Check Out Batman v Superman's First Teaser Trailer

[Ranorak]

Not thrilled. Not even MoS was that dark and angsty, and I'm not a fan of dark and angsty to begin with. Also I think that line about "Do you bleed?" is kinda dumb.

I thought it was a good line. The central theme of this trailer, and most likely of the film itself, is that Superman is arguably a false god. Testing "gods" to see if they bleed is a popular and effective theme throughout the history of film and literature.

(Unfortunately, the two examples that readily come to mind for me are 300 and Iron Man 2, which aren't exactly the pinnacles of cinema, but hopefully you get my drift.)

But Superman already got his ass kicked by Zod, and came out hurt. The fact that everyone suddenly acts like he's a threat better be explained in a believable manner in the movie.

Remember, this isn't a superman that's been around for a while, he JUST revealed himself to the world. And the first thing he did was fight against his own people to defend earth.

 

[F-I-D-O]

I laughed my way through that trailer.
The ending line (specifically the delivery on "You will") was so damn cheesy, and completely anticlimactic. And while it's easier to understand this Batman than Nolan's, the super gruff voice is just old.
The opening I found interesting, but boring. Again, bad dialogue held back any impact the quotes had on me.
"We now know demons don't come from hell - they come from the sky" followed by Superman descending with a bright light haloing around him. I didn't think anything could be less subtle than the Mankind Divided "Embrace who I am" followed by Neon angel wings, but DC pulled it off. The beginning seemed like a good setup for an Injustice movie, but Injustice had a plethora of characters ripped straight from the comics, a supporting series, and started with a battle that would end most films. I don't see Batman v. Superman doing anything close to that.
I appreciate the acknowledgment of what happened to Metropolis, but they already built a damn statue for him, kind of hurting that point.
Overall, the trailer didn't get me any more interested, as I'm still annoyed at Man of Steel for a plethora of characterization, writing, and motivational problems. I liked the first two thirds and thought they handled Supes well, and then the final fight happened. DC's largely unchanged cinematic managers now trying to handle even larger themes doesn't interest me, it worries me. I might end up seeing it as a comedy, but they have to do something else to get me interested.

The Ant-Man trailer, which I started watching with similar hesitations, managed to get me on board with the characters in 2 minutes, set up an interesting fight and power structure, and got me excited. BvS just left me laughing at the characters and dialogue, and considering it had an entire movie to come from (whereas Ant-Man has to overcome the character's relative obscurity), it just left me with one less movie to see next year.

 

[Vivi22]

6. Decimated would be a better word to describe Metropolis. Doesn't change the fact that significant damage was done and could have been avoided had Superman just thrown his own space pod into the Metropolis world engine, putting Lois and the military pilots out of danger altogether.

Decimated would be a great word to describe Metropolis...

If you don't care what the definition of decimated actually is anyway.

 

[Vivi22]

But Superman already got his ass kicked by Zod, and came out hurt. The fact that everyone suddenly acts like he's a threat better be explained in a believable manner in the movie.

Remember, this isn't a superman that's been around for a while, he JUST revealed himself to the world. And the first thing he did was fight against his own people to defend earth.

Why would Zod having been able to hurt Superman mean he's not seen as a threat? What was left of his entire race came to Earth with the sole intent of killing every human there and terraforming it, and even after most of them were beaten by their own technology, Zod and Superman alone proved to be nigh unstoppable and did a fair amount of damage in the process of trying to kill each other with their bare hands. The fact that this is a Superman who did JUST reveal himself makes it more likely people won't trust him given what happened, not that they will trust him.

 

[circularlogic88]

6. Decimated would be a better word to describe Metropolis. Doesn't change the fact that significant damage was done and could have been avoided had Superman just thrown his own space pod into the Metropolis world engine, putting Lois and the military pilots out of danger altogether.

Decimated would be a great word to describe Metropolis...

If you don't care what the definition of decimated actually is anyway.

Decimate: to reduce by 10%

In othere words, not annihilate: to destroy utterly; obliterate, which is the myth's claim.

Have anything else to be pedantic over?

 

[irishda]

THEORY: I don't think Batman says the "Do you bleed?" line. His mouth is uncovered by his exo-suit, and even with a modulator, his mouth isn't moving during that stand off. I think it's more likely that that's Lex Luthor instead.

