Child Safety Bill Could Cripple Anime Industry

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RUINER ACTUAL said:
Fuck child safety. The last thing this world should be concerned with is the safety of its children. Especially in regards towards what they see in the media. That's the parents problem.
THANK YOU!!!

Seriously, I am so sick and tired of the powers that be thinking it's their responsibility to protect children from questionable material, when in reality, the parents need to get off their fucking asses and monitor what their children watch and play for a fucking change. Why does the government feel it needs to butt in to this kind of stuff?

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WTF?! Goddammit censorship... Ah well lets see how many ways the anime industry finds around this. I'm guessing there's a few

Also don't you think "cripple" is a bit strong a term? They'll find a way around it, its hardly gonna destroy anime and manga forever
More likely it'll be stomped flat by public outcry and cash changing hands. A bill that potentially bans most Miyazaki movies, Dragonball, One Piece, Evangelion, and Keroro Gunso, among many OTHER series that not just nerds, but much of the Japanese public devours makes this roughly the same as if the American government tried to ban Star Wars. Shit just isn't going to work.
If they ban Miyazaki movies, I will make myself catch on fire, Human Torch style, and destory one hell of a lot of shit.

And I severely hope you are right about this not working.
 

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I honestly don't think this is that bad. I've been to Japan, and it's true that you can walk into almost ANY convenience store and find disturbing porn. Both in manga, and photograph form. I can enjoy porn if it depicts two people being intimate and having normal sex, but the depictions of women in both anime and video doing so much disgusting shit is really offensive. I'm sure Japan would be a better society if they didn't have so much material with women being dominated and horribly sexualized in their anime and manga.

For Example, (This is quite a sexually explicit example, be warned)

When I was in Japan, I was horny one night and borrowed a porn video from a Japanese friend titled - "Dream Shower." I figured - "Ok, this is probably about some people in the shower having sex, right?" But I was horribly wrong... In the video, there were a bunch of different scenes, all scenes featured one naked Japanese woman and about 10 or 12 naked Japanese guys. The guys would chase the woman all over the house, until they finally caught her, and then one would do her on the floor while the other 10+ guys were jerking off all over her body and she would be totally cum-soaked. get it? "Dream Shower." It didn't end there either, then there were two girls they made eat different things, vegetables and stuff, out of each others' assholes for a half hour (I forwarded the video of course, didn't wanna watch that shit for a half hour)!

I don't know how much they pay Japanese women to do porn, but it must be a lot because that video had some of the worst things I've ever in my life. It puts American S&M porn to shame. I've also seen things equally as bad, or stupider, in Manga and Anime. All of the weird tentacle sex scenes are just stupid as hell. Japanese guys should respect their woman more, it's no wonder the women don't wanna marry those guys and their population is declining terribly.
It would be better to ban all porn like that in Japan.
 

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This wins my vote for "most shocking news of the week". If you told me someone was trying to brand non-pornographic anime as pornography and made me guess where, I'd probably name every country in the world before I finally guessed Japan. I mean, that's like if America banned........... OK, what are we known for in other countries besides being fat?
John Wayne and James Cagney.
 

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I honestly don't think this is that bad. I've been to Japan, and it's true that you can walk into almost ANY convenience store and find disturbing porn. Both in manga, and photograph form. I can enjoy porn if it depicts two people being intimate and having normal sex, but the depictions of women in both anime and video doing so much disgusting shit is really offensive. I'm sure Japan would be a better society if they didn't have so much material with women being dominated and horribly sexualized in their anime and manga.

For Example, (This is quite a sexually explicit example, be warned)

When I was in Japan, I was horny one night and borrowed a porn video from a Japanese friend titled - "Dream Shower." I figured - "Ok, this is probably about some people in the shower having sex, right?" But I was horribly wrong... In the video, there were a bunch of different scenes, all scenes featured one naked Japanese woman and about 10 or 12 naked Japanese guys. The guys would chase the woman all over the house, until they finally caught her, and then one would do her on the floor while the other 10+ guys were jerking off all over her body and she would be totally cum-soaked. get it? "Dream Shower." It didn't end there either, then there were two girls they made eat different things, vegetables and stuff, out of each others' assholes for a half hour (I forwarded the video of course, didn't wanna watch that shit for a half hour)!

I don't know how much they pay Japanese women to do porn, but it must be a lot because that video had some of the worst things I've ever in my life. It puts American S&M porn to shame. I've also seen things equally as bad, or stupider, in Manga and Anime. All of the weird tentacle sex scenes are just stupid as hell. Japanese guys should respect their woman more, it's no wonder the women don't wanna marry those guys and their population is declining terribly.
It would be better to ban all porn like that in Japan.
You very obviously didn't read about the actual bill or the guy proposing it. Go do so before talking about asian porn.
 

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....i really don't have much of a problem with this?

*shrugs*

the anti-homosexuality was the only thing to make me think "that's a little close-minded" but that's 'cause i live in Massachusetts.
 

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NOOOOOOOOOO! Negima! isn't finished yet! This bill would kill it dead! Waaaaaaahhhh! Bad bad bad idea. Gutting the industry is an understatement.
 

