Can The Dark Knight Rises Rise Above Its Predecessors?

Feb 13, 2008
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gamezombieghgh said:
For the fourth time, I'm only referring to the Nolan universe when I say that Batman is considerably realistic. sigh
Don't sigh, it's unbecoming.

Even in the Nolanverse; Bats would need to spend millions of traceable money, spend 20 hours a day keeping up skills, deflect easily traceable forensics, carry around an insane amount of gear in a heavy suit, and protect an entire City.

Any one of those is unrealistic.
 

Woodsey

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I think it can - TDK deserved everything it got, and I always felt BB was a little underrated.

I don't think Nolan would do this if he couldn't top his last efforts either.
 

Vohn_exel

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You know, I'm not sure that it can surpass the last two, or at least not TDK. I'm already not sold on the name, but I am going to see it because I love Superheroes. I have to say, I think that it can still be an incredible movie on it's own right. I've seen a few of Nolan's movies and so far the ones I've seen were all excellent. I'm sure this will be a great Batman movie, but I doubt it'll reach the critical acclaim of it's predecessors.

Also, I should point out that I love TDK. It's a great Batman movie and a great movie overall. However, I think that everyone misses one of the things that make it great, and I'm surprised it's not mentioned more. Two Face was awesome. Aaron Eckhart was incredible in that role, and it's sad that he didn't get more praise. I believe he would have if Ledger hadn't died. The whole movie wasn't about just the conflict of Batman and the Joker. It was the battle over Harvey's soul, and you get to watch him fall from being the White Knight of Gotham to just another of it's broken citizens. The fall of Harvey Dent was part of the central focus of that movie, and what made it so awesome. I hope there's something similar to be found in Catwoman in this new movie, since I don't think Bane will be doing the emotional parts of the film.
 

Dragonpit

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This is a tricky assessment. To be sure, I figured Catwoman would be making an appearance this time, with Rachel's death leaving an empty void. Anne Hathaway is an excellent actress, so I'm sure she'll be able to pull off the part.

As far as living up to the potential of the predecessors goes, it can't do that or rather, it shouldn't worry too much about it.

Heath Ledger's performance in The Dark Knight was phenomenal. It was a real class act that really brought the house down. Sadly, this was also the reason for Ledger's death, a fact that cannot be overlooked. Expecting any actor reach that level is not only unreasonable, in the wrong context, it could also be problematic, if not fatal. I'm not saying that actors and actresses should not be trying to give their all; I'm saying that there are limits on how far they should go for these roles.

That said, Ledger's performance was not the only thing that made the movie a success; it just wound up as the most noteworthy. Nolan's direction was a very appreciable choice. He reinvented Batman in such a way that made Batman himself very easy to relate to without being contrived. Not one of his choices was out of place or jarring in the least, and it was really easy to get into the movies. The issue here is what happens when a movie tries too hard to meet up to the standards and expectations set by the previous installments. It's...like when an athlete tries overworks him/herself; he/she could instead strain something in the process or otherwise cause themselves indirect harm, thereby weakening their performance. This is the biggest threat to Nolan's work right now.

To this I say one thing: Forget 'US!' Our expectations are what could cause the franchise to fall to ruin here, so instead we should be ignored. Nolan can only do one thing: Keep doing what he's doing, learning from the past as he goes. With things as they stand, he won't have any problems creating another blockbuster. That's what I believe.
 

kjbmovieking

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i think that bane is gonna be great. the guy that is playing him is an excellent actor and he has the charisma to portray the intellectual side of bane. he also has the physique that is needed for the muscular, intemidating, physical bane. i am more concerned with catwoman. anne hathaway is a great actor but i think she lacks the lustful sex appeal and evil cunning that is needed to play selena kyle. i really thought that it would be angelina jolie or scarlett johansson. but we shall see what mr. nolan has in store