Can we get some originality? Please?

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coolredmk

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When can we move past the "Space Marine" phase of gaming and find the next brilliant idea? Sure, Mass Effect and Starcraft are fun games, but I'd like to see more games like Odin Sphere or Okami, which had a plot line that didn't take space in the black abyss known as space, or in a gunmetal gray map.

When did space marines become popular anyways? They all have heavy metal suits (Most cases, it looks like just waving hi would be impossible), and guns that just shout "OVER COMPENSATION"!
 

migo

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There's plenty of originalyt, open your eyes.

Little Big Planet
ModNation Racers
Echochrome
Pixeljunk Eden
flOw
Flower
World of Goo
And Yet It Moves
Snoopy Flying Ace
Dead Rising

There's plenty of originality, on all 3 platforms.
 

Steppin Razor

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I can tell you when we're going to see more games like Odin Sphere and Okami:

When gamers pull their heads out of their arses and actually go out and buy them instead of constantly whining about how there are no original games.

Developers and publishers can't afford to make these type of games if you don't go out and fucking buy them
 

Winfrid

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Space Marines have always been popular, it's just a spate of really popular, mainstream games are keeping them in the spotlight
Halo, Gears of War, Warhammer/Dawn of War, Starcraft

I don't count Mass Effect as much as the others though, since they're hardly big beefy dudes in crazy armour with crazy weapons

When World of Warcraft came out, Orcs were all over the place - Orcs have always been all over the place, it's just popular/mainstream games bring them to the forefront
 

Hazy

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There's tons of originality out there, some of it mainstream, some of it indie - the key is knowing where to look. :D

Ever tried Which? It's made by the same guy who made the Draw With Me animation, and it's pretty unnerving:
Link [http://gamejolt.com/freeware/games/adventure/which/1523/] (It's freeware)

Eversion is another great title, and it's fairly popular, so you should be able to find it on your own. (It's also freeware)

Point being, search around in the not so mainstream, and you'll find a plethora of entertainment that strays from the norm.
 

Sygmist

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Pararaptor said:
SPEHS MAREENS

I rather like Space Marines, to tell you the truth. Super-Soldiers on Earth are fine too, as are resistance fighters.

So long as it's not fantasy, cool beans.
Doth thou wish to anger!? Oh yeah. Probably.

Anyway, there are plenty of games that have plot-lines which don't take place in the Final Frontier, although their swords and hair sometimes shout 'over compensation'.
 
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migo said:
There's plenty of originalyt, open your eyes.

Little Big Planet
ModNation Racers
Echochrome
Pixeljunk Eden
flOw
Flower
World of Goo
And Yet It Moves
Snoopy Flying Ace
Dead Rising

There's plenty of originality, on all 3 platforms.
Listen to the man. The problem isn't developers it's you. You've played too much Mass Effect and Dawn of War to see that there are other games to play. I had the same problem. Just get down to your nearest store on hop onto their site and order some pre-owned games that are outside your comfort zone or aren't about Space Marines. You lose little money if you don't like them and the ones you do like means you win.
 

Kialee

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Fuck Ultramarines.
That's all I have to say on the matter.

OT: There are plenty of non-grizzled-spehs-mehrines games, but I do agree on the fact that it's a boring, overdone cliche (i do not want to accent that e, thank you for your concern) which should have died shortly after DOOM was released.
 

coolredmk

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Thanks everyone for the title recommendations. I just have trouble finding these games when all the magazines at the local stand are just raving about how shiny the new space armor is in the newest space shooter. I'll be sure to look for these recommendations ^^
 

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Regarding SPESS MAHREENS, i have to say: "tropes are not bad". While Starcraft's and Warhammer's space marines do in fact look bulky, ridiculous, and overcompensatory, Mass Effect is an example of futuristic infantry done right: their suits are hardly bigger than today's body armour, guns are made folding, and they are trained military professionals (as opposed to religious fanatics or redneck convicts).

But really, i am only defending SPESS MAHREENS here because the alternative - Modern Warfare 2 and it's ilk with plots ripped from today's headlines - is much worse. And i like science fiction more than fantasy.

