- Apr 1, 2012
Yup. Superman and Batman are different characters, embodying different ideals. Superman embodies hope, and part of the way he expresses that hope is by giving humanity the chance to improve itself and turn itself around without needing to be interfered with by a being who shares their values but not their needs. Batman ostensibly embodies justice, but apparently only the specific kind of justice that can be exemplified through an insanely rich dude punching the destitute in the face to punish them. I am going to hold them to different standards because they are trying to do different things.Redryhno said:So basically you're going to hold Batman to these standards, but not the guy that has fought his own villains in the streets that have then damaged infrastructure countless times in his own city because they're just as strong as he is, barely does any reporting, and refuses to do much more than stay in his own holding pattern?
Break the cycle.Redryhno said:Exactly what do you want him to do beyond what he does now?
Then you are admitting all his charity work is completely ineffectual. Blame its ineffectiveness on the medium doesn't change that.Redryhno said:It's comics, dude; there's always going to be that kind of shootie-punchie junk no matter what the background.
I touched on this earlier, but I'll expand. Superman is about the expression of hope. He has faith that humanity can be and will be better than it is, and he wants humanity to reach that achievement on its own. If the world is only better because he forces it to be, then the world will inevitably disintegrate when he's gone. Interference is antithetical to his goals, so all he can permit himself to do is to save lives when lives need saving and to show the people of the world what tomorrow could look like if we all make the choice to go there.Redryhno said:Why does a guy with nearly infinite power just sit at a desk all day long?
We could already feed the entire world. We choose not to do it for selfish reasons Superman can't change. What Superman can change is whether the bullet fired from a gun hits the person it's meant to kill.Redryhno said:Why didn't he use his powers to just become the mysteriously best farmer in Kansas and provide food for the entire world since he doesn't really have a timetable with his endurance and speed?
Because basing a value for life on mathematics leads to the belief that life isn't valuable on its own, but based on which arbitrary group has the biggest number of lives. By that logic, America deserves to die so it can quit threatening the larger population of China.Redryhno said:Why does he continue to let his villains survive?
He did imprison Doomsday in the old continuity. I have no idea if he has done in the Nu52.Redryhno said:Why does he not imprison Doomsday and make that his sole duty to the universe?
The Daily Planet routinely reports on Lex Luthor's criminal activities. Luthor buys better press, and people choose to believe it. Superman can't change that.Redryhno said:Why does Clark Kent not do his own investigative reporting on LexCorp when he finds out as Superman how corrupt Luthor is?
Because he was Clark Kent long before he was Superman, and Clark Kent needs human contact like anyone else does.Redryhno said:Why does Clark Kent exist when all he honestly has to do is reveal himself as Superman and retreat to his Fortress of Solitude for when he's not sorely needed?
Ah. Well, this might be bad memory on my part, so correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Kryptonian babies impossible to fertilize because Kal-El had the...shit, I forget what they called that MacGuffin, but the Matrix of Life or whatever in his body? The one that Zod was going to have to kill Kal-El to get? I don't personally consider abortion to be murder in the case of the birth definitely causing the death of the mother, and the situation is completely analogous here if I'm remembering it correctly.Happyninja42 said:...uh, he shot his laser eyes through the hull of the babyship, thus destroying all the embryonic Kryptonians that were in suspended animation on that vessel. That counts as genocide in my book.JimB said:Murder them? How so? He just sent most of them back to the Phantom Zone...though I guess reasonable people can argue that banishing someone from physical reality isn't especially different from murdering them.Happyninja42 said:Deciding to murder an entire species based on the actions of a handful of them.
...Wait, how did Zod even have a babyship? Did he say he found it in the Phantom Zone or something? God damn it, this is gonna bug me. I'm gonna have to watch this Christing movie again. Fuck. Well, it'll probably be on FX or some shit before much longer.