatory to women as a sex. Most people with any sense who use the word are not thinking that complex about it. I mean if we apply that logic no woman should be allowed to call anyone a dick.
I think at the end of the day though words only hurt if you let them and allowing yourself to be hurt by them because society tells you that you should be more offended by certain words is just putting yourself in a place to be offended.
If someone says something stupid you don't like the correct response is to ignore them and not deal with them. Getting mad/sad over the opinion of random people is just going to make things worse for you in the long run. Certainly there are people in your life who's opinions you do care about but your choosing wrong if they are the type who sling abusive and malicious words at you all the time. Also insults are all about context. No word is inherently taboo on it's meaning alone.
Also the cultural taboo and hatred towards any form of insult the husband makes against the wife is not one of correcting male privilege but can be argued to fall under the same category of gender expectations where men aren't allowed to hit women but not the other way around. The assumption being that men are emotional/physically strong enough to endure any form of abuse where women are not. Mr Funk one could argue the perceived weight of the insult of calling your wife a ***** in an argument verses that of her calling you a dick might have nothing to do with privilege, but it could just be more to do with you are taught young not to insult women and she's taught to take offense at certain words. As is proper for your gender rolls in marriage :3
Could be wrong... really don't know. I feel like there is a lack of understanding seeing as I'm in a two female household verses that of a male and a female. Just trying to analyze logically I suppose.
If someone says something stupid you don't like the correct response is to ignore them and not deal with them. Getting mad/sad over the opinion of random people is just going to make things worse for you in the long run. Certainly there are people in your life who's opinions you do care about but your choosing wrong if they are the type who sling abusive and malicious words at you all the time. Also insults are all about context. No word is inherently taboo on it's meaning alone.
Also the cultural taboo and hatred towards any form of insult the husband makes against the wife is not one of correcting male privilege but can be argued to fall under the same category of gender expectations where men aren't allowed to hit women but not the other way around. The assumption being that men are emotional/physically strong enough to endure any form of abuse where women are not. Mr Funk one could argue the perceived weight of the insult of calling your wife a ***** in an argument verses that of her calling you a dick might have nothing to do with privilege, but it could just be more to do with you are taught young not to insult women and she's taught to take offense at certain words. As is proper for your gender rolls in marriage :3
Could be wrong... really don't know. I feel like there is a lack of understanding seeing as I'm in a two female household verses that of a male and a female. Just trying to analyze logically I suppose.
In the US calling someone a dickhead is practically a compliment compared to calling a girl the c word. There's no comparison, one can barely be called a swear and the other could probably get you kicked out of a restaurant. Besides, calling a child "dickhead" is pretty inappropriate as well.knight steel said:
Good article. Thanks, by the way, for the acknowledgement that people overseas tend to be a LOT more relaxed about these kinds of things.
this is an interesting commentary on the RAZOR-THIN line comedy walks at all times. Comedy, despite what some people would like to believe, is a VERY calculated style and it must be done very carefully. Whoever wrote that on the Onion really should have thought "huh, is this a bit too far?" Comedy DOES exist to push boundaries, but it also must keep itself from being just mean-spirited
Someone calls my child a ****....there will be blood. I find it amazing how many cowards hide behind anonymity, typing there little blurbs and quips. None of these people will say it in person just like none of you in the thread will call any decent parent's child a **** or a dickhead while in their presence.
It's like basic human decency died at the advent of the internet...
It's like basic human decency died at the advent of the internet...
I feel like it's been over a decade that I've been seeing the sentence "I can't tell the context of that thing the Onion said". It's like...The Onion, man. Anyway, I'll gladly back up their right to say something like this, but if you failed and people widely get pissed then you have to be grown up and make amends. It's not often that they apologize for an article, "news" piece, or anything...so good on them.