 

[marioandsonic]

I laughed my way through that trailer.
The ending line (specifically the delivery on "You will") was so damn cheesy, and completely anticlimactic. And while it's easier to understand this Batman than Nolan's, the super gruff voice is just old.
The opening I found interesting, but boring. Again, bad dialogue held back any impact the quotes had on me.
"We now know demons don't come from hell - they come from the sky" followed by Superman descending with a bright light haloing around him. I didn't think anything could be less subtle than the Mankind Divided "Embrace who I am" followed by Neon angel wings, but DC pulled it off. The beginning seemed like a good setup for an Injustice movie, but Injustice had a plethora of characters ripped straight from the comics, a supporting series, and started with a battle that would end most films. I don't see Batman v. Superman doing anything close to that.
I appreciate the acknowledgment of what happened to Metropolis, but they already built a damn statue for him, kind of hurting that point.
Overall, the trailer didn't get me any more interested, as I'm still annoyed at Man of Steel for a plethora of characterization, writing, and motivational problems. I liked the first two thirds and thought they handled Supes well, and then the final fight happened. DC's largely unchanged cinematic managers now trying to handle even larger themes doesn't interest me, it worries me. I might end up seeing it as a comedy, but they have to do something else to get me interested.

The Ant-Man trailer, which I started watching with similar hesitations, managed to get me on board with the characters in 2 minutes, set up an interesting fight and power structure, and got me excited. BvS just left me laughing at the characters and dialogue, and considering it had an entire movie to come from (whereas Ant-Man has to overcome the character's relative obscurity), it just left me with one less movie to see next year.

Pretty much all of this. I'm still probably going to see the movie, but I'm not really thrilled to right now.

Also, ENOUGH WITH THE GRIZZLED MACHO WHISPER VOICE. Just have Batman speak normally, you fucks.

 

[V4Viewtiful]

See, it wasn't bad. I like Batman, his suits his size, his voice modulator. I don't mind the idea of Superman's existence gaining worship or some kind of following, it's to be expected.

But for me the biggest problem is the inclusion of the superbatsuit. It's dumb.
Not the way it looks mind, I love it. But the sheer logic of why it's in this film could be dumb as f*ck. I know this movie is inspired by TDKR but it loses a lot of context, in the Comic Superman was weakened by a nuke and took it easy on Bats, and Bats had help from other heroes and Kryptonite.
But here? Maybe those scenes are later in the film but going By MOS Batman wouldn't stand a minute, Superman was able to fly in the path of a machine that could terraform a planet (with no damage or look of exhaustion) and i'm supposed believe Batman stands a chance?

F*ck you.

 

[Rad Party God]

No. Just... no.

I had zero expectations about this film before watching the trailer and now I really don't want to see it, it's like DC dialed up the "stupid-o-meter" to 10 and it's intentionally trying to be "dark" and "edgy" to contrast Marvel being dumb, but you know... actually having fun with it. I'll pass.

 

[IOwnTheSpire]

No. Just... no.

I had zero expectations about this film before watching the trailer and now I really don't want to see it, it's like DC is intentionally trying to be "dark" and "edgy" to contrast Marvel... well... actually having fun. I'll pass.

Of course they want to be separate from Marvel. Just because Marvel's formula works doesn't mean everyone else should copy them. DC's universe has barely gotten to its feet yet you guys keep smacking it down before its had a chance to rise. There are many different ways to do comic book movies and DC's approach is just as valid as any other.

 

[Rad Party God]

Of course they want to be separate from Marvel. Just because Marvel's formula works doesn't mean everyone else should copy them. DC's universe has barely gotten to its feet yet you guys keep smacking it down before its had a chance to rise. There are many different ways to do comic book movies and DC's approach is just as valid as any other.

If that's your thing, good for you!, as for me, I won't be watching this.

And I'm not saying that "DC has to be like Marvel!", of course not, but the way they're making movies right now, I just don't like it. I'm as big a fan of DC stuff as anyone else, heck, I even like DC a lot more than Marvel!, but I don't like where this is going and I won't support them for that.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Not thrilled. Not even MoS was that dark and angsty, and I'm not a fan of dark and angsty to begin with. Also I think that line about "Do you bleed?" is kinda dumb.

