Can we just talk about what we think of Overwatch as a game? Please?
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It's entirely possible that they intentionally make characters look overpowered when they're being showcased by setting up scenarios for them in some way. For example, in LoL, champion spotlights usually have the champion in question with a level and item advantage to make them seem stronger than they actually are to get people more interested in the character.Zhukov said:
But they said this is still early in development and a lot can change. Possibly they can change Reaper's ult to be closer to the Strider's ult from GunZ 2. (Basically when activated, Strider crouches down and you have to swivel your camera to move the crosshair over the enemies to 'lock on'. After a second or two, if the targeted enemies don't get behind cover, they take extreme, usually fatal damage). And when you're locked on, it warns you of your imminent death to give you some time to react.
It'd be consistent with how Reaper was shown in the trailer as well, since he started by firing randomly and then focused in on Winston to down him.
Either that or blink in, press ult button, do jack-all damage to Reinhardt's shield, then stand there like a tart while the whole team mulches you after the ult is over.Zhukov said:
I sort of wonder if the reason the outfits get more talk than these games is because there's not much to talk about substantively. I mean, it looks okay, but it's largely indistinguishable from other shooter games as far as I'm concerned. Worse, while it might be a different format (competitive team multiplayer as opposed to co-op), it just strikes me as another Borderlands-formula game. Look how colourful and quirky we are! To remind you, we'll drop memes on your constantly!
I mean, cool that folks like it, but if we're talking about the quality of the game....I don't see it.
I mean, cool that folks like it, but if we're talking about the quality of the game....I don't see it.
As I already said here, having similar looking or functioning classes doesn't really mean much. There's much more to the game to make it differentAntigonius said:
Well, no.
All I saw was a trailer, so we can only discuss the trailer and the possible art style. I don't really see the point of discussing games that aren't out yet: it's like how The Reader's Choice thing has 3 games in the list, that haven't been released yet. It's nice that people have trust in these companies, but that's a wee bit ridiculous.
It looks ok. That's all. Trailers are built to display the best parts of a game, so I'll just wait until the previews come out before actually discussing it.
All I saw was a trailer, so we can only discuss the trailer and the possible art style. I don't really see the point of discussing games that aren't out yet: it's like how The Reader's Choice thing has 3 games in the list, that haven't been released yet. It's nice that people have trust in these companies, but that's a wee bit ridiculous.
It looks ok. That's all. Trailers are built to display the best parts of a game, so I'll just wait until the previews come out before actually discussing it.
There's already a gameplay trailer and a bunch of previews from people who've played it. One such person has already left his impressions in this very thread.Sigmund Av Volsung said:
I'll guess I'll need to take a look at them.IllumInaTIma said:
Not the actual gameplay trailer, I am predisposed against them, as I mentioned above.
It still feels a bit rushed and over-excited, like what happened during Nintendo's e3 presentation with the new incarnation of Link being shown.
"Looks like a TF2 clone" Tell me now, exactly how many games do we have like this? I think there is room for one more.
I really liked what I saw, and it was so unexpected. From what I could tell it is Blizzard's turn to copy a good game and make their version of it. While they may not have much (if any) experience with FPS, they do know how to make games.
Blizzard games just tends to feel.. right when it comes to controls and mechanics, and that is something very few get right.
Also it's worth mentioning that this is by far the best alpha/beta presentation I have seen from anyone, and It seems to be everything I've come to expect from Blizz these days, tight, clean and just well made.
Basically they are the only company that hasn't screwd me over yet, so I have no reason to think they would mess it up.
It's something new from them, it's not warcraft, not starcraft, can't we just be happy and positive about that?
So from what I saw in the trailer, the gameplay and what I could read it is definitely something I want to try.
I really liked what I saw, and it was so unexpected. From what I could tell it is Blizzard's turn to copy a good game and make their version of it. While they may not have much (if any) experience with FPS, they do know how to make games.
Blizzard games just tends to feel.. right when it comes to controls and mechanics, and that is something very few get right.
Also it's worth mentioning that this is by far the best alpha/beta presentation I have seen from anyone, and It seems to be everything I've come to expect from Blizz these days, tight, clean and just well made.
