Strazdas said:
Except for all the sex scenes. Considering all the rape that happens in the books and there are only 2 full frontal nude scenes in the first two seasons...
They shoot around a lot of nudity, They make up for it in gore (Which is a weird American thing, but still)
Rape? I dont remember any rape in the books. I mean unless you count the Dathraki pilaging the city they conquered, then yes, there is a scene in the book where Daenerys is walking down the street and sees women beign raped. It seems to ahve been cut and went straight for Daenerys talking to Drago. before that the weddign ceremony rapes were shown in the show.
I don't know first hand, but I was told there was a lot more rape in the books than in the show. It might have been the Dothraki part.
When the actual quality of the show takes such a hit from poor casting decisions.
I agree, however i can udnerstand such decisions as working with real age actors would simply be impossible for current television.
Yeah, kind of hard to do 5 seasons worth of principle photography before a kid gets a growth spurt
They've changed Game of Thrones from (What I'm assuming, because I've never read the books) a story about kids being thrust into overwhelming situations because of some stupid struggle over some big metal chair nobody cares about. into a show about stupid emotional adults with no sense of priority in a harsh and unforgiving world and it just makes you wonder what the hell happened to natural selection in Winterfell.
so you assume (imagine) what happened in the books, compare the show to your imagination, and declare that show is inferior. okay.... >.> <.<
uh hu... but was I wrong?
If the characters in the books were adults would you have liked the books as much?
I should read the books before I compare anything to them, but a hypothetical version of Game of Thrones that is exactly the same as the HBO show except the characters were all their intended ages would be leagues better.
With all these characters being 15, 13, 10 How ever old Aria and Joffery are supposed to be. still living under their parents roofs it makes sense for them to be stupid and emotional because they don't know what a difficult life is. Adults would understand that sometimes people get them selves killed.
so your claiming no adult ever acts stupidly, makes wrong decisions based on their emotions?
No... but teenagers make worse decisions. How much have you matured in 10 years? I'll say it again. 10 years is a long time. Given that that's how those characters would have reacted 10 years ago it seems irrational that they'd have the same reaction at their adjusted ages. And especially in the teenage years. I doubt 15 year old Rob would act similarly to 16 year old Rob.
And in a setting like Westeros, I would say that making a rash emotionally based decision would be enough to get you killed.
a Daenerys who had 26 years to sit and listen to her brother plan to sell her to the Dothraki would have told him to fuck off.
You are aware that in real life 26 year olds DO get sold for marriage even in current world, let alone in paternal rule of middle ages. In many cases the women does not even consider telling him to fuck off as an option. and neither did daenerys back then - she was a child, even if she was in a adult body.
You are aware that not all women are Daenerys Targaryen. And I really have no idea how she'd react if she'd spent 13 extra years putting up with her brother's shit. She could have been abused and broken down to the point she had no will of her own. Then I doubt Kal Drogo would have even wanted her. He could have a younger more spirited slave for much cheaper. She could have gone mad with bottled up rage towards her brother, snapped and killed him. Robert Baratheon might have just had her killed in that time. She might have been psychologically scarred so that she would be the exact same nervous 13 year old for the rest of her life, but I doubt getting raped a couple of times would have set her on the kind of power-trip she needed to decide to walk into a flaming funeral pier holding Dragon eggs.
Hell, Robert Baratheon could have died, Joffery could have been found out as a bastard and killed Stannis could have had a heart attack and an entirely new line of kings could have started and given the two remaining Targaryens a full pardon.
13 years is a LONG TIME!
Her actions make sense for a 13 year old. In the book (I'm assuming) She's an extremely well written character. As an adult, not so much.
A 25 year old Rob Stark went to kings landing, and apologized for his fathers brashness in hopes of getting his sisters back.
So if i were to murder your father for beign the only one non-corrupt in the council, kidnap your sisters, you would come and apologize to me?
If you were the king.
And the thing you actually killed my father for was treason. Like, threatening your claim to the throne by calling you a bastard.
Then yes. I would pledge fealty to you and beg you to let my sisters return home.
I feel like that course of action would be the most likely to get my sisters back.
If I was 15 I would probably want to chop your head off. So I'd gather 20,000 northerners, throw caution to the wind, and attack the bulk of the royal army.
Because by that point he would have enough experience to understand his father's weakness for doing the "Right" thing.
and thats why he deserved to be beheaded in a humiliating way? really?
Well, you don't call the king a bastard unless you're able to defend your self.
That's staging a coup 101.
Even for all the incest that went on Joffery was still beset the throne, and the king doesn't need a reason to chop your head off, the last thing you want to do is give him one. (Especially not a spoiled prick like Joffery)
Did he deserve it? Well I personally don't like the character, the only thing he did right was sire Aria and Jon. He definitely set his own self up for the pike. I think Joffery was acting rationally when he had him beheaded.
