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nightmare_gorilla

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I'm optimistic about sunset overdrive that game looks like a blast and a half. it looks to have a large focus on FUN something a lot of games these days just forget about.

I'm optimistic that next year we can hopefully see a lot more reasons to purchase a new gen console in the form of kick ass games. right now there's just not enough pushing me towards either one. I do really want to play sunset overdrive but one game does not justify a $500 purchase.
 

SidheKnight

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You beat me to Batman vs. Superman, so I'll go with my second choice:

I think the Fantastic Four reboot could actually be good.
 

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Well...
Dumb and Dumber To will be one of those movies that, despite no one really asking for it, they all realize that they needed this movie to exist this whole time!
Kingdom Hearts 3 will be fucking worth it... even on the Xbox One, which would also get some Saga-esque KH collection for those that want to catch up with the series overall!
Adventure Time is still a very awesome show... and everyone should get Seasons 2-4 on Blu-Ray! (Season 1 is still worth the DVD purchase, mind you!)
Star Wars: Rebels, despite a rough start almost similar to The Clone Wars, will be worth the watch from start to finish!
The English dubbing of Hyperdimension Neptunia: The Animation will become a reality... as well as me purchasing it on Blu-Ray on Day 1!

My optimism's so high, I'm not sure if I'm making some of this stuff up just for the extra optimism points in my book!
 

Something Amyss

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bug_of_war said:
The way it's going, most companies would have to have huge balls to dive in. The Ouya has pretty much disappeared, the Steam Box isn't even something casual gamers are aware of, the fact that gaming has gotten so expensive that the Wii U is relying almost solely on first party games to sell itself due to bigger companies not seeing the value in porting games over to them. Right now it's really not looking like a good place to jump into, and the very fact that we really only have 3 home consoles shows that companies are too scared to jump in. There are roughly 10 ways we can watch film and television, 4 or 5 ways in which we can listen to music, yet it's becoming very clear that if you wanna play a majority of games on a console, you really only have 2 options.
I wouldn't hold Ouya or Steam Machines against the console market. Both are poorly conceived. I'll grant some utility to the Steam Machine, but it's been struggling to find an identity and even Valve doesn't seem to know who it's for. Speaking of Valve, thanks to Valve Time, it's a logistical nightmare to put them out as advertised, and you've got units shipping without the controller.

Ouya's just a dumb idea. I mean, I could see a market for non-portable Android games I guess, but most of what they did was try and adopt the mobile games to a non-mobile device, completely defeating 90% of the appeal. Considering I can use my phone (Which I needed in the first place, and will have to upgrade at least every few years anyway) on a TV, use a bluetooth controller already, and still game portably when I want? Meh.

Meanwhile, Sony and Microsoft just managed one of the best console launches in history, without much in the way of actual games or anything. Even if MS got relatively spanked, it still sold a lot of units. As did Nintendo, whose biggest problem was falling short of their prediction of a bazillion units sold. We've seen some of the biggest record sales of games in the last cycle, including GTA V on eight year old hardware.

The only way I see this changing is if a console manufacturer leaves the market because the market itself becomes too toxic. In that case, monopolies don't matter, they're probably all fucked.

There is also the possibility that the console market itself loses steam, but that hasn't happened yet, despite the now decades-old claim that the last gen was nigh. And honestly, any sea change that kills the console market is likely to also kill PC gaming as we know it. That probably upset a few people with unrealistic expectations or perhaps even a tribalist attitude, but it's realistic. There will pretty much always be a market for a simplified gaming system. There will always be a sizable chunk of people who want to game on their couch and can't be arsed with a gaming PC. That changes if the concept of a PC changes, and pretty much only then.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
PSPO is a typo. I have very large, semi-functional hands which sometimes miss things. I catch most of my mistakes in editing, but acronyms, abbreviations, etc. are easier to miss. I actually read it as PSPGo. Twice. >.<

