Can Zombies exist or not?

[Edward123454321]

Yeah agree, the producer of that film... what's his face, specifically said, they're infected with a rage virus, they're not zombies.

EDIT: Oh forgot to quote, I fucking hate quoting, bascially they were talking about 28 Days Later Zombies... so yeah..

 

[Slick Samurai]

Well, in the case of the rabies virus, it is very unlikely that a human would be affected in the same way as an animal. Even if they were able to mutate or evolve the rabies virus to cause aggression, the host would still die as most animals with rabies die: dehydration. So, even if somehow a virus sweeps the nation and you have fast-moving, "infected" on your hands, just sit on your ass for a couple days. Logic: 1, Zombies: 0

For the actual zombies (the undead, shambling kind) there are the classical Voodoo "zombies". These zombies are created by a Voodoo priest using various chemicals to sedate a person to the point of the person appearing dead. When more chemicals are applied, the person can awaken but only with limited motor control and instincts. At this point, sometimes the "zombies" are used as slave labor, but they show no signs of aggression. Logic: 2, Zombies: 0

Cyborg Zombies (zombies created through nano-bots) are the most realistic zombie. Assuming that at some point in the future we have perfected nano technology (somewhat likely), they can be used to "re-program" the brain for aggressive acts. However, the technology required to program the brain to perform continued specific actions (i.e. killing people) is far beyond our reach at the moment. Even then, nano-bots are electromechanical and can be countered in numerous ways. Logic: 2 1/2, Zombies: 1/2

 

[Infernostrider]

im sure this has been posted already, but here's my 2 cents:

Zombies in the traditional sense, walking corpses functioning without a brain, a beating heart, functioning lungs, a functioning nervous system, are impossible to exist to current human knowledge.

However, if the bodies organs are left intact, every single one of them, and the brains activities reduced to the bare minimum, i believe it to be well possible for a person to land in a sort of zombie-like state. I very much doubt you'll crave brainmatter, but your brain would force you through the motions to keep the body alive like a puppeteer would make a puppet dance. This would probably include cannabalism, if humans were the closest source of food one could access safely.

 

[Kuchinawa212]

*ahem*

Have we found a way to bring a previously dead person back to life, with no feeling for pain and the only basic functions to move and feed, whilst being able to live without needing any other organs?

No? Well there ya go

 

[klawhammer]

Don't any of you catch the train to work in the morning?

 

[crudus]

Zombies can not exist.
Once you die your brain stops working, therefore, there is nothing to stimulate your muscles to move.

You can have a system of nanobots to stimulate your muscles.

 

[Billion Backs]

Everything you can think of is true. i am open to the possibility of zombies. stranger things have happened like for example people.

Sir, on behalf of Nigerian National Bank, I have selected you to receive an unlikely big sum for nothing at all!

And my voodoo priest friends tells me that your money are cursed and if you hold on to them, a bigfoot zombie will murder you next tuesday after rain. Send us all your money and we shall cleanse the curse!

>_>

<__>

 

[crudus]

Zombies can not exist.
Once you die your brain stops working, therefore, there is nothing to stimulate your muscles to move.

You can have a system of nanobots to stimulate your muscles.

A zombie is a living corpse.
You can not be alive and dead at the same time.
Therefore zombies can not nor will ever exist.
What you just described is a binch of robots controlling a corpse, that's different.

It really doesn't matter at the point where a walking corpse is coming at you trying to eat your brains.

 

[Klarinette]

Oh Mr T, is there anything you don't know?

'Cause knowledge is power! ^_^ (yay for obscure School House Rock reference)

I keep seeing pretty much the same argument: zombies cannot exist as the flesh-eating undead that we see in games and movies. Humans infected with some sort of virus (i.e. rabies) that makes them rabid, yes.

 

[Nikajo]

Zombies can not exist.
Once you die your brain stops working, therefore, there is nothing to stimulate your muscles to move.

You can have a system of nanobots to stimulate your muscles.

Muscle movement relies heavily on calcium signalling. Calcium moves in waves through the cells that make up muscle tissue, but to do this is has to be able to diffuse through cytoplasm/gap junctions. A dead body will become dehydrated and the calcium will not be able to move through the tissue and calcium signalling will become impossible.

The nanobots would have to be able to enter the cell without damaging it and then be able to cause release of calcium from the endoplasmic/sarcoplastic reticulum and mitochondria stores and then be able to subsequently produce enough energey to pump the calcium back into the stores. None of this could happen because the dehydration means the calcium can't diffuse anywhere. It's just not possible.

 

[garlicncow]

A person - frontal lobes +cannibal= zombie
Because they won't be there mentally but still survive and try to eat people from being a cannibal and such so yeah, I can see zombies, you just need an airborne virus that causes both and has the survivability of anthrax.

 

[Marmooset]

In my native Russia, there's a fucking evil skeleton wizard character that probably dates to before Christianity. While it's hardly a zombie, it's an undead, and given the fascination people always had with death it's very reasonable to assume that current zombies in some way inherited some things from older western undead creatures in folklore.

OK - I demand to know more about this guy. The hell with zombies, he sounds like fun!

 

[twaddle]

£5 says that someone will post the Cracked article.

i second that motion

 

[twaddle]

A person - frontal lobes +cannibal= zombie
Because they won't be there mentally but still survive and try to eat people from being a cannibal and such so yeah, I can see zombies, you just need an airborne virus that causes both and has the survivability of anthrax.

if you want zombies that could actually exist; read steven king's book :cell. while they are not really zombies, at their first stages they are pretty simular, after their brain reboots however thats another story

 

[Rainboq]

Zombies can not exist.
Once you die your brain stops working, therefore, there is nothing to stimulate your muscles to move.

I takes months for your brain to fully die you know.

Not true.
Why do you think people get brain damage from a stroke or if they nearly suffocate?
It's because some brain cells have died.
That's only minutes.

He meant until it fully decays, the cells are still dead though.

 

[John Stolte]

Zombies can not exist.
Once you die your brain stops working, therefore, there is nothing to stimulate your muscles to move.

well ut thinking of the zombie in the literal sense, what about 28 days later where a disease changes people into a angry zombies biters

They are not zombies then, they are something else.
A zombie is a "living" corpse.
You can't be dead & alive at the same time, it's completely illogical.

The word zombie itself I feel is an oxymoron.

I think they mean like resident evil where you got a virus triggering flesh rotting and flesh cravings. And the brain eating away important things, like the ability to reason.