Now, regarding originality... the game industry is notoriously risk-averse. Making games costs a whole LOT of money, and something popular will sell easier than a completely original IP. If you want originality in the form of fresh gameplay ideas and totally-out-there settings, look for it on the indie scene.

And now, my suggestion for a fresh, yet familiar game that could probably sell well. For example, let's drift only a slight bit away from Mass Effect and imagine the following: a third-person shooter about a squad of badass space cops. You can play as a human or as one of several alien types (all of which are written in detail), use a wide spectrum of special powers in addition to standard guns, and your ultimate goal is to take down a major arms dealer. The powered armour is light like in ME, or even lighter. It's not entirely original, but it is pretty fresh. Would anyone play that?
 

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I always thought Commander Shepard was in the Navy since they always apply Nautical terms to their situations. I don't recall him ever being called a marine. Then again is has been a while since I've played the games. (damn RROD)

OT: There are plenty "original" games being released but really how can the game industry be original when everything has already been done?
 

Vilcus

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Space Marines were made infinitely cool by Doom. I mean, c'mon, he took out the entire legion of Hell by himself, and then went back in and stayed there to prevent them from coming back. Then there's the Warhammer 40k Space Marines who kick all shades of shit out of everything that has a pulse (and even some things that don't).

They're cool because they can take on anything, no matter how outmatched they seem to be. Also, they embody everyone's desire to put on some heavy power armor that makes you super human, and go save the fucking world! YEAH!!!

Oh yeah, there's also this.

 

ZeoAssassin

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what was wrong with Renaissance Italian assassins who ride on DiVinci's flying machines and kill people with blades strapped to their wrists. and all of that being memories locked in dna that was passed on to near future era descendants to help in the fight of an ancient war over the freedom of humanity and freewill that's gone on for the past 1000 years in a "is there really a god" theme?

that's pretty original
 

Abengoshis

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How about instead of a SPESS MAHREEN we can play as a SPESS SPAH!!1!!! Spah be sappin mah plasma cannon.


Kollega said:
Regarding SPESS MAHREENS, i have to say: "tropes are not bad". While Starcraft's and Warhammer's space marines do in fact look bulky, ridiculous, and overcompensatory, Mass Effect is an example of futuristic infantry done right: their suits are hardly bigger than today's body armour, guns are made folding, and they are trained military professionals (as opposed to religious fanatics or redneck convicts).

But really, i am only defending SPESS MAHREENS here because the alternative - Modern Warfare 2 and it's ilk with plots ripped from today's headlines - is much worse. And i like science fiction more than fantasy.

Now, regarding originality... the game industry is notoriously risk-averse. Making games costs a whole LOT of money, and something popular will sell easier than a completely original IP. If you want originality in the form of fresh gameplay ideas and totally-out-there settings, look for it on the indie scene.

And now, my suggestion for a fresh, yet familiar game that could probably sell well. For example, let's drift only a slight bit away from Mass Effect and imagine the following: a third-person shooter about a squad of badass space cops. You can play as a human or as one of several alien types (all of which are written in detail), use a wide spectrum of special powers in addition to standard guns, and your ultimate goal is to take down a major arms dealer. The powered armour is light like in ME, or even lighter. It's not entirely original, but it is pretty fresh. Would anyone play that?
Hmm. Sounds like a job for Samus Aran.
 

AugustFall

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"Hey, artist- INNOVATE!"

It doesn't work like that. It's not like people are avoiding great ideas it's just none have made it to the surface of the bog that is AAA gaming. Although maybe they are avoiding ideas because Space Marines sell like crazy.
 

Wintermoot

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they got popular since Halo I agree (althoug I like the Halo games) I personaly would like to see some weird games like Katamari hopefully the next phase is gonna be that
 

coolredmk

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Kollega said:
And now, my suggestion for a fresh, yet familiar game that could probably sell well. For example, let's drift only a slight bit away from Mass Effect and imagine the following: a third-person shooter about a squad of badass space cops. You can play as a human or as one of several alien types (all of which are written in detail), use a wide spectrum of special powers in addition to standard guns, and your ultimate goal is to take down a major arms dealer. The powered armour is light like in ME, or even lighter. It's not entirely original, but it is pretty fresh. Would anyone play that?
That sounds like Crackdown, doesn't it?