Anyway, a problem with the entire line of PSP is the mess of online support. This was especially bad for the digital-only Go, but it's still an issue with the Vita. The Vita has also had support issues, and now they're slashing first-party support. The thing's been around for what, three years?
I know that feel. My post a lot from my phone and it has an automatic keyboard that corrects my mistakes but not when I accidentally skip words so some of my posts look like broken English. So you're talking about how Sony seems to neglect their handhelds and don't make many first party games? I guess that's true too. I never really thought of it as getting screwed over but when you see Nintendo has put on their handhelds then its obvious Sony is obligated to put in the same effort

There is also the possibility that the console market itself loses steam, but that hasn't happened yet, despite the now decades-old claim that the last gen was nigh. And honestly, any sea change that kills the console market is likely to also kill PC gaming as we know it. That probably upset a few people with unrealistic expectations or perhaps even a tribalist attitude, but it's realistic. There will pretty much always be a market for a simplified gaming system. There will always be a sizable chunk of people who want to game on their couch and can't be arsed with a gaming PC. That changes if the concept of a PC changes, and pretty much only then.
The truth. Some people just like keeping pc's at arm's length even though they like video games. Just plug in the disk and press "ok" a few times is all the effort some like to put in. If you lose consoles, you can't sell games to those people and it could even hurt platforms like Steam or GoG if they have less games to sell

bug_of_war said:
They almost did though, originally they were also going to implement an always online required connection for the PS4, but because of the outrage thrown towards Microsoft, they made the business decision that would make them look better. Yeah at the end of the day they chose the option best for consumers, but I highly doubt that that was the reason they chose it.

Doesn't matter where your company is based or what race/culture you're a part of, a business is their primarily to make money.
True but when the xbone was unveiled, an xbox guy who was interviewed by Wired casually said "I think it needs to connect every 24 hours" and people lost their god damn minds. Microsoft then said that's not completely true and after 2 months of people throwing a ***** fit about it, they confirmed the always online anyway. Microsoft knew how people felt about it but thought they had big enough dicks to get away with it. Sony on the other seems a little more afraid/respectful of what their users want.

I just think Japanese people are a little more "invested" in their companies. "At least a dozen Japanese business executives have killed themselves over business setbacks since 1998" is something I read in article about Toyota back when their cars were having break failures...
 

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PoolCleaningRobot said:
True but when the xbone was unveiled, an xbox guy who was interviewed by Wired casually said "I think it needs to connect every 24 hours" and people lost their god damn minds. Microsoft then said that's not completely true and after 2 months of people throwing a ***** fit about it, they confirmed the always online anyway. Microsoft knew how people felt about it but thought they had big enough dicks to get away with it. Sony on the other seems a little more afraid/respectful of what their users want.
I agree with most of what you said, so don't think I'm ignoring or disregarding. It's just, well, all I would really say is something like "yeah," whereas this I have something to specify.

Keep in mind that we saw similar hubris from the PS3. It's why they had an expensive unit with a difficult-to-code-for architecture and they were convinced they were going to be the shit this gen anyway. They thought that an 800 dollar console would sell like crazy, and...They were wrong.

I just think Japanese people are a little more "invested" in their companies. "At least a dozen Japanese business executives have killed themselves over business setbacks since 1998" is something I read in article about Toyota back when their cars were having break failures...
Japan has a different set of social pressures, where many people work themselves to death or fall on their swords (figuratively), but that hasn't kept most of their business out of the toilet. At the same time, it's awesome that Iwata took a pay cut because that would never happen here, but it doesn't change the underlying problem that Iwata is most likely a part of.
 

bug_of_war

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PoolCleaningRobot said:
True but when the xbone was unveiled, an xbox guy who was interviewed by Wired casually said "I think it needs to connect every 24 hours" and people lost their god damn minds. Microsoft then said that's not completely true and after 2 months of people throwing a ***** fit about it, they confirmed the always online anyway. Microsoft knew how people felt about it but thought they had big enough dicks to get away with it. Sony on the other seems a little more afraid/respectful of what their users want.

I just think Japanese people are a little more "invested" in their companies. "At least a dozen Japanese business executives have killed themselves over business setbacks since 1998" is something I read in article about Toyota back when their cars were having break failures...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Sony has shown themselves to be as bad as what Microsoft have, I just don't think we should ever let our guard down. You can be loyal whilst also being cautious.