Charlie Kirk Assassinated

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Decided to make a thread about this because A) I have an article to contribute, and B) it's a major ongoing story, so it feels right to give it its own thread and save the "funny events" threads for more one-off stories.

Anyways, people always suggest the possibility of a politician getting assassinated backfiring, in the sense of their supporters making them a martyr for their cause. Well...Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously is about as martyred as you can get without bringing religion into it.

 

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Decided to make a thread about this because A) I have an article to contribute, and B) it's a major ongoing story, so it feels right to give it its own thread and save the "funny events" threads for more one-off stories.

Anyways, people always suggest the possibility of a politician getting assassinated backfiring, in the sense of their supporters making them a martyr for their cause. Well...Presidential Medal of Freedom posthumously is about as martyred as you can get without bringing religion into it.

This is exactly why I will never cry for Trump, nor his cronies. Especially ones that advocate for genocide on a daily basis. This 'award' is nothing more than a big, fat joke.

 
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It's been a full day. A day of Tippy reflecting on how people have pointed out that Charlie Kirk was a human being. A man with a family with loved ones who was gunned down mercilessly just for having different opinions. Made me really reconsider my stance on celebrating that he died...



Turns out it's still hilarious. Rest in Piss you piece of shit.
 

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I enjoy the coincidence that it was right as he was bringing up Gang Violence specifically.
Gun violence doesn't discriminate, and it wasn't a gang that shot him anyway.

America and Republicans brought this on themselves so they have no right to complain. This is exactly what they wanted. They're only crying, because once again, they're the one's getting their asses kicked. If there had been anybody else or somebody they didn't like, then Charlie Kirk would have been celebrating or making the same excuses all over again.
 

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They still haven't identified the shooter, and that could've been planted for all we know to throw off suspicion. I am not playing know it all detective, but I am not hearing anything else, until the full story and investigation is actually done.

In his Oval Office address on Wednesday, Donald Trump sought to blame the “radical left” for Charlie Kirk’s killing while the shooter’s identity and motivations remained unclear. Trump promised an unspecified crackdown that could also target “organizations” that he claimed contributed to political violence.

Trump’s speech underscored an aggressive effort to pin the attack on the left while ignoring his own role in fomenting politically motivated violence.


On Thursday morning, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing an internal document and one source close to the investigation, that the ammunition inside what federal law enforcement believes is the weapon used in the shooting was engraved with “expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology”. But law enforcement officials have not identified a suspect in the shooting, nor have they made any statements about a potential motive.


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Sitting behind the Resolute desk on Wednesday, Trump nonetheless said: “Those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world’s worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we’re seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now.

“It’s long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year, in the most hateful and despicable way possible,” Trump added.

That runs contrary to the bulk of the president’s rhetoric over the past several years. On the campaign trail, Trump said that it was impossible to get along with political rivals.

“These are horrible people. Oops, we should get along with everybody. They’re horrible people. Some people you just can’t get along with,” he said in the final days of the 2024 presidential campaign.

Trump has used dehumanizing rhetoric against immigrants and frequently accuses his political rivals of crimes, including Barack Obama, whom he accused of “treason” in July.

“Coming together is what we ought to be doing. Not pointing fingers of blame,” Chuck Schumer, the top Democrat in the US Senate, said on Thursday.

“This moment requires leadership that brings the American people together as opposed to trying to further divide us,” said Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader in the US House. “Political violence in any form against any American is unacceptable, [and] should be denounced by everyone.”

During the 2016 campaign, Trump encouraged violence against protesters at his rallies. “I’d like to punch him in the face,” Trump said at a 2016 rally in Las Vegas. “You know what they used to do to a guy like that in a place like this?” he went on. “They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks.”

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Again framing political violence as something caused by the left, Trump’s list omitted examples in which Democrats were targeted with political violence. He did not mention the Democratic Minnesota lawmakers shot earlier this summer, one of whom was killed. Trump also did not mention an arson attack on the Pennsylvania governor’s mansion, currently occupied by the Democrat Josh Shapiro, and a recent shooting in which a police officer was killed at the headquarters for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

In his remarks on Wednesday calling for an end to charged rhetoric, Trump also glossed over how Kirk’s speech was often incendiary. “Charlie Kirk traveled the nation, joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good-faith debate,” the president said. “On campuses nationwide, he championed his ideas with courage, logic, humor and grace.” He didn’t mention how Kirk had called for people he disagreed with to be deported, called Martin Luther King Jr “awful”, endorsed the racist great replacement theory that immigrants will replace white Americans, and decried empathy. “I can’t stand the word ‘empathy’, actually. I think empathy is a made-up new age term that does a lot of damage,” Kirk said in 2022. He also recently tweeted, “Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America,” and said last year that “Democrats “stand for everything God hates”.

In his Oval Office address, Trump said: “My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials and everyone else who brings order to our country.”

There’s no evidence yet that anyone was involved in Kirk’s murder beyond the shooter, but Trump’s comments show an eagerness to clamp down on civil society groups. Trump has also attacked judges who have ruled against him, prompting them to face a wave of threats and harassment. Trump also issued a blanket pardons to those involved in the attack on the US Capitol on 6 January 2021, including those who attacked police officers.

Trump went on to list a series of examples in which Republicans were targeted with political violence. “From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania, last year, which killed a husband and father, to the attacks on Ice agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive in the streets of New York, to the shooting of House majority leader Steve Scalise and three others, radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives,” he said. There is no evidence that Trump’s would-be assassin in Butler had political motivations.
 

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Not only is the WSJ the only primary source for the information (other sites reporting it cite the WSJ article as a source), the FBI has denied this. Or rather, declined to comment.

 

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In all the talk about celebrating Kirk's death, I guarantee you there's another group celebrating his death. The right wing influence community all the way up to the white house, they popped champagne over his corpse since they can use it to their advantage.
 

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In all the talk about celebrating Kirk's death, I guarantee you there's another group celebrating his death. The right wing influence community all the way up to the white house, they popped champagne over his corpse since they can use it to their advantage.
That is the ultimate truth! As we've seen, Trump already started.

I hope those crying about the celebration, go after the Republicans too. Otherwise they look all the more foolish and hypocritical for it. Feel free to apply that clown makeup for those doing this, and crying for a nazi sympathizer.
 

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In all the talk about celebrating Kirk's death, I guarantee you there's another group celebrating his death. The right wing influence community all the way up to the white house, they popped champagne over his corpse since they can use it to their advantage.
We literally know nothing about the culprit and the right wing grifters are already creaming their jeans over blaming "extreme leftists" (including The President of The United States) and whatnot (even though disenchanted Rightys are the ones that keep taking shots at Trump)
 

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What's the proper reaction here?

"Thoughts and prayers"?

"It's too early to talk about the problem of gun violence in America"?

"Let's not politicise this tragedy"?

Tough.
 
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In all the talk about celebrating Kirk's death, I guarantee you there's another group celebrating his death. The right wing influence community all the way up to the white house, they popped champagne over his corpse since they can use it to their advantage.
Uhh... Kirk being alive is far more advantageous.