Can a lightsaber cut through adamantium??

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KSarty said:
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I'm not really sure, at all.

This does raise an interesting question. If you could slowly cut through Wolverine, would he heal in time? Could a Jedi/Sith ever succeed in a fight with Wolverine?
Technically no. Wolverine has even better plot armor than Luke Skywalker. The old comics maintained that a shot through his eye socket into his brain would still kill him, but that no longer applies. It has happened and he got better. He has actually been reduced to just his skeleton and still healed.

Wolverine's healing factor increases in parallel to his popularity.
At your last point, you most definitely have that right.

In that case, in the event of a universe clash between X-Men and Star Wars, I guess we know who'd win.

But then...what would happen if Wolverine was on a world that got Death Star'd into oblivion?
 

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KSarty said:
Yes, basically. We're talking about a metal that the Hulk can't even scuff.
Well, if we're going to be completely hypothetical here I'd say that I find the notion of a superconductive material to be A LOT more believable than a "lightsaber".

I've always hated lightsabres for the sole reason that there is no respect what so ever to how actual light behaves. Light doesn't conveniently "stop" at a certain length in such a manner that it can form a manageable "blade" to be used as a sword. Photons keep going the direction they are going until they collide with something that absorbs them, and the last time I checked air is pretty bad at absorbing photons (especially the amount that a supposed "lightsabre" would generate if it wishes to maintain that awesome cutting power).

And don't even get me started on how the hell they actually power those things. I mean sure, there are nanotechnological solutions to many things but maintaining a high-powered laserbeam like that with an object no bigger than your average flashlight? BAH!

So for sheer plausibility, I'd say that the adamantium wins. After all, superconductive materials actually exist (even if they have to be cooled down to extreme temperatures to actually become superconductive), and from a scientific standpoint I'd say that superconductivity in room temperature might be within the realm of possibility through nanotechnological solutions.

Also, light isn't some kind of superpower that can defeat anything like some lightsabre-fans seem to think. For instance, what do you think would happen if a lit lightsabre ended up too close to the gravitywell of a black hole? (you know, that cosmic phenomena that even sucks up LIGHT along with everything else?)
 

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It all comes down to the writers doesn't it? More recently Wolverine's been invincible to everything. Could be an interesting story though.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
KSarty said:
Yes, basically. We're talking about a metal that the Hulk can't even scuff.
*snip*
Fun fact, a lightsabre's blade is not in fact made of light. Your entire post is instantly made irrelevant. Apologies for the inconvenience.
 

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Deadcyde said:
FOR THE THIRD TIME.. *punches browser in the spleen*

no...

adamantium = superconductor

lightsaber = energy blade

energy + superconductor = energy won't build up

energy not build up = no heat

no heat = no cutting

no cutting = well you get the idea

Lightsabers can cut through vibroblades, only things with a cortosis weave are immune to lightsabers. Read the item description next time.

otherwise, yoda could still kick wolverines ass.

= html humor
I was going to go with the irresistible force/immovable object argument, but this suffices.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
KSarty said:
Yes, basically. We're talking about a metal that the Hulk can't even scuff.
Well, if we're going to be completely hypothetical here I'd say that I find the notion of a superconductive material to be A LOT more believable than a "lightsaber".

I've always hated lightsabres for the sole reason that there is no respect what so ever to how actual light behaves. Light doesn't conveniently "stop" at a certain length in such a manner that it can form a manageable "blade" to be used as a sword. Photons keep going the direction they are going until they collide with something that absorbs them, and the last time I checked air is pretty bad at absorbing photons (especially the amount that a supposed "lightsabre" would generate if it wishes to maintain that awesome cutting power).

And don't even get me started on how the hell they actually power those things. I mean sure, there are nanotechnological solutions to many things but maintaining a high-powered laserbeam like that with an object no bigger than your average flashlight? BAH!

So for sheer plausibility, I'd say that the adamantium wins. After all, superconductive materials actually exist (even if they have to be cooled down to extreme temperatures to actually become superconductive), and from a scientific standpoint I'd say that superconductivity in room temperature might be within the realm of possibility through nanotechnological solutions.

Also, light isn't some kind of superpower that can defeat anything like some lightsabre-fans seem to think. For instance, what do you think would happen if a lit lightsabre ended up too close to the gravitywell of a black hole? (you know, that cosmic phenomena that even sucks up LIGHT along with everything else?)
Somewhere in space, there'd be two halves of a black hole... No pun intended.
 