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EDITED DUE TO ME MISREADING PLEASE DISREGARD ANYTHING THAT WAS SAID IN A QUOTE
O.T. now that I have better understanding (a little slow in the head needed clarifications)I feel that censorship is bad and feel this guy is acting like every other political asshole we see and he's homophobic so really he's on my list of people to hate
 

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I've seen this already in another thread, but this explanation now is making me somewhat more worried. My thoughts - the only hope that the media giants in Tokyo will have now is if they up sticks and move to other cities in Japan to continue producing this kind of content. While I'm all for the regulation of actual adult content, this sort of vagueness is posing a massive threat to the industry in general, but also to Japan's economy (they make a hell of a lot of money from anime and manga and the like, after all, as well as the profits they get from exports to other countries like the UK and USA...). And besides, a lot of non-adult stuff might end up affected by association, which they haven't thought of. For example, the anime of Fate/stay Night doesn't have any of the sex scenes or anything like that, that were in the original games the series was based on. Yet because the games do have such scenes in them (not even anything really bad or explicit, either), they could be reclassified, and by association the relatively safe-for-work anime could potentially be affected and reclassified too, causing more problems further down the line.

In short: The lawmakers in Japan really need to consider the massive harm they're doing to their own culture, and their own economy, before making a decision. If that fails to sway them, then the producers of most anime and such will have to move to other cities, otherwise they won't easily survive. It's a shame, but sadly, that's just how it is...
 

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Wow, this is horrible. Even more so because Japan doesn't have the love of free speech that the US has. They're a much more conservative country (and that's saying something).

Although I guess that unless similar things sprout up elsewhere in the country manga makers will just move to Osaka as the newspost implied. Tokyo will just be kissing goodbye to taxes on one of its worldwide industries.

Here's hoping it comes to nothing though. I know nothing of how Japanese politics go so I can only hope.
Isn't the US going through a similar thing though? Through games anyway...

I agree with Shinji though that this bill is going to get in the way of artistic freedom, and while Japan has created some dark content over this last century, they've always had the freedom to do so.

I still don't think this will pass. There is probably a score of sexual content on television for children to access, as well as the internet.
 

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I'm getting tired of the Government trying to do parents' jobs for them.

Parents need to start taking responsibility, and stop blaming the media, tv, video games, etc. for their failures.
 

cabalistics

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Won't someone please think of the children



I wonder who decides what's bad and what's not, probably some over-reactionary prudes
 

Tirak

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Seriously, I asked this in the other thread, what does this mean for a potential 3rd season of Strike Witches?

Oh, and also, this legislation is too broad, too reaching. The material that is pornography is already classified as such and this leaves all anime and manga open to being restricted for anything that anyone thinks might possible be sexual.
 

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...Governments outlawing Anime?

Golly! This is swell! When are the rest of the nations of the world gonna adopt this policy?
 

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Thats disppointing. It's sad to see art be censored to children, who mind you, are probably better off learning about sexuality as a child, so they can know that how they feel as a teenager is perfectly natural, and will probably be more mature about it. I mean think about it: catholic priests (only the ones who have known to molest children, then again, you can probably insert any religion that requires chastity in it's ranks) tend to molest children because they are kept away from sexual imagery. It's not the work of bealzebub, its human biology.
 

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When Germany fell to the Nazi's there was a brain drain of artists who created "degenerate" art or who were Jewish to the United States.

I hear Hawaii is lovely this time of year.
 

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FredTheUndead said:
ResiEvalJohn said:
I honestly don't think this is that bad. I've been to Japan, and it's true that you can walk into almost ANY convenience store and find disturbing porn. Both in manga, and photograph form. I can enjoy porn if it depicts two people being intimate and having normal sex, but the depictions of women in both anime and video doing so much disgusting shit is really offensive. I'm sure Japan would be a better society if they didn't have so much material with women being dominated and horribly sexualized in their anime and manga.

For Example, (This is quite a sexually explicit example, be warned)

When I was in Japan, I was horny one night and borrowed a porn video from a Japanese friend titled - "Dream Shower." I figured - "Ok, this is probably about some people in the shower having sex, right?" But I was horribly wrong... In the video, there were a bunch of different scenes, all scenes featured one naked Japanese woman and about 10 or 12 naked Japanese guys. The guys would chase the woman all over the house, until they finally caught her, and then one would do her on the floor while the other 10+ guys were jerking off all over her body and she would be totally cum-soaked. get it? "Dream Shower." It didn't end there either, then there were two girls they made eat different things, vegetables and stuff, out of each others' assholes for a half hour (I forwarded the video of course, didn't wanna watch that shit for a half hour)!

I don't know how much they pay Japanese women to do porn, but it must be a lot because that video had some of the worst things I've ever in my life. It puts American S&M porn to shame. I've also seen things equally as bad, or stupider, in Manga and Anime. All of the weird tentacle sex scenes are just stupid as hell. Japanese guys should respect their woman more, it's no wonder the women don't wanna marry those guys and their population is declining terribly.
It would be better to ban all porn like that in Japan.
You very obviously didn't read about the actual bill or the guy proposing it. Go do so before talking about asian porn.
You obviously don't understand my point Dr.Smarty pants. My point, which I said at the beginning is this - "This kind of Porn is Accessible to EVERYONE IN JAPAN at almost ANY CONVENIENCE STORE! CHILDREN AND ADULTS ALIKE!!" Do you think this is healthy for a society? Or when Manga and Anime depict girls of questionable age doing bizarre sexual things? NO, and that's why I'm for this bill. And I did read the article, so mind your own F-ing business.
 

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Trivun said:
For example, the anime of Fate/stay Night doesn't have any of the sex scenes or anything like that, that were in the original games the series was based on. Yet because the games do have such scenes in them (not even anything really bad or explicit, either), they could be reclassified, and by association the relatively safe-for-work anime could potentially be affected and reclassified too, causing more problems further down the line.
I would call the part where Sakura and Shirou fuck like animals for three nights in a row, or Rin and Shirou going to down on Saber fairly explicit.