I thought it was a good line. The central theme of this trailer, and most likely of the film itself, is that Superman is arguably a false god. Testing "gods" to see if they bleed is a popular and effective theme throughout the history of film and literature.

(Unfortunately, the two examples that readily come to mind for me are 300 and Iron Man 2, which aren't exactly the pinnacles of cinema, but hopefully you get my drift.)

Perhaps, but if that's the theme they're going for then perhaps they could've gone for a variation of that line that wouldn't have made Batman sound like Kratos from God of War.

 

[008Zulu_v1legacy]

At least it wasn't one of those crappy "teaser for an upcoming trailer" trailers.

Batman's glowie blue eyes really clashes with the D&G look of the movie.

 

[Bat Vader]

Seems like they may be and hopefully heavily borrowing from The Dark Knight Returns. That's what I hope they do for most of the film.

 

[mrverbal]

No. Just... no.

I had zero expectations about this film before watching the trailer and now I really don't want to see it, it's like DC is intentionally trying to be "dark" and "edgy" to contrast Marvel... well... actually having fun. I'll pass.

Of course they want to be separate from Marvel. Just because Marvel's formula works doesn't mean everyone else should copy them. DC's universe has barely gotten to its feet yet you guys keep smacking it down before its had a chance to rise. There are many different ways to do comic book movies and DC's approach is just as valid as any other.

DC's approach? Giving the franchise to a complete hack who (a) has never made a good film, and (b) has public stated that he hates the character of superman? How is that a good strategy? They've publicly announced they don't like fun.

Yes, there are many ways to do superheroes, and no, Marvel's excitedly almost over the top fanboyism isn't the only way. But it is vastly popular so you'd think you'd at least consider it. Plus it isn't like we're saying a bit of grimdark can't work; begins and TDK are both excellent films, but they were made by someone who *clearly* respects those who have gone before. Snyder loathes the positivity and heroism of superman, a character popular for his positive heroism.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

I won't say that I'm 'beyond caring' or any such nonsense because I do care about Superman, and most of the other characters who are being awkwardly inserted into this film. I just can't find any enthusiasm for this movie because everything I've seen of it and my lasting impression from Man of Steel was that nearly no one involved had any themselves.

 

[Vausch]

A superhuman hero that represents hope and serves as a role model for many and a rich genius human using technology and near limitless wealth at his disposal. Their friendship and past teamwork put to the test as their clashing ideologies cause both of them to come to blows as both believe themselves to be right, and many may suffer consequences of their actions.

But enough about Captain America 3.

This isn't going to go well. Batman and Superman STARTING as enemies is not the way to go about this. I'm happy there's actual colour in this instead of that desaturated grey filter that covered Man of Steel, but otherwise it looks like they've gone Red Son/Injustice with this, making Superman out to be an unintentional dictatorial figure while Batman stops him. There's not character development for them now. It's just them meeting and fighting. No history together, no reason for Superman to feel he can't hurt his old friend, Batman's just showing up and fighting him. This is going to be the worst of Frank Miller's Batman put to screen.

Seems like they may be and hopefully heavily borrowing from The Dark Knight Returns. That's what I hope they do for most of the film.

Pure opinion from me, but let me just say The Dark Knight Returns sucks.

It's very well written, well structured, and when Batman is being Batman it works. But when Superman gets involved, it sucks. Frank Miller hates Superman with a passion and this comic is the thing people always turn to so they can say "See, Batman always beats Superman!" ignoring the other 11 times they've fought and Batman got his arse handed to him or had to find a way out in time to not get killed. I don't buy for a minute that Superman would become a government pawn nor do I believe he would become the god-figure he's being depicted as here. He was raised as a farmboy his whole life, he was taught humility and to always do the right thing, and his father's death in the comics (seriously, MoS? The fuck?) showed that with all his power he still couldn't save his father from something as common as a heart attack. Superman is, ironically, one of the most human superheroes in the DCU.

 

[Lightknight]

No. Just... no.

I had zero expectations about this film before watching the trailer and now I really don't want to see it, it's like DC is intentionally trying to be "dark" and "edgy" to contrast Marvel... well... actually having fun. I'll pass.