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KSarty said:
Depends on what Adamantium we are talking about. Marvel comics, Wolverine's bones Adamantium? No, that one is literally indestructible. Adamantium from Warhammer 40k? Yeah, but it would take a long while.
The thing is a lightsaber doesn't cut in the same way a sword cuts. It melts. Adamantium can melt no matter the canon.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
I've always hated lightsabres for the sole reason that there is no respect what so ever to how actual light behaves. Light doesn't conveniently "stop" at a certain length in such a manner that it can form a manageable "blade" to be used as a sword. Photons keep going the direction they are going until they collide with something that absorbs them, and the last time I checked air is pretty bad at absorbing photons (especially the amount that a supposed "lightsabre" would generate if it wishes to maintain that awesome cutting power).
Lightsabers don't have anything to do with "light" other than they don't weigh much and are quite bright. Lightsaber's blade is plasma in a force containment field (which shapes the blade and contains the heat as well as the plasma itself). Being plasma, it will cut through nearly anything by burning/melting through it. Naturally, since Adamantium cannot be melted, it cannot be cut by a lightsaber, the saber will run its power cell dry without making any progress.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Fun fact, a lightsabre's blade is not in fact made of light. Your entire post is instantly made irrelevant. Apologies for the inconvenience.
Yeah, because the original scripts of the Star Wars movies were written in such a devious way by George Lucas that they were to use the term "lightsabre", when the blades aren't composed of light at all. I can just imagine him evilly scratching his beard going: "Muahahaha, Im going to fool the audience completely with my devilish scheme. I'll have the characters refer to these fictional weapons as LIGHTsabres all the time, even when they aren't made of light AT ALL! WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!?"

Or it could be that the principle of those fucking things were subjected to RETCONNING in order to please the Star Wars fanboys. Chances are that George Lucas didn't give a fuck about trying to invent some fictional weapon that actually made sense (and they still don't) or even bothered to think about it. His main concern was integrating something flashy that would make the masses of ignoramii watching the screen go: "Oooooh! Look at the pretty colours!", and that is what the Star Wars franchise has been pretty much all about with every movie and game that it has spawned...
 

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The second I read the title I thought "Drunk Tank."

But, yes, I totally think it could. Might take some time, but it would eventually.
 

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KSarty said:
crudus said:
Adamantium can melt no matter the canon.
No, it can't. Marvel comics Adamantium can not melt.
Wikipedia said:
Adamantium's extremely stable molecular structure prevents it from being further molded after its eight-minute initial time period, even if the temperature is high enough to keep it in its liquified form. In its solid form, it is colorless, shiny, and resembles high-grade steel or titanium
(almost verbatim on Marvel Wiki too)

So it does have a liquid state but it appears to act like a non-Newtonian fluid.
 

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crudus said:
KSarty said:
crudus said:
Adamantium can melt no matter the canon.
No, it can't. Marvel comics Adamantium can not melt.
Wikipedia said:
Adamantium's extremely stable molecular structure prevents it from being further molded after its eight-minute initial time period, even if the temperature is high enough to keep it in its liquified form. In its solid form, it is colorless, shiny, and resembles high-grade steel or titanium
(almost verbatim on Marvel Wiki too)

So it does have a liquid state but it appears to act like a non-Newtonian fluid.
No, as I already clarified earlier in the thread the liquid state is how the metal is created. The components of Adamantium are mixed in liquid form, but once that liquid form hardens it can never reach that form again.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Geo Da Sponge said:
Fun fact, a lightsabre's blade is not in fact made of light. Your entire post is instantly made irrelevant. Apologies for the inconvenience.
*snip*
Christ, calm down. This is an argument over the qualities of things from the Star Wars and the Marvel universes, which have the most convoluted and heavily retconned continuitys in existence. Arguing over the little details of what is and isn't canon is kind of the point here. And we love it.
 

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crudus said:
KSarty said:
crudus said:
Adamantium can melt no matter the canon.
No, it can't. Marvel comics Adamantium can not melt.
Wikipedia said:
Adamantium's extremely stable molecular structure prevents it from being further molded after its eight-minute initial time period, even if the temperature is high enough to keep it in its liquified form. In its solid form, it is colorless, shiny, and resembles high-grade steel or titanium
(almost verbatim on Marvel Wiki too)

So it does have a liquid state but it appears to act like a non-Newtonian fluid.
It has a liquid state for 8 minutes after the chemical reaction that creats it takes place. After that, it solidifies, and cannot be melted. That's what you JUST wrote.
 

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Adamantium, or Mandalorian Iron? Which is stronger? Because even a lightsaber will cut through Beskar after a while.
 

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Geo Da Sponge said:
Christ, calm down. This is an argument over the qualities of things from the Star Wars and the Marvel universes, which have the most convoluted and heavily retconned continuitys in existence. Arguing over the little details of what is and isn't canon is kind of the point here. And we love it.
Well, then I'll say that the LIGHTsabre is canon, and not the "plasma contained in a forcefield" (an equally ridiculous concept). After all, the LIGHTsabre was there first so it wins by rank of seniority.

And as discussions go, im not really obliged to adhere to arguments about this saying that "George Lucas changed his mind". Because if we're gonna go with the whimiscal ideas of that man, then pretty much anything goes and will be just as valid as anything else.

Still, I resent the Star Wars franchise a lot. Then again, im not too fond of Marvel either, but at least Marvel has pretty much been the same thing since it started. Star Wars was decent (because good actors and decent scriptwriting held it afloat) but ultimately fell from grace because George Lucas got way too full of himself.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Blights said:
Well, since a Lightsaber is more related to light (Duh), yeah, I don't think any physical substance could really block/hinder it even slightly, considering that it's just pure energy, rather than it having a physical form.
Look up the swords in KOTOR. lightsabers can't cut through them.
yes but good sir you fail to notivce that it is a game and when any old body gets a lightsaber that does what's originally described nothing would stay standing it was those moments of hacking up transdoshin thugs with savage metal blades and yet we had a fairly decent duel I was liek what the crap so I don't believe KotOR should qualify in this debate