Capitalism
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The reasons Capitalism is the dominant system is:
1) It had a 1500 year head start. People have been taught to be greedy for over a millennia.
2) Early Capitalist nations had a head start, and this allows them to exploit less stable Capitalist nations. This pyramid-scheme is the reason we see USA going to war on every de facto colony that wishes economical independence.
3) The same pyramid scheme applies to individuals. Individuals who have come into a lot of wealth do not wish to lose it, but still do not want others to gain it. They see it fit to try to fool everyone else that it is a free economy and that anyone can become rich, but never allow any empathy or logical action as it goes against their goals of always being better than everyone else. They feed off others being less fortunate.
1) It had a 1500 year head start. People have been taught to be greedy for over a millennia.
2) Early Capitalist nations had a head start, and this allows them to exploit less stable Capitalist nations. This pyramid-scheme is the reason we see USA going to war on every de facto colony that wishes economical independence.
3) The same pyramid scheme applies to individuals. Individuals who have come into a lot of wealth do not wish to lose it, but still do not want others to gain it. They see it fit to try to fool everyone else that it is a free economy and that anyone can become rich, but never allow any empathy or logical action as it goes against their goals of always being better than everyone else. They feed off others being less fortunate.
I beg to differ. Capitalism exists because people are greedy, thus it works far better than other economical models when put into practice.Major Major Major said:
No absolutely no. Those of you who claim that Capitalism is better and we shouldn't try Socialism because it wouldn't work in a real world, think of this. It might not work because we live in a Capitalistic world, and you are not willing to try to make it better.
theres nothing better than capitalism at the moment, communism is fundamentally flawed so will not work without major changes
capitalistic socialism is best but it is capitalism, I mean western european and scandinavian systems with these. not the rot in the gutter capitalism of the usa
capitalistic socialism is best but it is capitalism, I mean western european and scandinavian systems with these. not the rot in the gutter capitalism of the usa
Yup. That about sums it up: Capitalism is "Only the people with capital survive" and "Work for the people with capital and they may allow you to eat if you don't get sassy". That's the way it should be.lwm3398 said:
I jest. Capitalism is only a bad idea if it hasn't been tinkered with enough by socialist precepts.
Capitalism in itself isn't bad the problem with it is that people who have money want more and are less willing to dish it out. Let's say, on WAGES which are god awful low. The gap between the rich and the poor is now wider than its ever been in any period in history. Don't argue I have a picture of a guy with a McClaren Mercedes made of WHITE GOLD!!! I can barely afford to pay for my necessities, let alone people who are on the streets and starving and this guy has a car with no purpose but to show how god damn rich the bastard is. This is where the problem in capitalism lies. Money attracts money and the rest of us are left with the meagre scraps we can gather. I will support any system of government that promotes both kindness and generosity to your fellow human beings whilst also allowing people the opportunity to become rich without being either bastards.
Or, maybe capitalism works because it gives people what they want, a chance to shine, be successful, and have pride in what you do, rather than having everything done for you.tjarne said:
But your right, socialism works so well for all the countries that use it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/2010/04/greece_bankruptcy_hovers.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela
This point seems flawed, based on the fact that new, very, rich people pop up every day. Capitalism allows for anyone with talent to be successful. No one said it would be easy, and it rarely is.Kair said:
You make it sound impossible to become wealthy, because of the big mean rich people, but that is simply not true. The Stock market, for example, allows people to become very wealthy very quickly, when done right. People start their own buisnesses and become millionaires, (Bill Gates?) And not all rich people are greedy bastards. Warren Buffet, who I believe is still the wealthiest man in the world, (I could be wrong, he might be #2 or 3) has lived in the same, small, middle class home his entire life, and his will lays out a plan to give like, 95% of his wealth away when he dies.
Basically, you are looking at the idea of Capitalism in a very pessimistic way. Yes, it is hard to make money, and there is always a lot of risk involved. People find ways around to laws and screw everyone over, (current economic crises anyone?) but the economy ALWAYS bounces back. ALWAYS. If you try hard enough, you can be successful in a capitalistic economy. And I'd much rather have that slim chance than no chance at all in a socialistic economy.
WTF THERE WAS SOMETHING CALLED THE SOVIET UNION?!Shynobee said:
/of sarcasm
You seriously claim that a nurse in Prag is less worth than one in Stockholm? Just because he/she earns less money? Don't come and say anything else, if you believe the capital should decide that's exactly what it means.
Also it won't be equal for everyone in capitalism, some will still be born poor. And rich won't let anyone share the cookies.
Sorry for caps and such, but you seriously don't think I know of the soviet union?
Someone else put it best when they said that capitalism is flawed in the same way that gravity is flawed. Sure it produces a lot of undesirable results and can be very unforgiving at times but it's nature. Humans are not a communistic species as we have a very strong sense of self.
One day we may live in a Marxist society but with the technology of today, it is simply impossible. A Marxist society would be one where the concerns of today have not only been solved, they will have been rendered irrelevant. It would be a society that is unimaginable today just the same as the internet was unimaginable back in 1889.
One day we may live in a Marxist society but with the technology of today, it is simply impossible. A Marxist society would be one where the concerns of today have not only been solved, they will have been rendered irrelevant. It would be a society that is unimaginable today just the same as the internet was unimaginable back in 1889.