Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I found the rest of your reply favourable, yes. But I still dare say that the presence of the article "a" does matter. "A female" is a noun, whereas "female" can be an adjective. In saying "I am female and blah blah" I meant to indicate my sex.KaizokuouHasu said:Forgive me, but there isn't. You still used the word 'Female'. That said, I hope you found a favourable answer in the rest of my post.
Kindly.
// A cat.
Actually yes, their opinions would still be valid. They would be hate-filled and likely non-beneficial for society but they would still hold a belief and view with meaning thus providing them with validation.Sephychu said:Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I guess I just think that there is such a thing as a bad opinion.
If I posted a thread asking for opinions on Hitler's actions throughout his life, you wouldn't say that his supporters had valid opinions, would you?
Yes, it's a far stronger example, but the principle scales, no?
What is morally weak about it?Quagmirian said:Sleeping around is considered by some, and partially me, to be a sign of moral weakness.
Nah, they'll be relieved you weren't using something as evil as condoms!FalloutJack said:I'm open-minded. The only thing though is that my family is strongly Catholic and my brother's a priest, so we gotta make sure a child doesn't bounce out or they'll try to brow-beat me into a non-casual relationship.
Ah, then it is our definitions of valid that are at a discrepancy. You say valid is backed by belief and possession of view, I say valid is past that, and beneficial to society as a whole, and adherent to societal standards.tobi the good boy said:Actually yes, their opinions would still be valid. They would be hate-filled and likely non-beneficial for society but they would still hold a belief and view with meaning thus providing them with validation.Sephychu said:Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I guess I just think that there is such a thing as a bad opinion.
If I posted a thread asking for opinions on Hitler's actions throughout his life, you wouldn't say that his supporters had valid opinions, would you?
Yes, it's a far stronger example, but the principle scales, no?
As long as their is feeling and reason behind an opinion it is valid ... Actions however MUST adhere to societal standards.
I agree with pretty much all of that, and personally I choose to be monogamous, however I don't view marriage exactly the same way you do. The marriage itself should be a celebration of your love, closer to a party than some regal ceremony. As for the document, it's basically just this sweet deal heterosexual couples have worked out with the government to get tax benefits n such. It should always be the relationship that's important, the piece of paper can fuck right off, but I don't think passing up on having your monogamous relationship and getting tax breaks and benefits from it too is necessarily a bad thing.Verlander said:Prudishness is a sign of a weak mind. I say bad sex, coupled with redundant conservative "moral" values, is ultimately responsible for a massive amount of the evil in the world. So clearly I am pro casual sex. Moreover, I am anti-marriage. It's an obsolete sacrament now, we should move on, rather than attempt to hold the people you apparently love hostage via a legal document. If you choose to be monogamous, that's your choice, you don't need a state sanctioned contract to do so. To me, that's the least romantic thing in the world.
I find this kind of offensive. Sex is fun and if you can find a single, STD-free person to have it with, no strings attached, then why not go for it? Personally I don't understand prudish people, why do they make such a big deal out of it?RollForInitiative said:I generally have zero respect for people that do that, as I find they frequently have little respect for their own bodies either.
To each, their own, but I have very little interest in spending time with people like that.
I edited that bit as quickly as I could to 'Laws'Sephychu said:Ah, then it is our definitions of valid that are at a discrepancy. You say valid is backed by belief and possession of view, I say valid is past that, and beneficial to society as a whole, and adherent to societal standards.tobi the good boy said:Actually yes, their opinions would still be valid. They would be hate-filled and likely non-beneficial for society but they would still hold a belief and view with meaning thus providing them with validation.Sephychu said:Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I guess I just think that there is such a thing as a bad opinion.
If I posted a thread asking for opinions on Hitler's actions throughout his life, you wouldn't say that his supporters had valid opinions, would you?
Yes, it's a far stronger example, but the principle scales, no?
As long as their is feeling and reason behind an opinion it is valid ... Actions however MUST adhere to societal standards.
