Murder fangirls, we will have to.
A great war coming, I senses.
Yeah, Yoda was a friggin vampire.
No shit.
A great war coming, I senses.
Yeah, Yoda was a friggin vampire.
No shit.
There have been several incarnations of Dracula.Amnestic said:Look up Dracula's powers.Sad Robot said:Dracula? Superman? I think you could call them definitive with ease, even if they aren't your preferred characters.
When was the last time you say a vampire turn into a Wolf, Fog or a rat? When was the last time you saw a vampire have his powers reduced during the daytime but still be able to use them at Dusk, Dawn and (most importantly) noon? Or when they used sacramental bread as a weapon against him?
Definitive? Only to people who haven't looked him up.
I'm talking about Stoker's.Sad Robot said:There have been several incarnations of Dracula.Amnestic said:Look up Dracula's powers.Sad Robot said:Dracula? Superman? I think you could call them definitive with ease, even if they aren't your preferred characters.
When was the last time you say a vampire turn into a Wolf, Fog or a rat? When was the last time you saw a vampire have his powers reduced during the daytime but still be able to use them at Dusk, Dawn and (most importantly) noon? Or when they used sacramental bread as a weapon against him?
Definitive? Only to people who haven't looked him up.
This is how: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PopCulturalOsmosisAmnestic said:Also: How is he definitive if there are "several incarnations"? That's the exact opposite of definitive. It's fecking confusing is what it is.
Superman is simple because there's one of him. Everyone knows his powers. Dracula may be the most recognisable vampire, but calling him a "definitive" one is silly because of the many different incarnations. It's as ridiculous as this entire thread. "Good" vampires? Which ones?Sad Robot said:This is how: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PopCulturalOsmosisAmnestic said:Also: How is he definitive if there are "several incarnations"? That's the exact opposite of definitive. It's fecking confusing is what it is.
In most people's minds the words "Dracula" and "vampire" are synonymous, same thing with characters like Superman and Sherlock Holmes, nevermind the fact that relatively few people have actually read the original stories.
There have been several incarnations.Amnestic said:Superman is simple because there's one of him.
Well, all geeks do.Amnestic said:Everyone knows his powers.
Well, granted, I did use "definitive" as more or less meaning "most associated with the word", certainly not "most well defined notion of an iconic character". People tend to be rather hazy on the details when it comes to the "definitive" characters, simply because few people are actually familiar with the original work. It's more of a notion; name and reputation.Amnestic said:Dracula may be the most recognisable vampire, but calling him a "definitive" one is silly because of the many different incarnations.
Well, I doubt anyone's read my previous posts about vampires, but yeah, I agree with you on this.Amnestic said:It's as ridiculous as this entire thread. "Good" vampires? Which ones?
In Trinity Blood (a pretty damn violent anime starring vampires and Catholics), vampires have no issue with sunlight.
In Buffy, which is also quite violent, they do.
Which are the 'good' vampires? It's all a matter of opinion or bullshitting whining yet again about how much they hate Twilight.
Really? I read a few Darren Shan books after my younger brother bought them and I thought they were terribly boring and about as well written as Harry Potter - which is to say, not very.Gabanuka said:Just watch older vampire movies and read older vampire books. Daren Shan vampire book are still a great series, even with Twilight lurking around and Dracula is as good as ever.
I don't see how they don't know... even in the film it explicitly says that they are vampires (even though they did the big fuckup with the ending and got rid of the entire point of the damn book).williebaz said:THANK YOU, I always get into fights over that.Gmano said:Yeah, nobody believes me when I tell people that the I Am Legend "zombies" are vampires.williebaz said:I am Legend, THE BOOK, will likely redeem your opinion of vampires.miwonton said:i would love to see a good old vampire movie once again. i honestly miss Blade. vampires used to be one of the most bad-ass creatures of cinema...and now there destroyed by terrible 13 year old fan fiction. can we start a counter-revolution before this new crappy vampire trend gets far to worse to control?
I hate twilight, up until that came out I used to love vampires.
One of the best games I've ever played, even if it was a buggy mess of a broken game.childofbodom said:Thank heavens for White Wolf and their Vampire: The Masquerade and Trokia games for their VtMBL, that is some awesome vamps for ya.
I'm sorry, can you find me a non-emo, non-sadistic-bastard-vampire? If what you're saying is the only "real" vampire is the gorn-filled Hellsing stuff, I'm going to ask you to return your "literate person" license. Go read the original Dracula, it's all about Dracula being a bit emo. Go read any of Anne Rice. Hell, go watch Blade.Malicious said:I miss real vampires....all we get now is teenage romance movies with emo vampires as the main cast....