That sounds like an awesome premise for a game. I see it now, god, upset by humanity's enlightenment to his bullshit begins the apocalypse, but Satan won't have it, in the name of free will he launches an attack on the "almighty". You play as Satan, fighting god's mindless angels and archangels leading up to the big guy.The Human Torch said:Aw, two death cults are worried their magic, invisible friends might be used to fight. Yeah, it's not like religion has a history of violence, with gods smiting animals, childeren and other innocents.
I figured it's high time that these gods duke it out among themselves, instead of sacrificing humans like lambs.
That's one of the reasons its ridiculous. This is not the first or last time a religious deity/figure will be depicted in a video game, evil or otherwise. They have to get over it.likalaruku said:I seem to remember an old SNES game that depicted Shiva as an evil demon.
When it comes to religion, what constitutes an insult is purely subjective(in most cases). If I said Christianity was idiotic and is holding back humanity to a Christian, they would very likely take it as an insult, even though I truly believe that is the truth, and it's not meant as an insult.scw55 said:I think the worst aspect of this are the response, to the response who are obnoxious little trolls.
Yes this is the internet and people are dickwads. But I am bored of extremes.
You can never have a good discussion on the internet as it always consists of insults, like I started off with. The internet doesn't need Religion, it has Douche Baggery as a belief.
How can you reason that that is not an insult?Zing said:When it comes to religion, what constitutes an insult is purely subjective(in most cases). If I said Christianity was idiotic and is holding back humanity to a Christian, they would very likely take it as an insult, even though I truly believe that is the truth, and it's not meant as an insult.
I already explained why. I really can't elaborate anymore than that. I consider it fact, how can facts be insulting?Glademaster said:How can you reason that that is not an insult?
Just because you believe something is true and don't mean it as an insult does not suddenly make it uninsulting. No it isn't a fact and apparently a real fact can be an insult such as the current colour of ones hair. Although, if you are trying to get at gravity not being insulting that is flawed statement compared to what you said.Zing said:I already explained why. I really can't elaborate anymore than that. I consider it fact, how can facts be insulting?Glademaster said:How can you reason that that is not an insult?
What's your reasoning that it isn't a fact? The universe is billions of years old, we evolved from apes, we did not all descend from two people, the texts that represent these religions are man-made, fictional and full of contradictions and medieval nonsense. These are facts, my friend.Glademaster said:Just because you believe something is true and don't mean it as an insult does not suddenly make it uninsulting. No it isn't a fact and apparently a real fact can be an insult such as the current colour of ones hair. Although, if you are trying to get at gravity not being insulting that is flawed statement compared to what you said.
This is pretty much what these people are doing. As in they are religious believe their deities are fact and thus find these representation insulting.
Opinion. What constitutes "draconian moderation" or an "uptight elitist cesspool" is subjective. Science is by definition, objective, and based on real evidence.Edit: To add to this if someone believes the Escapist is an uptight elitist cesspool with draconian moderation as fact does that make them saying that any less insulting?
Heathen is not an insulting word. I AM a heathen, all Atheist/Agnostics are heathens by definition. Heathen is literally a word to describe non-believers.Lyri said:The amount of immaturity and intolerance in this thread is pretty terrible - but it's not surprising considering the Escapists crowd.
I really don't understand why everyone here who claims themselves to be Atheist seems to find it ok that they can keep calling a religious deity an imaginary friend, that's no better than the religious folks calling you heathens or sinners.
That actually sounds cool. But which religion is the right one? And does that religious deity that has been deemed the "right one" kill followers of other religions just because they were wrong?Lyri said:Imagine if this was the other way around and it was a religious funded project that had everyone play as a vengeful deity come to purge the atheists off the face of the Earth?
You bet this forum would be in uproar with the usual how dare they.
Well, the difference is that you don't care either way. Religious people do. And the devs are using religious icons to make money. They are taking something that people hold dearly in their hearts, an icon that gives them hope and inspiration, and using it to extract cash from adolescents screaming at each other over the chat channels about how big their e-penises are.Zing said:Heathen is not an insulting word. I AM a heathen, all Atheist/Agnostics are heathens by definition. Heathen is literally a word to describe non-believers.Lyri said:The amount of immaturity and intolerance in this thread is pretty terrible - but it's not surprising considering the Escapists crowd.
I really don't understand why everyone here who claims themselves to be Atheist seems to find it ok that they can keep calling a religious deity an imaginary friend, that's no better than the religious folks calling you heathens or sinners.
Similarly, by that religious persons belief, I am also a sinner, this doesn't bother me either because I don't believe the consequence that would classify me as a sinner to people of this or that faith.
A deity IS an imaginary friend. There is no evidence of it's existence, no one has ever seen it.
That actually sounds cool. But which religion is the right one? And does that religious deity that has been deemed the "right one" kill followers of other religions just because they were wrong?Lyri said:Imagine if this was the other way around and it was a religious funded project that had everyone play as a vengeful deity come to purge the atheists off the face of the Earth?
You bet this forum would be in uproar with the usual how dare they.
No such game would exist because, if anything, it highlights the problems with religion.
Who says I don't care? I care about willfully ignorant religious people impeding artistic process and freedom of speech. You're using hyperbole to over generalize the game, how do you think the devs feel? They've spent months and months making this game and now these groups claim that it "trivializes" these "supreme beings". Sorry, but I say that these groups are trivializing the work of Hi-Rez Studio. And to me, their work is FAR more important than ANY religion.beniki said:Well, the difference is that you don't care either way. Religious people do. And the devs are using religious icons to make money. They are taking something that people hold dearly in their hearts, an icon that gives them hope and inspiration, and using it to extract cash from adolescents screaming at each other over the chat channels about how big their e-penises are.
I wouldn't usually care about this issue, but whenever someone's response to hurt feelings is 'QQ some more', ignoring the the thoughts and emotions of a human being just because it's uncomfortable for them, well, gets on my tits a bit.
Right one, wrong one doesn't come into this. Just a little bit of empathy for an issue people hold close would be nice.
Ah well. Can't stop people being people I guess.