Can bethesda make fallout 3 better than oblivion?
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I think it will, from what I understand most of the AI issues in oblivion were do to a broken AI that they had created that was supposed to be lifelike that they had to cut at the last min do to not having time to fix it.
My only concern is ranged weapons. Bows in oblivion sucked for the most part, I found them to be completely unusable on the 360 and a pain on pc. hopefully using guns in fallout wont be a chore
My only concern is ranged weapons. Bows in oblivion sucked for the most part, I found them to be completely unusable on the 360 and a pain on pc. hopefully using guns in fallout wont be a chore
Oh, there is quite a tumult over whether Bethesda will screw up a most sacred game franchise that is beloved by what many consider a classic. Just check GameFAQs or some other forum to find out.Erana said:
I do consider Fallout a classic. And I did like Oblivion also. I think Bethesda will learn what worked and what didn't from Oblivion and translate that to Fallout. Viewing some of the screenshots I think they have captured the feel and style of Fallout quite well. I don't think they will capture the humor or the fun dialogue from the early turn-based games. But that's not necessarily bad. Some of Fallout 1 & 2 jokes were hilarious and bawdy fun, some just made you roll your eyes. I think Bethesda will take it a bit more serious. And they will probably sand off the edgier tone of the early games.
I began writing a big post, looked up and realised I was wasting my time.KapnKerfuffle said:
I concur.
There! Fallout 3!fierydemise said:
I'm skeptical. I have tried and tried to like Oblivion but I just can't get drawn into it. They really have to work on the feel of the game if Fallout will be successful in this engine. It'll definitely need a better speechcraft system than the stupid pie game in Oblivion.
From what i've seen from screenshots and heard about it it sounds good. I haven't played any of the other fallout games because I had never heard of the series before, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt. though the speech and activities of enemies in oblivion were bad the combat AI neeeds the most fixin'. If my allies DON'T run into lava like they did in Oblivion I'll be satisfied.
Though I am a bit worried about the combination of real-time gunplay and hit percentages, that system worked horrribly in Morrowind. Hopefully the percentages only count in that assisted aiming mode.
Though I am a bit worried about the combination of real-time gunplay and hit percentages, that system worked horrribly in Morrowind. Hopefully the percentages only count in that assisted aiming mode.
As far as I'm aware, the new combat system allows you to build up action points in real-time, and then go into a turn-based mode at will, which is when the hit percentage aspect comes into play. It sounds quite clever on paper.The Potato Lord said:
I loved Fallout 1 & 2, but I never really got into big, fat Oblivion. However, by all accounts Bethesda have refined the Oblivion model, so I have faith they can pull it off. As long as they can get the bleakness right, I can forego much of the humour.
Anything's better then Oblivion. But still, is they screw Fallout up, Bethesda's getting ALOT of angry letters. You don't want to mess with the letters.
I think it will be good. Oblivion is a very different game with a different fanbase and I think Bethesda knows this. But on the other hand I'm afraid that console-pandering will censor out everything that was fun, edgy and challenging about the first games.
Oblivion is one of my personal favourite games. I've never had any problems with daft AI like a lot of people claim. I've clocked rather embarassing amounts of hours on some saves, I might just grow a shell and become a full-time hermit crab.
I've got high hopes for Fallout 3; I just hope they hire more voice actors for Christ sake.
I've got high hopes for Fallout 3; I just hope they hire more voice actors for Christ sake.
Yes it will be better than oblivion, but will it live up to the "Fallout" name? Now that is another question...(which has like, 20 threads about it on every game site anyway, so no point in asking again.)
I have seen screenshots, in which every human in a crowded room... Looks human.
It's better already.
EDIT: I spose that was a necessity for a game with mutants in. If Oblivion had had hostile mutants I'd have taken one look round a city, and tried to kill everyone because they're all horribly misformed...
It's better already.
EDIT: I spose that was a necessity for a game with mutants in. If Oblivion had had hostile mutants I'd have taken one look round a city, and tried to kill everyone because they're all horribly misformed...
I just hope you can kill whoever you want. In Oblivion you had so many characters that you weren't allowed to touch. It was rediculus.
It isn't hard to make any game better than oblivion.
'cause Oblivion wasn't exactly good IMO.
They should've cut down on the graphics, and put more Morrowind-like-gameplay into it.
I loved how you could run arround for hours and searching for a Dwemer ruin or something.
Oblivion missed that, occasionally you would run into a tomb wich felt like it always was the same.
'cause Oblivion wasn't exactly good IMO.
They should've cut down on the graphics, and put more Morrowind-like-gameplay into it.
I loved how you could run arround for hours and searching for a Dwemer ruin or something.
Oblivion missed that, occasionally you would run into a tomb wich felt like it always was the same.
Bethesda has already proven that they can make a better *game* than Oblivion. It's called "every other game they ever made".
That said, I have serious doubts as to whether Bethesda can do justice to the Fallout franchise. They've never been good at putting humor in games, ever. Their graphics, specifically of people, tend to look like shit. They have only the barest concept of how combat should work. More troubling than any of these flaws, however, is the fact that Oblivion showed them moving away from the immersive huge, unique worlds with free choice tack to a more console-friendly route. Hopefully that was just a blip though.
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That said, I have serious doubts as to whether Bethesda can do justice to the Fallout franchise. They've never been good at putting humor in games, ever. Their graphics, specifically of people, tend to look like shit. They have only the barest concept of how combat should work. More troubling than any of these flaws, however, is the fact that Oblivion showed them moving away from the immersive huge, unique worlds with free choice tack to a more console-friendly route. Hopefully that was just a blip though.
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