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Children are creatures that I'm sure many of you are quite familiar with. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that you were all a child at one point in your lives, whether you remember that time or not. Something that was mentioned to me a while back has really gotten me thinking about children, and why people grieve more for their deaths than they do for adults (30-50 years old, for the sake of argument).

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I'm sure you really like kids. Right?

Sometime ago, I was watching a movie with a friend. It was mentioned to me that it was their hope that a child in the movie wouldn't die. When I questioned this, the answer I was given was this: "It's sadder to see a child die than an adult".

I didn't really understand this logic, especially when it comes to children under 6 years of age. Before that age, the brain is no where near developed enough to even be fully aware of your life. I know I for one can't even remember the time when I was that young.. At that age, you aren't aware of all that much. Only basic thoughts really cross your mind.

The way I see it, you wouldn't be losing all that much if you were to die. You wouldn't have experienced true hapiness at that stage in your life. An adult on the other hand, has most likely felt true hapiness before. You would actually have something taken away from you if you die an adult. As a child, you would never have experienced something like that, so you can not have it taken away.

The only conclusion I can come to is the potential that the child has. As someone who follows sports, I can safely say that potential is something that rarely works out properly, and is more often than not something that is wasted. The child could actually end up having a really poor life, or become a burden to society. In that case, a death may not look so bad.

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The child could end up like this guy.

My question The Escapist community is: Why is a child's death grieved more than an adult's?

Don't interpret this as a hatred on children, as I generally like them. I'm just curious.
 

Verex

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Because they're not expected to die. It's more sad if someone still has their whole life to live, then say, an 90 year old person.
 

Gilhelmi

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Logically, a child's death is no more important, or less, than an adults death. However, emotionally it is sadder because we see the lost potential or the what could have been.
 

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Verex said:
Because they're not expected to die. It's more sad if someone still has their whole life to live, then say, an 90 year old person.
But what about someone in their 30s-50s? They still have quite a bit to live for, but are grieved for far less than a child who hasn't done any good for the world.
 

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Because Evolution dictates it. We need the young to survive and reproduce. e.g. Your Camp is on Fire and before you ask no there is no time to check for traps. You grab a) the baby or b) the old man. The baby to secure your genes continuation. That is a very straight forward theory and one I don't care to elaborate on as Im sure no one will disagree.
 

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Gilhelmi said:
Logically, a child's death is no more important, or less, than an adults death. However, emotionally it is sadder because we see the lost potential or the what could have been.
Also, we're genetically programmed to respond to children by going "oh, what a widdle baby, you're so cute!" and do everything we can to protect them. Seeing them murdered shocks us right down to our genes.
 

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They haven't lived a full life yet to enjoy things like Doughnuts! You just shouldn't be allowed to die until you've enjoyed Doughnuts.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and all the other parts of a long enjoying life. But Doughnuts are the main thing.
 

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I'm indifferent, they died oh well their loss. It is one of societies many flaws to take preference over who would die.
 

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iHux said:
Because Evolution dictates it. We need the young to survive and reproduce. e.g. Your Camp is on Fire and before you ask no there is no time to check for traps. You grab a) the baby or b) the old man. The baby to secure your genes continuation. That is a very straight forward theory and one I don't care to elaborate on as Im sure no one will disagree.
I'm not really talking someone who is far past his prime, like a 85 year old man. I'm talking more about someone who is 30-50, who still has quite a bit to live for.
 

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I think it's because it seems so unfair -- they had (potentially) a whole life in front of them. Also, I think there's a perception that they're less culpable for the circumstances surrounding their deaths. If an adult runs into traffic, they should've known better. If a kid does, it's an unmitigated tragedy.
 

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Children have evolved a cuteness that ensures that the parents wont leave them to die in the woods. That is why people grieve a childs death more than an adults. they cant defend themselves.
 

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Don't kill me for saying this, but I think the media plays a role. We hear of adults being killed far more than kids being killed, so we become more desensitized to the death of an adult that the death of a child, which is more of a shock.

Also, children are seen as defenceless. Its sadder if they can't do anything to help themselves.
 

IzisviAziria

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The only reason you can possibly create this thread is because you don't have children. Don't mistake my meaning, I'm not trying to be judgmental or even tell you that you're a bad person. At one point in my life I think I had similar thoughts.

In January of 2009, my daughter was born. She was born completely healthy, beautiful as could be. But if there were a hypothetical situation, where I had to kill everyone in that hospital to save her life, you can bet your ass that I'd be sitting in a prison cell for a life term for massacring an entire hospital. There is zero logic in that. Just love.

Love, smart or dumb, logical or illogical, rational or irrational, is what makes us human.
 

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Potential. Though I would enjoy a movie where children die. Just the shock. It happened in a zombie movie. Maybe it could happen in Batman 3. Just to show the Joker is one fucked up guy.
 

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The child doesn't piss me off so much as most adults and I can program him to be an excellent stooge.
 

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I find it sadder when an older person(non baby) dies because they had a personality, so you actually have something to miss. As opposed to a baby that acts like ever other baby in the world. I lost a friend who was 21 and I think that I will miss him more than any baby.
 

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marter said:
the potential that the child has.
This and the potential for more children to be born, each with their own potential for greatness. A child will grow up and have roughly 30 years to procreate while a 60 year old cannot, so the younger the individual, the more likely they will create more life.

This also assumes that humans are purely rational beings which, as far as I'm aware, is a silly statement to make.
 

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dbungus2000 said:
I find it sadder when an older person(non baby) dies because they had a personality, so you actually have something to miss. As opposed to a baby that acts like ever other baby in the world. I lost a friend who was 21 and I think that I will miss him more than any baby.
You'd be surprised how soon a baby develops a personality.