Basically they are the only company that hasn't screwd me over yet, so I have no reason to think they would mess it up.
It's something new from them, it's not warcraft, not starcraft, can't we just be happy and positive about that?
So from what I saw in the trailer, the gameplay and what I could read it is definitely something I want to try.
Whoa dude, be careful that you don't cut yourself on all that edge you got there.sataricon said:
Clearly you're too cool for this forum.
Did you buy Diablo 3 on launch day? Just putting that out there.Rattja said:
OT: Looks cool I won't be playing it because I dislike Blizzard (don't ask why it's none of your business). Understandably there's tons of TF2 connections, but I wonder if Blizzard can handle the game in the long run, cause no matter how fun it is at launch (Titanfall), and no matter how much good press and praise it gets before the release (Destiny). There's still the chance that it won't stand the test of time. Let's see if Blizzard can make a fabled "TF2" killer...
Also do you smell smoke? I think there might be a flame war somewhere around here.
Actually yes I did, but here is the thing.. Take away the server problems, take away the Diablo name and what you are left with is a rather good hack'n slash game. At it's core it is a solid game I think, as all the animations, moves and skills got the feeling right. It's a mechanically good game.Jmp_man said:
Also, because of the previous games many had very high expectations of what it should be.
We are now given something new, so those expectations should not be there, unless you are set on it being TF for some odd reason.
Even if they are coppying TF2, it's like a talented artist covering someone elses song with their own twist. It may be the same words but it can be so incredibly different.
I greatly look forward to playing as Bastion, since mobile, self-sufficient defensive classes have always been my cup of tea (a role I like to call the go-away defense--pester enemies into backing off until someone bigger can come by and set up). Plus it's just a sympathetic little bunch of boxes that looks like something Aperture Science would have made in Front Mission, which I can always appreciate.
I await more gameplay information before deciding if I'm going to spend more than a token amount of time on this one.
I await more gameplay information before deciding if I'm going to spend more than a token amount of time on this one.
If it's a fun shooter and it doesn't take a super fucking retarded F2P model (Hearthstone gives me some hope) I'll try it out.
It does looks fun. I honestly think the next step in multiplayer arena FPS is taking some mechanics from MOBAs. Not a huge amount, but enough to give rounds a bit more structure and a sense of flow.
Also, Overstrike in general makes me really want Valve to make a TF3. Or at least release a massive shakeup to TF2.
It does looks fun. I honestly think the next step in multiplayer arena FPS is taking some mechanics from MOBAs. Not a huge amount, but enough to give rounds a bit more structure and a sense of flow.
Also, Overstrike in general makes me really want Valve to make a TF3. Or at least release a massive shakeup to TF2.
Perhaps Im just being cynical but it really just looks like another FPS deathmatch game (granted Ive only seen their trailer). Theres already a ton of those out there and many are quite good. If Overwatch is just another deathmatch game then I dont see any point to it. We already have a ton of them with various class differences and abilities.
Right now I just dont see a point in it when what little was shown has already been done by dozens of other games. Come to think of it I said the same thing about Nosgoth
Right now I just dont see a point in it when what little was shown has already been done by dozens of other games. Come to think of it I said the same thing about Nosgoth
Developers said outright that there's not going to be deathmatch mode.Windcaler said:
As for other games like that, the only ones I can think of are Team Fortress 2 and, to a lesser extent, Monday Night Combat and PvZ: Garden Warfare. Truly Class based FPS market is surprisingly stale.
Theres a lot of deathmatch style games or games with deathmatch modes that are still class based. Anything battlefield, Gotham city imposters, Nosgoth, Blacklight retribution (although you more build your own class there), Call of duty (again build your own class), Tribes: Ascend and tribes 2, Gunz 2, and ghost recon are all example of deathmatch style games. I could probably name a lot more if I really thought out it.IllumInaTIma said:
Lets also be honest here, The developers said it wont just be a deathmatch game. The developers. How many other misrepresentations or even lies have we been told just to get us to buy a game? I can only go by the evidence Ive seen and from what Ive seen it looks like a deathmatch game.