They can't not pay it. That is the point. Everyone pays this, if you want internet, you pay this extra tax. But this isn't going to recoup money for record companies or artists. It would actually serve to put the final nail in the coffin.mjc0961 said:This might help, but it wouldn't stop it. There are always some super-selfish people who are going to say "$10? No way, downloading it illegally is free."
Wow, you must spend a lot of money on music if that seems like a good idea to you. You must be Oprah rich.Tankichi said:120 a month for all the music you want? Doesn't actually sound like a bad idea.
Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
o-o Wow. Steven Harper gained my respect.Mekado said:Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
Such services already exist.Sacman said:$10 a month for a clear conscience... that makes sense to me...
Hell, it makes sense to me... everyone gets their music, everyone gets their money and everyone is happy...
Uhh trying to push? Both Rogers and Bell already do it here in Ontario. Rogers has for years. I don't know how long Bell has.Mekado said:Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
If you mean quotas, yes all the big ISP's have them, what they were trying to push was that Bell/Rogers could now charge these fees through their resellers meaning the small ISP (who obviously lease some lines from Bell or whoever) would have been forced to charge it too.squid5580 said:Uhh trying to push? Both Rogers and Bell already do it here in Ontario. Rogers has for years. I don't know how long Bell has.Mekado said:Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
Those smaller companies keep their bandwidth use down by having shit internet speed. At least that is the case in my only plan B. It is why I am with Bell now.Mekado said:If you mean quotas, yes all the big ISP's have them, what they were trying to push was that Bell/Rogers could now charge these fees through their resellers meaning the small ISP (who obviously lease some lines from Bell or whoever) would have been forced to charge it too.squid5580 said:Uhh trying to push? Both Rogers and Bell already do it here in Ontario. Rogers has for years. I don't know how long Bell has.Mekado said:Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
So, in effect, that would have eliminated "plan B, going with another ISP" if you need a lot of bandwitdh, since every single ISP would charge this, this would also have killed a lot of smaller ISP's, since they usually set themselves apart from the "big boys" with huge/no quotas and/or smaller fees.
You are indeed correct for most cases.squid5580 said:Those smaller companies keep their bandwidth use down by having shit internet speed. At least that is the case in my only plan B. It is why I am with Bell now.Mekado said:If you mean quotas, yes all the big ISP's have them, what they were trying to push was that Bell/Rogers could now charge these fees through their resellers meaning the small ISP (who obviously lease some lines from Bell or whoever) would have been forced to charge it too.squid5580 said:Uhh trying to push? Both Rogers and Bell already do it here in Ontario. Rogers has for years. I don't know how long Bell has.Mekado said:Hmm, "Canada" didn't endorse usage-based billing at all, it's something the CRTC tried to push through until they've been told "reverse it, or *I* reverse it" by Stephen Harper, our PM...squid5580 said:And are we forgetting this is Canada. The country that wants to charge people for how much internet they use in the first place. This is just messed up.
So, in effect, that would have eliminated "plan B, going with another ISP" if you need a lot of bandwitdh, since every single ISP would charge this, this would also have killed a lot of smaller ISP's, since they usually set themselves apart from the "big boys" with huge/no quotas and/or smaller fees.
Not that it's really relevant to the matter at hand but... legal how?Gaderael said:SO, they want to charge me up to $120 a year for something that is already legal (or at the minimum a grey area) for me to do?