Of course they want to be separate from Marvel. Just because Marvel's formula works doesn't mean everyone else should copy them. DC's universe has barely gotten to its feet yet you guys keep smacking it down before its had a chance to rise. There are many different ways to do comic book movies and DC's approach is just as valid as any other.

DC's approach? Giving the franchise to a complete hack who (a) has never made a good film, and (b) has public stated that he hates the character of superman? How is that a good strategy? They've publicly announced they don't like fun.

The character of Superman is to be despised if you're a story writer of any kind. He's a paragon, above reproach and almost entirely uninteresting because of it. Too powerful with too few weaknesses save the McGuffin that is kryptonite. He does inspire our imaginations as flawed people but the stories they depict are all the harder for maintaining it.

I wish they'd just done a true adaptation of The Dark Knight Rises and just written in the Superman confrontation as a bigger scene.

Oh well, some day.

 

[hermes]

I am not going to lie. I will go see this movie. I like the genre and Superman and Batman are the biggest heavy hitters of it. If Marvel makes me care for movies about B-list and C-list characters, I can't say I care about the genre and deny that I will see what is (on paper) the biggest comic adaptation in a long time.

But I do have a lot of problems with the trailer and the idea of the movie so far. To put it simply, Superman is not a brooding and tormented character. He is an aspiration, he is the epitome on potential and boyhood power fantasy. He is supposed to make us look up to him and try to be better, not look down and pity him for his lost planet and his constant restraint and hiding. In the previous movie, his father urges him to let a bus full of kids die so that no one sees him (WTF was that?)...

Unfortunately, it seems WB and Snyder are incapable of creating dramatic characterization without gloom. I forgave some of the misleads of the previous movie because they were meant to show a young Superman, who still struggles with his powers and how to present himself to the world. Fine, be like that, sell it like an character arc. He starts as a seclusive hobo but in the end he is the Superman we all know and love... Except it leads nowhere; since now it seems like he grew up to be even worst.

Even his suit is closer to black than any bright colors. I can't hardly wait for the appearance of the other characters in the Justice League: Feldgrau Green Lantern and the Maroon Flash. They already revealed the black and grey Aquaman and the brown Wonder Woman...

 

[IOwnTheSpire]

I am not going to lie. I will go see this movie. I like the genre and Superman and Batman are the biggest heavy hitters of it. If Marvel makes me care for movies about B-list and C-list characters, I can't say I care about the genre and deny that I will see what is (on paper) the biggest comic adaptation in a long time.

But I do have a lot of problems with the trailer and the idea of the movie so far. To put it simply, Superman is not a brooding and tormented character. He is an aspiration, he is the epitome on potential and boyhood power fantasy. He is supposed to make us look up to him and try to be better, not look down and pity him for his lost planet and his constant restraint and hiding. In the previous movie, his father urges him to let a bus full of kids die so that no one sees him (WTF was that?)...

Unfortunately, it seems WB and Snyder are incapable of creating dramatic characterization without gloom. I forgave some of the misleads of the previous movie because they were meant to show a young Superman, who still struggles with his powers and how to present himself to the world. Fine, be like that, sell it like an character arc. He starts as a seclusive hobo but in the end he is the Superman we all know and love... Except it leads nowhere; since now it seems like he grew up to be even worst.

Even his suit is closer to black than any bright colors. I can't hardly wait for the appearance of the other characters in the Justice League: Feldgrau Green Lantern and the Maroon Flash. They already revealed the black and grey Aquaman and the brown Wonder Woman...

How is Superman even worse? You think he wants those people to worship him? I'm willing to bet he doesn't like being seen as a god. The reason Superman is brooding is because he's an alien who (at first) didn't know who he was or what he should do with his life. People who feel lost and alone (as an alien probably would on Earth) aren't supposed to be bright and cheerful. It's made clear he will become a pinnacle of good, but he's not going to get there overnight.

Also, Jonathan DID NOT urge him to let those kids die, and I'm sick of people who keep saying that. When he said maybe, he was saying he doesn't have all the answers; he questioned whether the consequences of Clark revealing himself would be worth it, and given how people are reacting to him in BvS, his concerns had merit.

The costumes appear dark due to the lighting; the photos of WW and Aquaman had colour filters on them, if you look closely, WW's costume is red and blue, and some people have altered the Aquaman photo to get an idea of what his colours will be. One thing is for sure is that the outfits DO have colour.