As relative to this conversation, societal standards such as 'Don't judge me, I'll live my life how I like'.
Neutral discussions are extremely dull. Proper discussions [Like this one that we are having right now], come from people with differing viewpoints sitting down and going over their merits. There are other parts of them too, but you get the idea. Neutrality is not the ideal position to be in.tobi the good boy said:I edited that bit as quickly as I could to 'Laws'Sephychu said:Ah, then it is our definitions of valid that are at a discrepancy. You say valid is backed by belief and possession of view, I say valid is past that, and beneficial to society as a whole, and adherent to societal standards.tobi the good boy said:Actually yes, their opinions would still be valid. They would be hate-filled and likely non-beneficial for society but they would still hold a belief and view with meaning thus providing them with validation.Sephychu said:Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I guess I just think that there is such a thing as a bad opinion.
If I posted a thread asking for opinions on Hitler's actions throughout his life, you wouldn't say that his supporters had valid opinions, would you?
Yes, it's a far stronger example, but the principle scales, no?
As long as their is feeling and reason behind an opinion it is valid ... Actions however MUST adhere to societal standards.
As relative to this conversation, societal standards such as 'Don't judge me, I'll live my life how I like'.
But yes this is where our issue stems from. I can't really say I agree with your definition but I can say it seems like it would be more difficult to have neutral discussion with.
I must admit I do find that definition of something as "Valid" being a bit skewed. by the sounds of things it like saying "It doesn't exist without falling within the confines of what I perceive."
In the almighty words of Rummy. "There are known knowns and known unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns."
You both could debate this all day and still be nowhere near the forum topic. Just saying.Sephychu said:Neutral discussions are extremely dull. Proper discussions [Like this one that we are having right now], come from people with differing viewpoints sitting down and going over their merits. There are other parts of them too, but you get the idea. Neutrality is not the ideal position to be in.tobi the good boy said:I edited that bit as quickly as I could to 'Laws'Sephychu said:Ah, then it is our definitions of valid that are at a discrepancy. You say valid is backed by belief and possession of view, I say valid is past that, and beneficial to society as a whole, and adherent to societal standards.tobi the good boy said:Actually yes, their opinions would still be valid. They would be hate-filled and likely non-beneficial for society but they would still hold a belief and view with meaning thus providing them with validation.Sephychu said:Well, maybe.tobi the good boy said:As much as I 100% agree with what you said, the OP asked for 'opinions' on the topic of casual sex so both sides of the spectrum are going to be heard with equal ground. telling them to be quiet because their opinion doesn't suit our own is not the way to approach this thread.Sephychu said:Myself? Not too hot on it. I'm an emotional wreck as it is, I think casual sex might drive me totally insane.
However, I'm far from judging other people over it. People wanna have sex, how the nuts is that my business? Go right ahead.
Those people who frown on it need to realise that it isn't their place to tell other people how to conduct their lives in that area.
However, if you are going to do it, shut up about it. I don't want you dumping all your self-made problems on me. You knew full well what you were getting into.
I guess I just think that there is such a thing as a bad opinion.
If I posted a thread asking for opinions on Hitler's actions throughout his life, you wouldn't say that his supporters had valid opinions, would you?
Yes, it's a far stronger example, but the principle scales, no?
As long as their is feeling and reason behind an opinion it is valid ... Actions however MUST adhere to societal standards.
As relative to this conversation, societal standards such as 'Don't judge me, I'll live my life how I like'.
But yes this is where our issue stems from. I can't really say I agree with your definition but I can say it seems like it would be more difficult to have neutral discussion with.
I must admit I do find that definition of something as "Valid" being a bit skewed. by the sounds of things it like saying "It doesn't exist without falling within the confines of what I perceive."
In the almighty words of Rummy. "There are known knowns and known unknowns. But there are also unknown unknowns."
The point I am making here is that I think opinions that are obviously deconstructive to society or even just personal relationships are not arbitrarily 'as good' as any other opinion out there. To me that doesn't make any sense.