At some point you gotta just not care what other people say that hardly effects you. You can't resort to threats of violence when people saying something you don't like/incredibly stupid. You should dislike it sure, but it's also a really nice indicator of a person you shouldn't associate or interact with anymore.Mr_Terrific said:
Just step back and ask yourself. Does what this person say really affect me or those I care about? 95% of the time the answer will be no, and you should just ignore the person. Easy enough.
I think after reading Bob's post (I don't really follow the Onion so I didn't know about it previously) it seems like the particular type of satire they were going for could've been funny, but the actual tweet was way to blunt to be properly understood as such.
Also there's really a double standard with "the c-word." I mean, reducing a person to their genitals? Isn't that what a "dick" is?
Also there's really a double standard with "the c-word." I mean, reducing a person to their genitals? Isn't that what a "dick" is?
I don't really think so, I mean if it's warranted, like a bunch of young boys defaced someone's house or something you'd hear them be called "little shits" or something along those lines.NightowlM said:
When I was younger we weren't allowed to say "stupid" and called it the "s-word," but when my younger sister who's only younger by six years went to elementary school, I would hear kids going around saying "fuck" like it's nothing so I mean, things change you know?rancher of monsters said:
And that's what I don't get both I insulting someone by referring to them as just their genitals's so why such the large difference in reaction's? Why has society decided the crude version of vagina is so much worse than the crude version of penis. Thus why I called it a double standard and said it was interesting-you have just pointed out out the exact same thing I was getting at.OlasDAlmighty said:
Look at the above post I quoted, it's not just xbox live people, a large majority of society for some strange reason views the word "****" as more offensive and is why I think that if a boy was called "dick/cock" it would get a lesser response.NightowlM said:
I know that that those words have their standards for a reason I just don't know what that reason is >_<rancher of monsters said:
Also even if a lot of people will either not want to change those sub-concepts or misunderstand what I'm saying I have to at least try ^_^
So? 9 or 190 the Onion has never discriminated before. This apology honestly makes me incredibly depressed, the world is a worse place because they apologized for it. They didn't apologize for 9/11, they didn't apologize for their shooting jokes, but they apologize for language? If there's something that The Onion can't make a joke about I don't want to know about it, because it means we can't heal from it and it means we can't escape whatever tragedy it is.ShadowKirby said:
Simply put it was not funny. She is a little kid so that is a fairly extreme insult for a little girl, and after the general shitfest that Seth McFarlane made with nothing but offensive humor it was not good timing.
Honestly this year's Oscar's was probably the worst in recent memory with seemingly no redeeming features. Just one long stream of racism, sexism and bad choices.
Honestly this year's Oscar's was probably the worst in recent memory with seemingly no redeeming features. Just one long stream of racism, sexism and bad choices.
I call kids cunts all the time, because they often are behaving like little cunts. If a parent or someone overhears me and takes issue I retort with how I wouldn't call them a **** if they weren't being a **** then point out how they're being a ****.
I would call boys dickheads but that has more syllables which doesn't have the right flow and the word **** evokes more of someone doing something with no regard for other people whereas dickhead is more of a term for someone who annoys others because they think they're hot shit.
But it's America and folks there seem to really get up each other's cunts about the word **** and start acting like cunts when someone says ****.
It's an awesome word and is honestly not as bad or insulting as some folks get up in arms about.
I think it works because vaginas can be both awesome things one on day and in one scenario and horrible things on another day or in another scenario. Much like the word ****; it's only as bad as how you're using it.
I would call boys dickheads but that has more syllables which doesn't have the right flow and the word **** evokes more of someone doing something with no regard for other people whereas dickhead is more of a term for someone who annoys others because they think they're hot shit.
But it's America and folks there seem to really get up each other's cunts about the word **** and start acting like cunts when someone says ****.
It's an awesome word and is honestly not as bad or insulting as some folks get up in arms about.
I think it works because vaginas can be both awesome things one on day and in one scenario and horrible things on another day or in another scenario. Much like the word ****; it's only as bad as how you're using it.